Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-12 Thread John Summerfield
Werner Mahr wrote: Am Montag, 9. August 2004 00:05 schrieb Simon Kitching: Of course this would not count users of testing or unstable, which don't have security updates. Only testing. Unstable has securityupdates. Sarge gas security updates. I'd have said, 'Unstable has random updates:-

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-12 Thread Paul Johnson
Werner Mahr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am Montag, 9. August 2004 00:05 schrieb Simon Kitching: > >> Of course this would not count users of testing or unstable, which don't >> have security updates. > > Only testing. Unstable has securityupdates. Unstable does not get security updates on secu

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-12 Thread Werner Mahr
Am Montag, 9. August 2004 00:05 schrieb Simon Kitching: > Of course this would not count users of testing or unstable, which don't > have security updates. Only testing. Unstable has securityupdates. -- MfG usw. Werner Mahr registered Linuxuser: 295882 pgpvkZj2zzyyu.pgp Description: signatur

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-12 Thread Werner Mahr
Am Sonntag, 8. August 2004 20:37 schrieb Steve Lamb: > Werner Mahr wrote: > > Many Browsers Identify themselves as IE, Opera as example does this as > > default even under Linux. > > Not exactly true. It still identifies itself as Opera in the string, > it just presents it in a way that most c

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-10 Thread Pete Harlan
On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 07:45:34PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: > George Roman wrote: > > >" right" is a relative word. debian is the right choice for me, if others > >(people who use other dist) prefer to reinstall their systems with each > >new release it is their business. > > > > > > Which

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-09 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello! On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 07:32:28PM +1000, CaT wrote: > On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 11:28:44AM +0200, Florian Ernst wrote: > > > > Popcon only needs atime to determine which packages have actually been > > _used_ lately, so you can still run it. > > I turn off atime on my partitions to speed u

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-09 Thread CaT
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 11:28:44AM +0200, Florian Ernst wrote: > > Laptop users typically turn off access time, to stop excess HD > > accesses, and popcon needs accesstime to work. > > Popcon only needs atime to determine which packages have actually been > _used_ lately, so you can still run it.

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-09 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello! On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 09:24:57AM +1000, Tim Connors wrote: > Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Sun, 08 Aug 2004 15:07:19 -0700: > > "Please participate in popularity-contest" > > Damn. Can't sorry. > > Laptop users typically turn off access time, to stop excess HD > accesses, and p

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 8 Aug 2004, George Roman wrote: > > > i never heard about popcon :) and i use debian (woody&sarge&sid) for > almost 2 years. > You should. This is a better way for all of us to figure out the popularity and usage of debian. And in no way it ha

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread Katipo
Paul Scott wrote: A message was just posted to Debian development with the subject: "Please participate in popularity-contest" If you are not using popularity-contest it would help the developers know your priorities if more of you would install and use it. Paul Scott I always have. I look on it

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread John Summerfield
Simon Kitching wrote: On Sun, 2004-08-08 at 22:19, Jaap Haitsma wrote: I came across this website http://popcon.debian.org/ It shows statistics how many people have installed a certain package on what kind of system etc. etc. If you want to anonymously report what packages you are using you ha

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread John Summerfield
Paul Johnson wrote: John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: George Roman wrote: " right" is a relative word. debian is the right choice for me, if others (people who use other dist) prefer to reinstall their systems with each new release it is their business. Which distros need

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread Tim Connors
Simon Kitching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Mon, 09 Aug 2004 10:05:07 +1200: > I think a better way to measure the number of debian installs would be > for security.debian.org to count unique IP addresses. While lots of > people won't have popularity-contest installed, a large majority of them > wil

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread Tim Connors
Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Sun, 08 Aug 2004 15:07:19 -0700: > Matthew T. Atkinson wrote: > > >'ello, > > > >I use popcon on my relatively new Sarge box. Problem is that there is a > >bug preventing the mails from getting out to Debian's machines. So it > >could be that even people us

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread Paul Scott
Matthew T. Atkinson wrote: 'ello, I use popcon on my relatively new Sarge box. Problem is that there is a bug preventing the mails from getting out to Debian's machines. So it could be that even people using popcon are not being counted. Not sure if the bug has been fixed yet; I remember apt-list

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread Simon Kitching
On Sun, 2004-08-08 at 22:19, Jaap Haitsma wrote: > I came across this website http://popcon.debian.org/ > It shows statistics how many people have installed a certain package on > what kind of system etc. etc. If you want to anonymously report what > packages you are using you have to have the po

