"Dotan Cohen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 2008/7/2 John Devereux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Wine seems to be getting pretty good now, so perhaps you can find
>> something meant for windows.
>>
>
> And when you do, whether or not it works in wine, make sure that you
> write to the developer and let
2008/7/2 John Devereux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Wine seems to be getting pretty good now, so perhaps you can find
> something meant for windows.
>
And when you do, whether or not it works in wine, make sure that you
write to the developer and let them know that you want to use their
program in Linux
Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello,
>
> I am using "electic" and "geda" but those programs are crap and you can
> not design real PCBs for it. Even my 18 years old MS-DOS software works
> better.
>
> So, my requirements are:
>
> 1) PCB-Layouts up to Extended ATX and 18x11"
> 2
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 03:38:51AM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2008-06-27 23:46:47, schrieb Dotan Cohen:
> > Unless I missed it in this very long thread, Michelle, you have not
> > yet said the name of this Windows software. Let us know the name of
> > the company and the software.
>
> Sin
Am 2008-06-27 23:46:47, schrieb Dotan Cohen:
> Unless I missed it in this very long thread, Michelle, you have not
> yet said the name of this Windows software. Let us know the name of
> the company and the software.
Since I have droped Windows in March 1999 I do not more remember its
name but
On Wednesday 25 June 2008, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2008-06-23 22:31:12, schrieb David Goodenough:
> > Have you looked a gEDA? Its available on Debian.
>
> Yes, but it is NOT intuitive as programs I have used in
> Enterprises. It is nearly imposible to make bigger projects
> with SIMPEL
2008/6/25 Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I have worked with Windows software for 300 Euro which do this.
>
Unless I missed it in this very long thread, Michelle, you have not
yet said the name of this Windows software. Let us know the name of
the company and the software.
Dotan Cohen
h
Am 2008-06-23 22:31:12, schrieb David Goodenough:
> Have you looked a gEDA? Its available on Debian.
Yes, but it is NOT intuitive as programs I have used in Enterprises.
It is nearly imposible to make bigger projects with SIMPEL CPUs like
ARM or MIPS.
I am NOT talking abouth a PCB for a
Am 2008-06-23 23:31:11, schrieb Dotan Cohen:
> I'd just like to pipe up that should AutoCAD or Solidworks go belly up
> and stop supporting the software, my own problems regarding the
> software will be trivial compared to the industry upheaval.
I do not know, HOW many Developers, Engineers and En
Hi Larry,
please can you trimm down the message if you are responding?
Am 2008-06-23 13:07:24, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> Michelle
> I have run several hardware/software shops and for me the only rational
> arguement for source code is "what will I as a user do if the company goes
> "belly up"
Am 2008-06-23 13:30:54, schrieb Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso:
> Money is not the issue. You keep alluding about how I want everything
> gratis; this was never my claim. Source could very well be distributed
> with money and you know that many companies do this now, just as many
> other companies always
Hi DC,
Am 2008-06-22 21:31:41, schrieb Dotan Cohen:
> Yes, they require the opening of an account to write to them. I
> suppose that it is similar in that many FOSS mailing lists one must
> subscribe to post: they are weeding out the spammers. End to end it
> took me about five minutes to open the
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:30:52 -0700 (PDT)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hello Larry,
> >
> > Am 2008-06-18 11:35:04, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> >> Michelle
> >> My (no defunct) company went through a similar search as you.
> >> What we found was some very good and very expensive software,
> >> pri
2008/6/24 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 23/06/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 2) I must be interoperable with the other engineers running Solidworks.
>
> Your definition of interoperable seems a little weird. It sounds too
> much like the definition of vendor lo
2008/6/24 Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Solidworks <=2005 runs in codeweavers, but nothing in wine.
>
> Which version? Anything below 1.0.0 underwent (and will in the future
> under the 1.1 tree) development at a significant rate of change.
> Frequently, prior to 1.0, things that didn't wor
On 23/06/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2) I must be interoperable with the other engineers running Solidworks.
Your definition of interoperable seems a little weird. It sounds too
much like the definition of vendor lock-in.
- Jordi G. H.
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On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 01:24 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2008/6/24 Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Is it possible to wine your way out of this one? Forgive me if this has
> > already been brought up; I appear to only have the thread after the
> > subject change.
> >
>
> Solidworks <=2005 run
2008/6/24 Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Is it possible to wine your way out of this one? Forgive me if this has
> already been brought up; I appear to only have the thread after the
> subject change.
>
Solidworks <=2005 runs in codeweavers, but nothing in wine. I need a
later version anyway
On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 01:03 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2008/6/24 Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 21:31 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> >> If anyone has any proprietary Windows apps that they'd like to see
> >> ported to Linux, then mention them and I will write to the devel
2008/6/24 Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 21:31 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> If anyone has any proprietary Windows apps that they'd like to see
>> ported to Linux, then mention them and I will write to the developers
>> as well.
