Re: Different weird update by apt-get and aptitude

2013-11-07 Thread Bob Proulx
Sven Joachim wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > So then to preserve the upstart configuration would you recommend > > marking it as 'hold' so that apt-get won't consider the action in the > > future? I think this is needed. > > > > apt-mark hold upstart > > > > I tested that in a VM and it seemed to

Re: Different weird update by apt-get and aptitude

2013-11-07 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2013-11-07 18:33 +0100, Bob Proulx wrote: > Sven Joachim wrote: >> >> Here the difference is that "apt-get dist-upgrade" insists on pulling in >> any removed essential packages, while "aptitude full-upgrade" leaves >> those alone. Both approaches have their disadvantages, although I >> consid

Re: Different weird update by apt-get and aptitude

2013-11-07 Thread Bob Proulx
Sven Joachim wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Florian Lindner wrote: > >> root@xxx:~# aptitude full-upgrade > >> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. > >> but apt-get > >> root@xxx:~# apt-get dist-upgrade > >> The following packages will be REMOVED: > >> upstart > >> The following N

Re: Different weird update by apt-get and aptitude

2013-11-07 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2013-11-07 17:38 +0100, Bob Proulx wrote: > Florian Lindner wrote: >> root@xxx:~# aptitude full-upgrade >> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. >> but apt-get >> root@xxx:~# apt-get dist-upgrade >> The following packages will be REMOVED: >> upstart >> The following NEW package

Re: Different weird update by apt-get and aptitude

2013-11-07 Thread Bob Proulx
Florian Lindner wrote: > I have a virtual server with a minimal debian wheezy image provided by the > hoster. Wheezy. Gotcha. > Right after setup of the image: > > root@xxx:~# aptitude full-upgrade > ... > root@xxx:~# apt-get dist-upgrade > ... You don't show it. Did you update first? Pleas

Different weird update by apt-get and aptitude

2013-11-07 Thread Florian Lindner
Hello, I have a virtual server with a minimal debian wheezy image provided by the hoster. Right after setup of the image: root@xxx:~# aptitude full-upgrade No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0