On Tue 08 May 2018 at 14:32:20 +0100, jpff wrote:
> On Mon, 7 May 2018, Brian wrote:
>
> > On Mon 07 May 2018 at 18:17:07 +0100, jpff wrote:
> >
> > > Things are getting better if not quite right. I have a lean x/fvwm system
> > > installed and I have managed to get an xterm displayed. The maj
On Tue, 8 May 2018 08:33:47 -0400
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, May 08, 2018 at 07:58:54AM -0400, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
> > On 5/8/18, Curt wrote:
> > > I downloaded 'debian-9.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso' and booted it in
> > > kvm and *it does work* as advertised here, so I don't know what
> > >
The next installment
I booted the machine just recently and I am not sure what I did but I
noticed that both the wired and wifi interfaes were up. I took the wired
down
ifconfig enp2s1 down
and it continued to ping my gateway and the bbc. More than that it
allowed be to use aptitude t
AAArgh.
I forgot that Dan is using a selfish bullshit spam-multiplying
system. EOD.
On Tue, May 08, 2018 at 02:53:56PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>Dan wrote:
>>On Mon, 7 May 2018 15:30:54 + (UTC)
>>Curt wrote:
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jpff composed on 2018-05-08 14:32 (UTC+0100):
> Brian wrote:
>> On Mon 07 May 2018 at 18:17:07 +0100, jpff wrote:
>>> 1: The X40 has a three-mbutton trackpoint but while button 1 works, button
>>> 2 has no affect and button 3 does what button 2 should do. Not seen that
>>> before and not sure
Dan wrote:
>On Mon, 7 May 2018 15:30:54 + (UTC)
>Curt wrote:
>>
>> I should have just referred you to the Debian Handbook here:
>>
>> https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.installation-steps.html
>>
>> Each menu entry hides a specific boot command line, which can be
>> configured
Hi,
Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
> Only thing my poor brain can come up with is integrity of the
> downloaded ISO file.
That would be quite a peculiar transport damage.
On the other hand, malicious alteration would probably avoid such obvious
deviations from usual behavior.
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> Th
On Mon, 7 May 2018, Brian wrote:
On Mon 07 May 2018 at 18:17:07 +0100, jpff wrote:
Things are getting better if not quite right. I have a lean x/fvwm system
installed and I have managed to get an xterm displayed. The major issues I
have left outstanding are
If you have fvwm on the system i
On Tue, May 08, 2018 at 07:58:54AM -0400, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
> On 5/8/18, Curt wrote:
> > I downloaded 'debian-9.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso' and booted it in kvm and
> > *it does work* as advertised here, so I don't know what accounts for
> > your difficulty, Dan.
> Ok, that's really weird, then.
On 5/8/18, Curt wrote:
> On 2018-05-07, Dan Norton wrote:
>>>
>>
>> Unfortunately, that does not work. The Boot Screen does not look like
>> "Figure 4.1. Boot screen" and more to the point, tab has no effect. One
>> can move selection up or down, enter to select, E to edit, or C for
>> a GRUB com
On 2018-05-07, Dan Norton wrote:
>>
>
> Unfortunately, that does not work. The Boot Screen does not look like
> "Figure 4.1. Boot screen" and more to the point, tab has no effect. One
> can move selection up or down, enter to select, E to edit, or C for
> a GRUB command line. Boot a Debian 9.4 ne
On Mon 07 May 2018 at 18:37:16 -0400, Dan Norton wrote:
> On Mon, 7 May 2018 23:22:46 +0100
> Brian wrote:
>
> > On Mon 07 May 2018 at 18:04:47 -0400, Dan Norton wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 7 May 2018 10:42:17 -0400
> > > Felix Miata wrote:
> > >
> > > > jpff composed on 2018-05-07 12:34 (UTC+
On Mon, 7 May 2018 23:22:46 +0100
Brian wrote:
> On Mon 07 May 2018 at 18:04:47 -0400, Dan Norton wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 7 May 2018 10:42:17 -0400
> > Felix Miata wrote:
> >
> > > jpff composed on 2018-05-07 12:34 (UTC+0100):
> > >
> > > > Felix Miata wrote:
> > >
> > > >> My Debian
On Mon 07 May 2018 at 18:04:47 -0400, Dan Norton wrote:
> On Mon, 7 May 2018 10:42:17 -0400
> Felix Miata wrote:
>
> > jpff composed on 2018-05-07 12:34 (UTC+0100):
> >
> > > Felix Miata wrote:
> >
> > >> My Debian installations are all net installs that include
> >
> > >> tasks=standard
On Mon, 7 May 2018 10:42:17 -0400
Felix Miata wrote:
> jpff composed on 2018-05-07 12:34 (UTC+0100):
>
> > Felix Miata wrote:
>
> >> My Debian installations are all net installs that include
>
> >>tasks=standard base-installer/install-recommends=false
>
> >> on the kernel cmdline. I
Dan Norton composed on 2018-05-07 17:47 (UTC-0400):
> Felix wrote:
> "My Debian installations are all net installs that include
> tasks=standard base-installer/install-recommends=false
> on the kernel cmdline."
> What's the kernel here? The one for the installer, right? We need to
> pass
Dan Norton composed on 2018-05-07 17:47 (UTC-0400):
> Felix wrote:
> "My Debian installations are all net installs that include
> tasks=standard base-installer/install-recommends=false
> on the kernel cmdline."
> What's the kernel here? The one for the installer, right? We need to
> pass
On Mon, 7 May 2018 15:30:54 + (UTC)
Curt wrote:
> On 2018-05-07, Curt wrote:
> > On 2018-05-07, Dan Norton wrote:
> >>>
> >>> on the kernel cmdline. I get nothing I don't need installed that
> >>> way. Xorg and whatever else I need I get with apt* once booted
> >>> normally.