>
> Wouldn't it be a better thing in the lon
On Wednesday 18 June 2008, al davis wrote:
> On Tuesday 17 June 2008, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> > I am using *** but those programs are crap
> > and you can not . Even my 18 years
> > old MS-DOS software works better.
> >
> > So, my requirements are:
> >
> > 1) PCB-Layouts up to
On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 21:31 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> If anyone has any proprietary Windows apps that they'd like to see
> ported to Linux, then mention them and I will write to the developers
> as well.
Wouldn't it be a better thing in the long term to encourage vendors to
take a far more user-
2008/6/23 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Michelle
> I have run several hardware/software shops and for me the only rational
> arguement for source code is "what will I as a user do if the company goes
> "belly up" or stops supporting the product. The only pragmatic solution
> that I was able to work out
> Am 2008-06-21 09:22:17, schrieb Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso:
>> I think this is rather nearsighted. Although for what I do,
>> mathematics, it's easier to argue for openness of the software (a
>> mathematical proof must be available and the method disclosed,
>
> Sorry, but I habv my own Enterprise, w
> Am 2008-06-21 09:22:17, schrieb Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso:
>> I think this is rather nearsighted. Although for what I do,
>> mathematics, it's easier to argue for openness of the software (a
>> mathematical proof must be available and the method disclosed,
>
> Sorry, but I habv my own Enterprise, w
2008/6/23 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 21/06/2008, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> [a long point-by-point reponse to something I wrote]
>
> Michelle, I'm not sure how worthwhile it will be to repeat to you
> arguments that I'm sure you have heard endless times
On 21/06/2008, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> [a long point-by-point reponse to something I wrote]
Michelle, I'm not sure how worthwhile it will be to repeat to you
arguments that I'm sure you have heard endless times before. I could
repeat those arguments, but I doubt you would be
Am 2008-06-21 18:39:19, schrieb Michal R. Hoffmann:
> Michelle,
>
> I may be talking rubbish, but I remembered there was a PCB layout design
> tool called Eagle; it was German but I think it had also English
> interface. It worked both in MS Windows and in Linux environment. Not
> sure if this
Am 2008-06-21 10:50:32, schrieb Dotan Cohen:
> 2008/6/21 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On 20/06/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Motivate the people that you know to let the software houses know that
> >> we want their software.
> >
> > And we want it with free
Am 2008-06-20 23:57:27, schrieb Dotan Cohen:
> I was speaking in the general sense. Even if the company in question
> cannot produce a 'today' solution, Michelle and others will benefit
> from a 'next version' solution. The narrow-view of "it won't be now so
> why bother" is exactly the reason that
Am 2008-06-21 09:22:17, schrieb Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso:
> I think this is rather nearsighted. Although for what I do,
> mathematics, it's easier to argue for openness of the software (a
> mathematical proof must be available and the method disclosed,
Sorry, but I habv my own Enterprise, working a
2008/6/22 JW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> If you're willing to pay thousands of dollars, why don't you find a n existing
> FOSS program that's as close as possible to what you need, and pay someone -
> rent-a-coder, if all else fails - to make the program do what you want?
>
Because that would take tens
On Saturday 21 June 2008 02:50:32 am Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2008/6/21 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On 20/06/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Motivate the people that you know to let the software houses know that
> >> we want their software.
> >
> > And we want i
2008/6/22 Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Writing to them at the address you provided means creating an account.
> I think they already have made up their minds insofar as price/benefits of a
> Linux port.
>
Yes, they require the opening of an account to write to them. I
suppose that it is
Dotan Cohen wrote:
2008/6/22 Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Proprietary binary formats.
Which makes your whole proposition very dicey. As a practical matter,
trying to implement not publicly documented formats leads to a "chasing
of the taillights" scenario where every time the FOSS develo
2008/6/22 Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Proprietary binary formats.
>
> Which makes your whole proposition very dicey. As a practical matter,
> trying to implement not publicly documented formats leads to a "chasing
> of the taillights" scenario where every time the FOSS developers get
> c
* Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Jun 22 01:45 -0500]:
> 2008/6/22 Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > * Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Jun 21 10:05 -0500]:
> >
> >> When someone develops and maintains a FOSS solution that runs on Linux
> >> that lets me interoperate with my Solidwo
2008/6/22 Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> * Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Jun 21 10:05 -0500]:
>
>> When someone develops and maintains a FOSS solution that runs on Linux
>> that lets me interoperate with my Solidworks-using colleagues
>> flawlessly I will happily donate to the project
* Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008 Jun 21 10:05 -0500]:
> When someone develops and maintains a FOSS solution that runs on Linux
> that lets me interoperate with my Solidworks-using colleagues
> flawlessly I will happily donate to the project twice what I would be
> paying to Solid. That's a
Michelle,
I may be talking rubbish, but I remembered there was a PCB layout design
tool called Eagle; it was German but I think it had also English
interface. It worked both in MS Windows and in Linux environment. Not
sure if this is what you need. I googled their webpage out:
http://www.cads
Hi Al Davis.
