Re: Chaniging focus: security ouitside a password manager (was: Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations)

2018-04-03 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 Apr 2018 at 09:07:16 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Just continuing to think (or maybe not think ;-) about password managers / > password security, changing the focus slightly (I think) but keeping the same > thread. > > I'm now thinking about the security (or vulnurability) of p

Re: Chaniging focus: security ouitside a password manager

2018-04-03 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 4/3/18, Richard Hector wrote: > On 03/04/18 01:07, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >> the plaintext passwords would >> disappear from RAM (except to the extent that (iiuc) there are (NSA) ways >> to >> recover the contents of RAM if power is restored to the machine fairly >> quickly). > > I'm not sur

Re: Chaniging focus: security ouitside a password manager

2018-04-03 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, April 03, 2018 01:50:45 AM Richard Hector wrote: > On 03/04/18 01:07, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > the plaintext passwords would > > disappear from RAM (except to the extent that (iiuc) there are (NSA) ways > > to recover the contents of RAM if power is restored to the machine > > fair

Re: Chaniging focus: security ouitside a password manager (was: Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations)

2018-04-03 Thread Brian
On Mon 02 Apr 2018 at 09:07:16 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Just continuing to think (or maybe not think ;-) about password managers / > password security, changing the focus slightly (I think) but keeping the same > thread. > > I'm now thinking about the security (or vulnurability) of p

Re: Chaniging focus: security ouitside a password manager

2018-04-02 Thread Richard Hector
On 03/04/18 01:07, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > the plaintext passwords would > disappear from RAM (except to the extent that (iiuc) there are (NSA) ways to > recover the contents of RAM if power is restored to the machine fairly > quickly). I'm not sure you actually need to be the NSA for that.

Re: Chaniging focus: security ouitside a password manager (was: Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations)

2018-04-02 Thread der.hans
Am 02. Apr, 2018 schwätzte rhkra...@gmail.com so: moin moin, Just continuing to think (or maybe not think ;-) about password managers / password security, changing the focus slightly (I think) but keeping the same thread. I'm now thinking about the security (or vulnurability) of passwords duri

Re: Chaniging focus: security ouitside a password manager

2018-04-02 Thread Ben Finney
rhkra...@gmail.com writes: >* during copy and paste operations, the plaintext password could > remain on the C&P "stack". thus making it vulnurable: Some notes: > > (1) I've read about at least one password manager that, somehow, > deletes the plaintext password from the copy and paste "

Re: Chaniging focus: security ouitside a password manager (was: Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations)

2018-04-02 Thread rhkramer
Thanks to tomas, Roberto, and likcoras! All good points! I'm embarrassed to admit that I hadn't thought (at least to the best of my recent recollection) of the need to encrypt swap--that's something I'll want to deal with soon. On Monday, April 02, 2018 09:15:08 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > O

Re: Chaniging focus: security ouitside a password manager

2018-04-02 Thread likcoras
On 04/02/2018 10:07 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >* during copy and paste operations, the plaintext password could remain on > the C&P "stack". thus making it vulnurable: Some notes: This is a semi-valid concern, depends on your usage patterns. For example, some browsers may expose a JS API

Re: Chaniging focus: security ouitside a password manager (was: Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations)

2018-04-02 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Apr 02, 2018 at 09:07:16AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > The first two situations that come to mind include: > >* during copy and paste operations, the plaintext password could remain on > the C&P "stack". thus making it vulnurable: Some notes: > > (1) I've read about

Re: Chaniging focus: security ouitside a password manager (was: Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations)

2018-04-02 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 02, 2018 at 09:07:16AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Just continuing to think (or maybe not think ;-) about password managers / [...] I don't know of the others (I never felt the need for a PW manager myself) but... >* during

Chaniging focus: security ouitside a password manager (was: Re: Password Manager opinions and recommendations)

2018-04-02 Thread rhkramer
Just continuing to think (or maybe not think ;-) about password managers / password security, changing the focus slightly (I think) but keeping the same thread. I'm now thinking about the security (or vulnurability) of passwords during "normal" usage--I mean, I'm thinking about the times when