Re: Dialup Help!

2000-07-13 Thread John Hasler
Bob Bernstein writes: > Help me understand why the absence of a shell login process on these > machines constrains them from using a simple exchange of username and > password. It doesn't. You can use username/password authentication to connect to a machine on which you can not get a shell. It's

Re: Dialup Help!

2000-07-13 Thread Bob McGowan
The PAP protocol for user authentication sends the user name and password, just as you would use if using a login. But the authentication process is handled by the PAP protocol implementation on the host rather than by a login implementation. I think there may have been confusion with the PAP pro

Re: Dialup Help!

2000-07-13 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 02:35:32PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Nils asked about connecting some machines that serve Windows dialup clients > from Linux: i.e., what kind of weird authentication are they likely to use? > Joey answered that they most likely just use PAP. Turns out he was right. Hel

Re: Dialup Help!

2000-07-13 Thread John Hasler
Bob Bernstein writes: > Did I misunderstand the question? Nils asked about connecting some machines that serve Windows dialup clients from Linux: i.e., what kind of weird authentication are they likely to use? Joey answered that they most likely just use PAP. Turns out he was right. -- John Hasl

Re: Dialup Help!

2000-07-13 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 11:22:51AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > Joey, typo, yes? (And yeah, it's just ppp.) > > PPP with PAP authentication. Did I misunderstand the question? Dialup Networking in Windows is not restricted to PAP. -- Bob Bernstein at http://www.ruptur

Re: Dialup Help!

2000-07-13 Thread John Hasler
Bob Bernstein writes: > Joey, typo, yes? (And yeah, it's just ppp.) PPP with PAP authentication. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: Dialup Help!

2000-07-13 Thread John Hasler
Nils Lohner writes: > Searching through the packages didn't show anything that could emulate > the windoze dialup procedures... or is the dialup networking just PPP > negotiation? Probably. Just run pppconfig and see what happens. Email me if you need help. What are these machines running? --

Re: Dialup Help!

2000-07-13 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Thu, Jul 13, 2000 at 06:33:47AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > It's probably just PAP but I've never actually had to try it. ^^^ Joey, typo, yes? (And yeah, it's just ppp.) -- Bob Bernstein at http://www.ruptured-duck.com Esmond

Re: Dialup Help!

2000-07-13 Thread Joey Hess
Nils Lohner wrote: > I need to set up a Debian box (potato) to connect to to some machines that > are set up to receive the 'Dialup Networking' connection from Windoze, and > there's no shell access so you basically need the protocol as far as I can > tell. Is there any way to set this up to al

Dialup Help!

2000-07-13 Thread Nils Lohner
I need to set up a Debian box (potato) to connect to to some machines that are set up to receive the 'Dialup Networking' connection from Windoze, and there's no shell access so you basically need the protocol as far as I can tell. Is there any way to set this up to allow Debian boxes to connec