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>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: About USB hard drives and errors
>Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:47:40 -0600
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>>On 20100411_115203, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>>> On Sa
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Paul E Condon wrote:
>> My understanding is that S.M.A.R.T. doesn't generally work over USB.
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> So, the fact that my WD drives don't play well with S.M.A.R.T doesn't
> make them special, and I should not spend much, if any, time looking
> for a USB
On 20100412_152156, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Celejar wrote:
> >On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:06:06 -0600
> >Paul E Condon wrote:
> >
> >...
> >
> >>I got a little less timid and tried running smartctl even though I was
> >>quite unsure of what to expect. It ran. Each of the three USB HD gave
> >>somewhat
Celejar wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:06:06 -0600
Paul E Condon wrote:
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I got a little less timid and tried running smartctl even though I was
quite unsure of what to expect. It ran. Each of the three USB HD gave
somewhat different output, but none gave output that claimed there was
a work
Paul E Condon put forth on 4/11/2010 4:40 PM:
> All of the computers are hand-me-downs. None have eSATA capability. So
> far I have not convinced myself that spending money would help solve
> the problem. Perhaps in a few years, computers with eSATA will start
> showing up in dumpsters. Maybe I sh
On 20100411_115203, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sat,10.Apr.10, 16:24:45, Paul E Condon wrote:
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> > The errors that I am experiencing are all similar. The first
> > indication of a problem is a message from the kernel (I think). An
> > example is:
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> > kernel: [78454.939948] journal commit I/O
On 20100411_005025, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> Paul E Condon put forth on 4/10/2010 11:41 PM:
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> > So, the fact that my WD drives don't play well with S.M.A.R.T doesn't
> > make them special, and I should not spend much, if any, time looking
> > for a USB solution. What other options are there for e
On 2010-04-08 19:44, Paul E Condon wrote:
I want to use the low cost high capacity hard drives that are
for sale in places like Best Buy and Costco. I have put ext3 on
several of them and started experimenting. The results so far
are puzzling.
http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/faq.html#tes
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 23:48:51 -0600
Paul E Condon wrote:
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> Your comment was/is helpful to me. Thanks. Please don't drop off this
> thread because I'm sometimes too terse. Following some links from article
No offense taken - I just didn't want you to get your expectations up
of the likelihood
On Sat,10.Apr.10, 16:24:45, Paul E Condon wrote:
> The errors that I am experiencing are all similar. The first
> indication of a problem is a message from the kernel (I think). An
> example is:
>
> kernel: [78454.939948] journal commit I/O error
[...]
> When this happens, all the USB drives
Paul E Condon put forth on 4/10/2010 11:41 PM:
> So, the fact that my WD drives don't play well with S.M.A.R.T doesn't
> make them special, and I should not spend much, if any, time looking
> for a USB solution. What other options are there for external HD?
You're got 3 USB hard drives already,
On 20100411_005504, Celejar wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:41:57 -0600
> Paul E Condon wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > So, the fact that my WD drives don't play well with S.M.A.R.T doesn't
> > make them special, and I should not spend much, if any, time looking
> > for a USB solution. What other options
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:41:57 -0600
Paul E Condon wrote:
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> So, the fact that my WD drives don't play well with S.M.A.R.T doesn't
> make them special, and I should not spend much, if any, time looking
> for a USB solution. What other options are there for external HD?
I'm sorry, I don't real
On 20100411_002510, Celejar wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:06:06 -0600
> Paul E Condon wrote:
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> ...
>
> > I got a little less timid and tried running smartctl even though I was
> > quite unsure of what to expect. It ran. Each of the three USB HD gave
> > somewhat different output, but none ga
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:06:06 -0600
Paul E Condon wrote:
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> I got a little less timid and tried running smartctl even though I was
> quite unsure of what to expect. It ran. Each of the three USB HD gave
> somewhat different output, but none gave output that claimed there was
> a working SMART
On 20100410_162445, Paul E Condon wrote:
> On 20100410_092044, Clive McBarton wrote:
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> > Paul E Condon wrote:>
> > > dumpe2fs -b is supposed to print the bad blocks that have
> > > been marked on a device. When I run it, it prints nothing.