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread Paul Johnson
John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > George Roman wrote: > >>" right" is a relative word. debian is the right choice for me, if others >>(people who use other dist) prefer to reinstall their systems with each >>new release it is their business. > > Which distros need to be reinstalled fo

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread Paul Johnson
William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 12:19:54PM +0200, Jaap Haitsma wrote: >> Are there only around 1000 debian users on the world (assumption 60% of >> them sends reports) > > Why would you assume that? I don't use popcon; it's possible that 99.9% > of users do

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread Matthew T. Atkinson
'ello, I use popcon on my relatively new Sarge box. Problem is that there is a bug preventing the mails from getting out to Debian's machines. So it could be that even people using popcon are not being counted. Not sure if the bug has been fixed yet; I remember apt-listbugs telling me about it

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread Steve Lamb
Werner Mahr wrote: > Many Browsers Identify themselves as IE, Opera as example does this as default > even under Linux. Not exactly true. It still identifies itself as Opera in the string, it just presents it in a way that most checks think it is IE. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread gnari
"Jaap Haitsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > William Ballard wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 12:19:54PM +0200, Jaap Haitsma wrote: > > > >>Are there only around 1000 debian users on the world (assumption 60% of > >>them sends reports) > > > > > > Why would you ass

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread John Summerfield
John Fleming wrote: - Original Message - From: "John Summerfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 6:45 AM Subject: Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest) George Roman wrote:

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread John Fleming
- Original Message - From: "John Summerfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 6:45 AM Subject: Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest) > George Roman wrote: > > >" r

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread Tim Connors
Jaap Haitsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Sun, 08 Aug 2004 13:02:12 +0200: > William Ballard wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 12:19:54PM +0200, Jaap Haitsma wrote: > > > >>Are there only around 1000 debian users on the world (assumption 60% of > >>them sends reports) > > > > > > Why would you

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread John Summerfield
George Roman wrote: " right" is a relative word. debian is the right choice for me, if others (people who use other dist) prefer to reinstall their systems with each new release it is their business. Which distros need to be reinstalled for each new release? -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PR

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread Werner Mahr
Am Sonntag, 8. August 2004 13:02 schrieb Jaap Haitsma: > According to Google stats 1% of them is using Linux. So there are around 5M > users of Linux. Many Browsers Identify themselves as IE, Opera as example does this as default even under Linux. -- MfG usw. Werner Mahr registered Linuxuser

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread George Roman
" right" is a relative word. debian is the right choice for me, if others (people who use other dist) prefer to reinstall their systems with each new release it is their business. George Roman Technical Support RDS Timisoara Branch - Network Operations Center Tel: +4 0356 400 200 Tel: +4 0256 20

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread John Summerfield
Jaap Haitsma wrote: William Ballard wrote: On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 12:19:54PM +0200, Jaap Haitsma wrote: Are there only around 1000 debian users on the world (assumption 60% of them sends reports) Why would you assume that? I don't use popcon; it's possible that 99.9% of users don't use it. Wh

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread Jaap Haitsma
William Ballard wrote: On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 12:19:54PM +0200, Jaap Haitsma wrote: Are there only around 1000 debian users on the world (assumption 60% of them sends reports) Why would you assume that? I don't use popcon; it's possible that 99.9% of users don't use it. Who knows? Oops, I mea

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread Patrick Donker
William Ballard wrote: On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 12:19:54PM +0200, Jaap Haitsma wrote: Are there only around 1000 debian users on the world (assumption 60% of them sends reports) Why would you assume that? I don't use popcon; it's possible that 99.9% of users don't use it. Who knows? I know I

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread George Roman
i never heard about popcon :) and i use debian (woody&sarge&sid) for almost 2 years. George Roman Technical Support RDS Timisoara Branch - Network Operations Center Tel: +4 0356 400 200 Tel: +4 0256 200 033 Fax: +4 0256 294 510 www.rdsnet.ro =

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread William Ballard
On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 12:19:54PM +0200, Jaap Haitsma wrote: > Are there only around 1000 debian users on the world (assumption 60% of > them sends reports) Why would you assume that? I don't use popcon; it's possible that 99.9% of users don't use it. Who knows? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread Jaap Haitsma
I came across this website http://popcon.debian.org/ It shows statistics how many people have installed a certain package on what kind of system etc. etc. If you want to anonymously report what packages you are using you have to have the popularity-contest package installed. I guess many people