Re: Debian support on newer 4K Advanced format drives (rather than 512 bytes)

2010-07-08 Thread Jean-François
I have a WD20EARS here. As these drives still report their sector size to be 512B instead of 4KB (for compatibility purposes, apparently), you have to manually align the partition when creating it. (otherwise you'll get very slow performance, ~3.5 MB/s instead of the ~90MB/s this drive can do)

Re: Debian support on newer 4K Advanced format drives (rather than 512 bytes)

2010-07-04 Thread Mark Allums
On 7/4/2010 10:30 AM, lee wrote: On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 02:31:15PM +1000, CaT wrote: I wont be buying more of these if I can avoid it. I'd rather a 4k drive that says it's a 4k drive and get on with life. Well, I wonder what the manufacturers thinking behind lieing about the sector size is.

Re: Debian support on newer 4K Advanced format drives (rather than 512 bytes)

2010-07-04 Thread thib
lee wrote: Well, I wonder what the manufacturers thinking behind lieing about the sector size is. [...] XP, AFAIK. -t -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.

Re: Debian support on newer 4K Advanced format drives (rather than 512 bytes)

2010-07-04 Thread lee
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 02:31:15PM +1000, CaT wrote: > > I wont be buying more of these if I can avoid it. I'd rather a 4k drive > that says it's a 4k drive and get on with life. Well, I wonder what the manufacturers thinking behind lieing about the sector size is. It only leads to problems --- e

Re: Debian support on newer 4K Advanced format drives (rather than 512 bytes)

2010-07-04 Thread Ron Johnson
On 07/03/2010 03:09 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Ron Johnson put forth on 7/3/2010 2:36 PM: This is unrelated. FS block size != sector size. It is when you use a 4KB drive Not according to man on Stable: mkfs.xfs [ -b block_size ] ... [ -s sector_size ] [ -L label ] [ -N ] device -b blo

Re: Debian support on newer 4K Advanced format drives (rather than 512 bytes)

2010-07-03 Thread CaT
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 05:31:22PM -0400, Mike Viau wrote: > Hello List, > > I was just wondering what some of the debian community users has been > experiencing in regards to the new Western Digital 4K Advanced format > drives? Has any one tried using one of these drives on the 2.6.26 > (64/32 bi

RE: Debian support on newer 4K Advanced format drives (rather than 512 bytes)

2010-07-03 Thread Mike Viau
On the link http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-4kb-sector-disks/index.html [snip] Tip: If you want to dual-boot between Linux and an older operating system that requires cylinder alignment, try aligning the starts of all your partitions on multiples of eight cylinders. This tran

FW: Debian support on newer 4K Advanced format drives (rather than 512 bytes)

2010-07-03 Thread Mike Viau
On the link http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-4kb-sector-disks/index.html [snip] Tip: If you want to dual-boot between Linux and an older operating system that requires cylinder alignment, try aligning the starts of all your partitions on multiples of eight cylinders. This tra

Re: Debian support on newer 4K Advanced format drives (rather than 512 bytes)

2010-07-03 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Ron Johnson put forth on 7/3/2010 2:36 PM: >> This is unrelated. FS block size != sector size. > > It is when you use a 4KB drive Not according to man on Stable: mkfs.xfs [ -b block_size ] ... [ -s sector_size ] [ -L label ] [ -N ] device -b block_size_options This option specifies

Re: Debian support on newer 4K Advanced format drives (rather than 512 bytes)

2010-07-03 Thread Ron Johnson
On 07/03/2010 02:20 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Ron Johnson put forth on 7/3/2010 12:01 PM: I think that the partitioning tool (fdisk, cfdisk, parted, ...) is what is really important. It is. The first partition must be created on an even 4k sector aligned boundary to avoid the performance hit o

Re: Debian support on newer 4K Advanced format drives (rather than 512 bytes)

2010-07-03 Thread Ron Johnson
On 07/03/2010 01:40 PM, Mike Viau wrote: > On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 12:01:40 -0500 wrote: > > I think that the partitioning tool (fdisk, cfdisk, parted, ...) is > what is really important. That is because filesystems already use > 4KB block sizes. > > Possibly also fsck. > > There was a recen

Re: Debian support on newer 4K Advanced format drives (rather than 512 bytes)

2010-07-03 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Ron Johnson put forth on 7/3/2010 12:01 PM: > I think that the partitioning tool (fdisk, cfdisk, parted, ...) is what > is really important. It is. The first partition must be created on an even 4k sector aligned boundary to avoid the performance hit of unaligned access. However, from all I've

Re: Debian support on newer 4K Advanced format drives (rather than 512 bytes)

2010-07-03 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 14:31, Mike Viau wrote: > Hello List, > > I was just wondering what some of the debian community users has been > experiencing in regards to the new Western Digital 4K Advanced format > drives? Has any one tried using one of these drives on the 2.6.26 (64/32 > bit) kernel sh

RE: Debian support on newer 4K Advanced format drives (rather than 512 bytes)

2010-07-03 Thread Mike Viau
> On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 12:01:40 -0500 wrote: > > I think that the partitioning tool (fdisk, cfdisk, parted, ...) is > what is really important. That is because filesystems already use > 4KB block sizes. > > Possibly also fsck. > > There was a recent IBM DeveloperWorks article on this very top

Re: Debian support on newer 4K Advanced format drives (rather than 512 bytes)

2010-07-03 Thread Ron Johnson
From: vi...@sheridanc.on.ca To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Debian support on newer 4K Advanced format drives (rather than 512 bytes) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 17:31:22 -0400 Hello List, I was just wondering what some of the debian community

RE: Debian support on newer 4K Advanced format drives (rather than 512 bytes)

2010-07-03 Thread Mike Viau
: vi...@sheridanc.on.ca To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Debian support on newer 4K Advanced format drives (rather than 512 bytes) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 17:31:22 -0400 Hello List, I was just wondering what some of the debian community users has been experiencing in regards to

Debian support on newer 4K Advanced format drives (rather than 512 bytes)

2010-07-02 Thread Mike Viau
Hello List, I was just wondering what some of the debian community users has been experiencing in regards to the new Western Digital 4K Advanced format drives? Has any one tried using one of these drives on the 2.6.26 (64/32 bit) kernel shipped with Lenny stable? How about with the 2.6.32