On 20100410_092044, Clive McBarton wrote:
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> Paul E Condon wrote:>
> > dumpe2fs -b is supposed to print the bad blocks that have
> > been marked on a device. When I run it, it prints nothing. I find it
> > hard to believe that a 500GB HD contains
> will be listed as "Pending". Pending sectors are much worse than
> Reallocated sectors, as Pending sectors mean lost data (if the sector
Indeed. OTOH "Pending sectors" can be eliminated by turning them into
Reallocated sectors (just write to the corresponding sector), whereas
Reallocated sec
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Tony Nelson wrote:
> If the data in a sector was not readable, the sector
> will be listed as "Pending". Pending sectors are much worse than
> Reallocated sectors, as Pending sectors mean lost data (if the sector
> was in actual use, which SMART do
On 10-04-10 03:20:44, Clive McBarton wrote:
> Paul E Condon wrote:>
> > dumpe2fs -b is supposed to print the bad blocks that have
> > been marked on a device. When I run it, it prints nothing. I find
> > it hard to believe that a 500GB HD contains ZERO bad blocks.
>
> Every HD that is even remot
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Florian Kulzer wrote:
>> Interesting. So what is /badblocks/ for,
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> I would say it is useful to make the drive access every single block;
> afterwards you can check in the SMART log if that caused any remappings.
That's a good idea.
Another appl
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 08:45:26 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 2010-04-10 02:20, Clive McBarton wrote:
[...]
> >Every HD that is even remotely close to being usable will always have
> >zero bad blocks when seen from outside the HD. All HDs have error
> >recognition and error correction and autom
Ron Johnson wrote:
On 2010-04-10 02:20, Clive McBarton wrote:
Paul E Condon wrote:>
dumpe2fs -b is supposed to print the bad blocks that have
been marked on a device. When I run it, it prints nothing. I find it
hard to believe that a 500GB HD contains ZERO bad blocks.
Every HD that is even
On 2010-04-10 02:20, Clive McBarton wrote:
Paul E Condon wrote:>
dumpe2fs -b is supposed to print the bad blocks that have
been marked on a device. When I run it, it prints nothing. I find it
hard to believe that a 500GB HD contains ZERO bad blocks.
Every HD that is even remotely close to b
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Paul E Condon wrote:>
> dumpe2fs -b is supposed to print the bad blocks that have
> been marked on a device. When I run it, it prints nothing. I find it
> hard to believe that a 500GB HD contains ZERO bad blocks.
Every HD that is even remotely close
On 2010-04-09 11:04, Paul E Condon wrote:
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But ... Why does the output say that the disk was modified
during the run? There were no badblocks found. What needed
modification?
Good question.
Do you have similar magic for dumpe2fs?
Nope.
Of course your output presented here indicates
On 20100409_102442, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 2010-04-08 20:27, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >On 2010-04-08 19:44, Paul E Condon wrote:
> >>I want to use the low cost high capacity hard drives that are
> >>for sale in places like Best Buy and Costco. I have put ext3 on
> >>several of them and started experim
On 2010-04-08 20:27, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 2010-04-08 19:44, Paul E Condon wrote:
I want to use the low cost high capacity hard drives that are
for sale in places like Best Buy and Costco. I have put ext3 on
several of them and started experimenting. The results so far
are puzzling.
I do get err
On Thursday 08 April 2010 04:44:33 pm Paul E Condon wrote:
> I want to use the low cost high capacity hard drives that are
> for sale in places like Best Buy and Costco. I have put ext3 on
> several of them and started experimenting. The results so far
> are puzzling.
>
> I do get errors. So I deci
On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 18:44:33 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> I want to use the low cost high capacity hard drives that are for sale
> in places like Best Buy and Costco. I have put ext3 on several of them
> and started experimenting. The results so far are puzzling.
>
> I do get errors. So I decide
On 2010-04-08 19:44, Paul E Condon wrote:
I want to use the low cost high capacity hard drives that are
for sale in places like Best Buy and Costco. I have put ext3 on
several of them and started experimenting. The results so far
are puzzling.
I do get errors. So I decided to do scans for bad
I want to use the low cost high capacity hard drives that are
for sale in places like Best Buy and Costco. I have put ext3 on
several of them and started experimenting. The results so far
are puzzling.
I do get errors. So I decided to do scans for bad blocks. The drives
I'm using are all Western
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