Am 2008-06-18 18:22:48, schrieb al davis:
> Sorry if I sound overbearing here .. I am working on a project
> (very close to geda) which is now "half working" and realize
> how little things like this impact progress on a project.
For PCB-Layout? If posible let me know about it.
Am 2008-06-20 10:56:21, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> Michelle
> Yes I assume your reference to PCBs was Printed Circuit Boards (yes?). If
> so I have another approach, a "hybrid" solution used by many small to
> medium size companies, especially those that don't do PCB layout on a
> regular basis
2008/6/21 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 21/06/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I personally would be satisfied paying thousands of dollars for
>> Solidworks and not having access to the source code so long as it runs
>> on my OS.
>
> I think this is rather near
On 21/06/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I personally would be satisfied paying thousands of dollars for
> Solidworks and not having access to the source code so long as it runs
> on my OS.
I think this is rather nearsighted. Although for what I do,
mathematics, it's easier to ar
2008/6/21 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 20/06/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Motivate the people that you know to let the software houses know that
>> we want their software.
>
> And we want it with freedom.
>
Write to them and tell them that if that is what
On 20/06/2008, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Motivate the people that you know to let the software houses know that
> we want their software.
And we want it with freedom.
- Jordi G. H.
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2008/6/20 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Couldn't agree more. Unfortunately Michelle said that she needed the
> software "now".
> L
>
I was speaking in the general sense. Even if the company in question
cannot produce a 'today' solution, Michelle and others will benefit
from a 'next version' solution. T
> 2008/6/20 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> Did you write to the companies that provide the cheaper, XP-based
>>> solutions and tell them that you are interested in buying their
>>> software, but that you need a native Linux version? If we don't get
>>> off our butts and tell the companies that we exist,
2008/6/20 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Did you write to the companies that provide the cheaper, XP-based
>> solutions and tell them that you are interested in buying their
>> software, but that you need a native Linux version? If we don't get
>> off our butts and tell the companies that we exist, then
> Hello Larry,
>
> Am 2008-06-18 11:35:04, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>> Michelle
>> My (no defunct) company went through a similar search as you. What we
>> found was some very good and very expensive software, primarily ported
>> to
>> Suns, and some reasonably good and reasonably inexpensive so
> 2008/6/18 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> My (no defunct) company went through a similar search as you. What we
>> found was some very good and very expensive software, primarily ported
>> to
>> Suns, and some reasonably good and reasonably inexpensive software,
>> unfortunately ported to XP. Perhaps
> Hello Larry,
>
> Am 2008-06-18 11:35:04, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>> Michelle
>> My (no defunct) company went through a similar search as you. What we
>> found was some very good and very expensive software, primarily ported
>> to
>> Suns, and some reasonably good and reasonably inexpensive so
2008/6/18 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> My (no defunct) company went through a similar search as you. What we
> found was some very good and very expensive software, primarily ported to
> Suns, and some reasonably good and reasonably inexpensive software,
> unfortunately ported to XP. Perhaps others ca
Hello Larry,
Am 2008-06-18 11:35:04, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> Michelle
> My (no defunct) company went through a similar search as you. What we
> found was some very good and very expensive software, primarily ported to
> Suns, and some reasonably good and reasonably inexpensive software,
> un
On Wednesday 18 June 2008, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2008-06-18 13:24:06, schrieb al davis:
> > Yes. Be more respectful of people who are trying to help
> > you.
>
> I have gotten no reponse from Developers and others...
Did you ask?
You have been on this here list long enough to know what ki
> Am 2008-06-18 13:24:06, schrieb al davis:
>> Yes. Be more respectful of people who are trying to help you.
>
> I have gotten no reponse from Developers and others...
>
>> You say "not expensive" indicating your willingness to pay
>> something. How about paying for improvements you want?
>
> I h
Am 2008-06-18 13:24:06, schrieb al davis:
> Yes. Be more respectful of people who are trying to help you.
I have gotten no reponse from Developers and others...
> You say "not expensive" indicating your willingness to pay
> something. How about paying for improvements you want?
I have payed a
On Tuesday 17 June 2008, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> I am using *** but those programs are crap
> and you can not . Even my 18 years
> old MS-DOS software works better.
>
> So, my requirements are:
>
> 1) PCB-Layouts up to Extended ATX and 18x11"
> 2) Only ARM and MIPS CPU's (yeah
Hello,
I am using "electic" and "geda" but those programs are crap and you can
not design real PCBs for it. Even my 18 years old MS-DOS software works
better.
So, my requirements are:
1) PCB-Layouts up to Extended ATX and 18x11"
2) Only ARM and MIPS CPU's (yeah, no i386, sparc powerpc)
3) d
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