Re: CUPS dependencies

2006-09-09 Thread Chris
On Wednesday 02 August 2006 11:01, Roger Leigh wrote: > Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 05:58:22PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > >> I must be among the lucky or blessed (take your pick). Since I > >> switched to CUPS and Gutenprint a couple of years back my printi

Re: CUPS dependencies

2006-08-07 Thread Johan Kullstam
Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [CUPS] > > I am still a bit disturbed by the "web interface" and punching in my > > root password at my browser (even if it was just local). > > Just add yourself to the "lpadmin" group and use your own user

Re: CUPS dependencies

2006-08-07 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 09:39:02AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [CUPS] > > I am still a bit disturbed by the "web interface" and punching in my > > root password at my browser (even if it was just local). > > Just add yourself to the "lpadmin" group a

Re: CUPS dependencies

2006-08-07 Thread Roger Leigh
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [CUPS] > I am still a bit disturbed by the "web interface" and punching in my > root password at my browser (even if it was just local). Just add yourself to the "lpadmin" group and use your own username and password. > I am already running a firewall.

Re: CUPS dependencies

2006-08-06 Thread Ken Irving
On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 08:42:13PM -0400, Johan Kullstam wrote: > I am still a bit disturbed by the "web interface" and punching in my > root password at my browser (even if it was just local). ... I don't think you need to be root, though I'm not sure how it's configured -- maybe by the cups gr

Re: CUPS dependencies

2006-08-06 Thread Russell L. Harris
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jan Willem Stumpel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am still a bit disturbed by the "web interface" and punching in my > root password at my browser (even if it was just local). Check the CUPS manual. The CUPS web administrative interface is not as com

Re: CUPS dependencies

2006-08-06 Thread Carl Fink
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 10:43:33PM +0200, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > In the first place, you must have USB printer support enabled in > your kernel. I have this in my hand-rolled kernel. With stock > kernels there may be some module that you have to specify in > /etc/modules. This may cure you

Re: CUPS dependencies

2006-08-06 Thread Johan Kullstam
Jan Willem Stumpel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have been using lpr (later lprng) without any problems, since 1995, > using many different kinds of printers (whether connected to my own > Linux box, or shared through a 'home network' with Windows PC's). I hear you. I was thinking the same thi

Re: CUPS dependencies

2006-08-03 Thread Carl Fink
On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 10:13:16AM +0200, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Just guessing: > Did you check the print queue? On our cups installation sometimes people > print to printers that are currently switched off. Those jobs have to be > manually deleted from the print queue, before the printer

Re: CUPS dependencies

2006-08-03 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Carl Fink wrote: Again, I can print to the 1012 fine, except that CUPS sometimes dies and refuses to restart, and I have to purge and reinstall it. USB printer support is there and works and it's fine. Just guessing: Did you check the print queue? On our cups installation sometimes people pri

Re: CUPS dependencies

2006-08-02 Thread Carl Fink
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 10:43:33PM +0200, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > A "bog-standard Laserjet" is, IMHO, a printing machine that is > connected through a parallel port and which speaks PCL. The 1012 > is neither, as far as I could find out (USB, and speaking some > restricted dialect of PCL on

Re: CUPS dependencies

2006-08-02 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Carl Fink wrote: > Silly me, believing the docs! So, can you give me tips on > setting up LPRng with hplip for a Laserjet 1012. Clearly the > documentation can't. Documentation is one of the well-known weaknesses of Linux, but that is another story. A "bog-standard Laserjet" is, IMHO, a pri

Re: CUPS dependencies

2006-08-02 Thread Carl Fink
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 05:14:17PM +0200, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > Carl Fink wrote: > > > I thought I mentioned that in another message to this list. > > Because lprng explicitly doesn't support USB printers. I tried > > that. > > Sorry, which message (I'm not subscribed)? My printer nowadays