> >>
> >> H
On 05/07/2018 02:16 PM, Brian wrote:
Answering a question or two might see a dramatic increase in betterness.
I'm stealing that one! Ric
--
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may
On Mon 07 May 2018 at 18:17:07 +0100, jpff wrote:
> Things are getting better if not quite right. I have a lean x/fvwm system
> installed and I have managed to get an xterm displayed. The major issues I
> have left outstanding are
If you have fvwm on the system it was installed after first boot
Things are getting better if not quite right. I have a lean x/fvwm system
installed and I have managed to get an xterm displayed. The major issues
I have left outstanding are
1: The X40 has a three-mbutton trackpoint but while button 1 works,
button 2 has no affect and button 3 does what bu
On Mon 07 May 2018 at 15:46:12 +0100, jpff wrote:
>
> >
> > > And thank you all who pointed me at the non-free installer files. I will
> > > try that later today with luck
> > >
> > >
>
> well, modified rapture1
>
> i booted from the usb stick with the firmware .iso and tried an install. I
On 2018-05-07, Curt wrote:
> On 2018-05-07, Dan Norton wrote:
>>>
>>> on the kernel cmdline. I get nothing I don't need installed that way.
>>> Xorg and whatever else I need I get with apt* once booted normally.
>>>
>>
>> How do you get that on the kernel cmdline? My guess is that when the
>> n
On 2018-05-07, Dan Norton wrote:
>>
>> on the kernel cmdline. I get nothing I don't need installed that way.
>> Xorg and whatever else I need I get with apt* once booted normally.
>>
>
> How do you get that on the kernel cmdline? My guess is that when the
> net-install medium boots, showing the
On Mon, 7 May 2018, jpff wrote:
>
> >
> > > And thank you all who pointed me at the non-free installer files. I will
> > > try that later today with luck
> > >
> > >
>
> well, modified rapture1
>
> i booted from the usb stick with the firmware .iso and tried an install. I
> accepted the l
On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 01:09:33PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Mon 07 May 2018 at 12:34:07 +0100, jpff wrote:
>
> > That looks interesting; it attemts to answer my deep problem about no X,
> > xdm, xterm etc.
> >
> > My problem nowis I do not know where/how to apply this. I have not seen any
> > me
And thank you all who pointed me at the non-free installer files. I will
try that later today with luck
well, modified rapture1
i booted from the usb stick with the firmware .iso and tried an install. I
accepted the licence for the firmware and proceeded to configure the wifi.
It aske
jpff composed on 2018-05-07 12:34 (UTC+0100):
> Felix Miata wrote:
>> My Debian installations are all net installs that include
>> tasks=standard base-installer/install-recommends=false
>> on the kernel cmdline. I get nothing I don't need installed that way. Xorg
>> and
>> whatever else I
On 05/07/2018 08:07 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
[snip]>
It sounds like you un-checked the specific desktop environments (KDE,
GNOME, XFCE, etc.) but left "Debian desktop environment" selected.
I honestly have no idea what happens in that case. I always un-check
that one. The only Tasks I select d
wool...@eeg.ccf.org wrote:
>
>It sounds like you un-checked the specific desktop environments (KDE,
>GNOME, XFCE, etc.) but left "Debian desktop environment" selected.
>I honestly have no idea what happens in that case. I always un-check
>that one. The only Tasks I select during the install are S
On Sun, May 06, 2018 at 09:51:09PM +0100, John wrote:
> After rather a long time it said it was installed so I rebooted -- a
> big mistake! I was hoping for a computer where I could write
> programs, mainly with xterm, emacs (with elisp) and C. I had asked
> for no gnome no kde no xfce... I usua
When I use something like Debian 9 netinst, without a network, I use the
Command Line, through Text Console 1-6, accessible via Alt-F1 through
Alt-F6.
This is what I have been using (when needed) since I first encountered
Linux, in the early 1990's.
This is the original way of conversing with Lin
On Mon 07 May 2018 at 12:34:07 +0100, jpff wrote:
> That looks interesting; it attemts to answer my deep problem about no X,
> xdm, xterm etc.
>
> My problem nowis I do not know where/how to apply this. I have not seen any
> mention of a kernel command line in the net install. More please!
We
That looks interesting; it attemts to answer my deep problem about no X,
xdm, xterm etc.
My problem nowis I do not know where/how to apply this. I have not seen
any mention of a kernel command line in the net install. More please!
And thank you all who pointed me at the non-free installer f
On Sun, 6 May 2018 18:09:12 -0400
Felix Miata wrote:
> John composed on 2018-05-06 21:51 (UTC+0100):
>
> > How do I get a working computer? I can ssh in from elsewhere but
> > that is not what I need. And I need wifi.
>
> My Debian installations are all net installs that include
>
>
Hi John,
Take a look at the relevant section of the installation manual at:
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04.html.en
and then download the unofficial non-free installer iso at:
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/
You can put the
John composed on 2018-05-06 21:51 (UTC+0100):
> How do I get a working computer? I can ssh in from elsewhere but that
> is not what I need. And I need wifi.
My Debian installations are all net installs that include
tasks=standard base-installer/install-recommends=false
on the kernel c
On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 4:51 PM, John wrote:
> I have been a user of debian for many years on a number of computers
> as well as other GNU/Linux systems. Recently I discovered that my
> i686 32bit machine was out of support and they were not supporting
> 32bit machines any longer. After some bad
I have been a user of debian for many years on a number of computers
as well as other GNU/Linux systems. Recently I discovered that my
i686 32bit machine was out of support and they were not supporting
32bit machines any longer. After some bad experiences with Tumbleweed I
decided that I would in
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