Re: [OT] KMail - forwarding issues

2010-11-01 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 15:00:22 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Monday 01 November 2010 14:34:10 Camaleón wrote: >> On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 14:14:48 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> > Users didn't want UNIX or C when it was invented. Users didn't want >> > the GUI when it was invented. >

Re: [OT] KMail - forwarding issues

2010-11-01 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 01 November 2010 14:34:10 Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 14:14:48 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > Users didn't want UNIX or C when it was invented. Users didn't want the > > GUI when it was invented. > > Are you basing your argument in stating that all users in the world

Re: [OT] KMail - forwarding issues

2010-11-01 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 14:14:48 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > In , Camaleón wrote: >>> Studies and experience have shown time and time again that users >>> *don't know* what they want. Henry Ford once said: "If I asked my >>> customers what they wanted, they would have said 'A faster horse

Re: [OT] KMail - forwarding issues

2010-11-01 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In , Camaleón wrote: >On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 02:42:37 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> In , Camaleón wrote: >(...) > >>>If you are concerned about that "usability problem" then ask the users >>>what would they prefer and what would be more confortable for them. Do >>>not make the error of just

Re: [OT] KMail - forwarding issues

2010-11-01 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 02:42:37 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > In , Camaleón wrote: (...) >>If you are concerned about that "usability problem" then ask the users >>what would they prefer and what would be more confortable for them. Do >>not make the error of just think for them. > > Studi

Re: [OT] KMail - forwarding issues

2010-11-01 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 01. 11. 2010 08:42:37 je Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. napisal(a): Studies and experience have shown time and time again that users *don't know* what they want. Henry Ford once said: "If I asked my customers what they wanted, they would have said 'A faster horse.'" It is an unfortunate tru

Re: [OT] KMail - forwarding issues

2010-11-01 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In , Camaleón wrote: >On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:40:49 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> When using the web, you are using a pull / request model. In this case, >> server dictates the terms. The UA must accept and process whatever the >> server deigns to deliver as part of the request, and the

Re: [OT] KMail - forwarding issues

2010-10-31 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:40:49 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > In , Camaleón wrote: >>It is called "evolution". >> >>The first hypertext applications were not very dynamic, I'd say, just >>text and some links to jump to. Just look around now what the web has to >>offer. > > Yes, because HTM

Re: [OT] KMail - forwarding issues

2010-10-31 Thread Ron Johnson
On 10/31/2010 08:51 AM, Camaleón wrote: [snip] Come on, we cannot be so hypocrite. In no way html is a bad thing "per se", it is an standard, it has it uses and people need that feature. 2400 people need that feature. In business, people *constantly* use html mail in Outlook/Exchange and it's

Re: [OT] KMail - forwarding issues

2010-10-31 Thread Ron Johnson
On 10/31/2010 08:14 AM, Klistvud wrote: Dne, 31. 10. 2010 12:02:39 je Camaleón napisal(a): On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:49:24 +, Lisi wrote: > On Sunday 31 October 2010 10:32:24 Camaleón wrote: >> I don't see how a "lack" (meaning, "inability of choice") can be a good >> feature ;-( I don't thi

Re: [OT] KMail - forwarding issues

2010-10-31 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In , Camaleón wrote: >On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 13:51:04 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> In , Camaleón wrote: >>>On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 16:51:05 +0100, Klistvud wrote: Dne, 31. 10. 2010 14:51:00 je Camaleón napisal(a): > I don't know how can you equate all that stuff with having html >

Re: [OT] KMail - forwarding issues

2010-10-31 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 13:51:04 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > In , Camaleón wrote: >>On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 16:51:05 +0100, Klistvud wrote: >>> Dne, 31. 10. 2010 14:51:00 je Camaleón napisal(a): I don't know how can you equate all that stuff with having html e-mail unsless you also av

Re: [OT] KMail - forwarding issues

2010-10-31 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In , Camaleón wrote: >On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 16:51:05 +0100, Klistvud wrote: >> Dne, 31. 10. 2010 14:51:00 je Camaleón napisal(a): >>> I don't know how can you equate all that stuff with having html e-mail >>> unsless you also avoid using Internet (websites use html and not plain >>> text and we are a

Re: [OT] KMail - forwarding issues

2010-10-31 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 16:51:05 +0100, Klistvud wrote: > Dne, 31. 10. 2010 14:51:00 je Camaleón napisal(a): >> I don't know how can you equate all that stuff with having html e-mail >> unsless you also avoid using Internet (websites use html and not plain >> text and we are all happy with that). >

Re: [OT] KMail - forwarding issues

2010-10-31 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 31. 10. 2010 14:51:00 je Camaleón napisal(a): On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 14:14:12 +0100, Klistvud wrote: > > I don't think you can directly equate "choice" to "feature" just like > that. Not letting kids wield guns, or prostitute themselves, or work in > sweatshops, are "features" although actu

Re: [OT] KMail - forwarding issues

2010-10-31 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 14:14:12 +0100, Klistvud wrote: > Dne, 31. 10. 2010 12:02:39 je Camaleón napisal(a): >> >> I don't see how a "lack" (meaning, "inability of choice") can be a >> >> good feature ;-( > > I don't think you can directly equate "choice" to "feature" just like > that. Not letting k

Re: [OT] KMail - forwarding issues

2010-10-31 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 10/31/2010 09:14 AM, Klistvud wrote: > Unfortunately, many of us have that path quite simply *thrust upon > us*. I wouldn't call that a choice by any stretch of the imagination. > Ever tried updating your mail over a tethered UMTS phone because your > DSL line just died or you're in the wild som

Re: [OT] KMail - forwarding issues

2010-10-31 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 31. 10. 2010 12:02:39 je Camaleón napisal(a): On Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:49:24 +, Lisi wrote: > On Sunday 31 October 2010 10:32:24 Camaleón wrote: >> I don't see how a "lack" (meaning, "inability of choice") can be a good >> feature ;-( I don't think you can directly equate "choice" to