Re: CUPS dependencies

2006-08-02 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Carl Fink wrote: > I thought I mentioned that in another message to this list. > Because lprng explicitly doesn't support USB printers. I tried > that. Sorry, which message (I'm not subscribed)? My printer nowadays is a USB one and it works fine with lprng. Regards, Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: CUPS dependencies

2006-08-02 Thread Carl Fink
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 03:06:22PM +0200, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > Carl Fink wrote: > > > I've filed a bug, no response so far from the maintainer. > > According to that bug report, you have a bog-standard LaserJet. So > why not install lprng and magicfilter? ... I thought I mentioned that i

Re: CUPS dependencies

2006-08-02 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
John Hasler wrote: RLH writes: The problems we now are experiencing with CUPS appear to be a consequence of the transition to Etch. I haven't noticed any change in the level of complaints about CUPS. It seems to me that they have been pretty much constant since it was introduced. It appears

Re: CUPS dependencies

2006-08-02 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
Carl Fink wrote: > I've filed a bug, no response so far from the maintainer. According to that bug report, you have a bog-standard LaserJet. So why not install lprng and magicfilter? First remove as many CUPS-related packages as the system will let you (most probably it will not let you remov

Re: CUPS dependencies

2006-08-02 Thread Adrian Midgley
Russell L. Harris wrote: > No application or utility can survive lack of maintenance, because every > application and every utility is but part of a larger system to which > changes constantly are being made. So eventually you shall have no > choice but to abandon lprng, unless you find a way to m

Re: CUPS dependencies

2006-08-02 Thread Roger Leigh
Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 05:58:22PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > >> I must be among the lucky or blessed (take your pick). Since I >> switched to CUPS and Gutenprint a couple of years back my printing >> qulaity has never been higher (the combination blows

Re: CUPS dependencies

2006-08-01 Thread Carl Fink
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 05:58:22PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > I must be among the lucky or blessed (take your pick). Since I > switched to CUPS and Gutenprint a couple of years back my printing > qulaity has never been higher (the combination blows away the quality > of Windows XP drivers for

Re: CUPS dependencies

2006-08-01 Thread Nate Bargmann
* John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006 Aug 01 14:41 -0500]: > RLH writes: > > The problems we now are experiencing with CUPS appear to be a consequence > > of the transition to Etch. > > I haven't noticed any change in the level of complaints about CUPS. It > seems to me that they have been pret

Re: CUPS dependencies

2006-08-01 Thread Russell L. Harris
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > RLH writes: >> The problems we now are experiencing with CUPS appear to be a consequence >> of the transition to Etch. > > I haven't noticed any change in the level of complaints about CUPS. It > seems to me that they have been pretty much constant since

Re: CUPS dependencies

2006-08-01 Thread John Hasler
RLH writes: > The problems we now are experiencing with CUPS appear to be a consequence > of the transition to Etch. I haven't noticed any change in the level of complaints about CUPS. It seems to me that they have been pretty much constant since it was introduced. It appears to be one of the to

Re: CUPS dependencies

2006-08-01 Thread Russell L. Harris
Jan Willem Stumpel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have been using lpr (later lprng) without any problems, since 1995, ... > Does anyone have > an explanation of this seeming "creeping CUPS imperialism"? "Creeping CUPS imperialism"? There is no "creeping"; Debian and other Linux systems have swit

Re: CUPS dependencies

2006-08-01 Thread John Hasler
Jan writes: > Does anyone have an explanation of this seeming "creeping CUPS > imperialism"? I neither need nor want CUPS either. It appears to me that what is going on here is that in order to be able to use CUPS these packages must include the CUPS libraries, even if they can print by other mea

CUPS dependencies

2006-08-01 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
I have been using lpr (later lprng) without any problems, since 1995, using many different kinds of printers (whether connected to my own Linux box, or shared through a 'home network' with Windows PC's). However, more and more Debian packages seem intent to force me to use CUPS. I don't need