Re: .deb dependancy hell

2004-01-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 03:32:53PM -0500, Richard Hoskins wrote: > If package A needs package B, and package B needs package A, why in > the world are they two separate packages? Separate libraries frequently need to be in separate packages, because all hell breaks loose otherwise if the soname

Re: .deb dependancy hell

2004-01-29 Thread Richard Hoskins
Jonathan Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 03:32:53PM -0500, Richard Hoskins wrote: >> Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > RPM == DEB are of nearly equal capacity. It is the Packaging that >> > Debian Uses and the Proper dependency checking it does. >> >>

Re: .deb dependancy hell

2004-01-29 Thread Richard Hoskins
"Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 2004-01-29, Richard Hoskins penned: >> Stephen Rueger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> Conclusion: Stop using low level tools if you can't handle them and >>> don't complain about them if you don't understand them. Get yourself >>> a proper pa

Re: .deb dependancy hell

2004-01-28 Thread Johann Koenig
On Wednesday January 28 at 03:32pm Richard Hoskins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If package A needs package B, and package B needs package A, why in > the world are they two separate packages? Perhaps they are versioned separately, with developmental advances in A not requiring an upgrade to B. O

Re: .deb dependancy hell

2004-01-28 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On 2004-01-29, Richard Hoskins penned: > Stephen Rueger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Conclusion: Stop using low level tools if you can't handle them and >> don't complain about them if you don't understand them. Get yourself >> a proper package management frontend like dselect or aptitude. > >

Re: .deb dependancy hell

2004-01-28 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 03:32:53PM -0500, Richard Hoskins wrote: > Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > RPM == DEB are of nearly equal capacity. It is the Packaging that > > Debian Uses and the Proper dependency checking it does. > > Yes. Whatever. Flippancy doesn't make people more

Re: .deb dependancy hell

2004-01-28 Thread Richard Hoskins
"Rosenstrauch, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In any case, you probably should take this issue with a grain of > salt anyway. You are running "unstable", after all. :-) Absolutely. I'm still learning package management on Debian. The only box I'm running it on is my personal (as in home

Re: .deb dependancy hell

2004-01-28 Thread Richard Hoskins
Stephen Rueger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Conclusion: Stop using low level tools if you can't handle them and > don't complain about them if you don't understand them. Get yourself > a proper package management frontend like dselect or aptitude. I wasn't complaining. -- Lift me down, so I ca

Re: .deb dependancy hell

2004-01-28 Thread Stephen Rueger
Richard Hoskins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >On unstable, i386. Irrelevant. >Kind of reminds me of RPM: Reminds me of lame RPM users... > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo dpkg -r libgphoto2-2 > dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libgphoto2-2: >libgphoto2-port0 depends on libgphoto2-

RE: .deb dependancy hell

2004-01-28 Thread Rosenstrauch, David
salt anyway. You are running "unstable", after all. :-) DR > -Original Message- > From: Rosenstrauch, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 4:36 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: .deb dependancy hell > > > Whoops - my apo

RE: .deb dependancy hell

2004-01-28 Thread Rosenstrauch, David
Whoops - my apologies, then. I didn't read your message carefully enough. DR > -Original Message- > From: Richard Hoskins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 4:25 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: .deb dependancy hell > &g

Re: .deb dependancy hell

2004-01-28 Thread Richard Hoskins
"Rosenstrauch, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There's rarely (if ever) a circular dependency like that. What > you'll normally see is that package A needs package B, and package C > needs package B. Thus package B is usually a shared > component/library that is used by many other apps. It

RE: .deb dependancy hell

2004-01-28 Thread Rosenstrauch, David
> If package A needs package B, and package B needs package A, why in > the world are they two separate packages? There's rarely (if ever) a circular dependency like that. What you'll normally see is that package A needs package B, and package C needs package B. Thus package B is usually a s

Re: .deb dependancy hell

2004-01-28 Thread Richard Hoskins
Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 10:56, Richard Hoskins wrote: >> On unstable, i386. >> >> Kind of reminds me of RPM: [...] > > No... you forget the package management has never been the issue. Are you asserting that it doesn't remind me of RPM? I tell you it d

Re: .deb dependancy hell

2004-01-28 Thread David Z Maze
Richard Hoskins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo dpkg -r libgphoto2-2 >dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libgphoto2-2: > libgphoto2-port0 depends on libgphoto2-2. >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo dpkg -r libgphoto2-port0 >dpkg: dependency problems pre

Re: .deb dependancy hell

2004-01-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 10:56:24AM -0500, Richard Hoskins wrote: > On unstable, i386. > > Kind of reminds me of RPM: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo dpkg -r libgphoto2-2 >dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libgphoto2-2: > libgphoto2-port0 depends on libgphoto2-2. >dpkg: err

Re: .deb dependancy hell

2004-01-28 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 10:56:24AM -0500, Richard Hoskins wrote: } On unstable, i386. } } Kind of reminds me of RPM: } }[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo dpkg -r libgphoto2-2 }dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libgphoto2-2: } libgphoto2-port0 depends on libgphoto2-2. }dpkg: err

Re: .deb dependancy hell

2004-01-28 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 10:56, Richard Hoskins wrote: > On unstable, i386. > > Kind of reminds me of RPM: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo dpkg -r libgphoto2-2 >dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libgphoto2-2: > libgphoto2-port0 depends on libgphoto2-2. >dpkg: error processing

Re: .deb dependancy hell

2004-01-28 Thread Albert Dengg
Hi On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:56:24 -0500 Richard Hoskins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo dpkg -r libgphoto2-2 ... use apt-get remove libgphoto2-2, that will take care of the dependencies and remove everything that depends on it... yours Albert -- Albert Dengg <[EMAIL

Re: .deb dependancy hell

2004-01-28 Thread Francois Bottin
Selon Richard Hoskins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On unstable, i386. > > Kind of reminds me of RPM: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo dpkg -r libgphoto2-2 >dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libgphoto2-2: > libgphoto2-port0 depends on libgphoto2-2. >dpkg: error processing libgpho

Re: .deb dependancy hell

2004-01-28 Thread Dave Carrigan
On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 10:56:24AM -0500, Richard Hoskins wrote: > On unstable, i386. > > Kind of reminds me of RPM: ...snip dpkg -r lossage Why aren't you just using apt-get remove libgphoto2-2 Dpkg was never designed to handle dependencies; apt was. -- Dave Carrigan Seattle, WA, USA [EMA

Re: .deb dependancy hell

2004-01-28 Thread Jacob S.
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:56:24 -0500 Richard Hoskins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On unstable, i386. > > Kind of reminds me of RPM: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo dpkg -r libgphoto2-2 >dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libgphoto2-2: > libgphoto2-port0 depends on libgphoto2-2.

Re: .deb dependancy hell

2004-01-28 Thread Sebastiaan
Hi, On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Richard Hoskins wrote: > On unstable, i386. > > Kind of reminds me of RPM: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo dpkg -r libgphoto2-2 >dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libgphoto2-2: > libgphoto2-port0 depends on libgphoto2-2. >dpkg: error processing lib

.deb dependancy hell

2004-01-28 Thread Richard Hoskins
On unstable, i386. Kind of reminds me of RPM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo dpkg -r libgphoto2-2 dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libgphoto2-2: libgphoto2-port0 depends on libgphoto2-2. dpkg: error processing libgphoto2-2 (--remove): dependency problems - not removing