Re: [OT] Backup solutions - watching

2003-03-21 Thread Jamie Lawrence
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Alvin Oga wrote: > > > On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Jamie Lawrence wrote: > > > If you use it, I recommend keeping a close eye on it. > > if you use any backup system ... > - restore that "backup data" to a new disk regularly > and see that all the files are there.. [.

Re: [OT] Backup solutions - watching

2003-03-21 Thread Alvin Oga
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Jamie Lawrence wrote: > If you use it, I recommend keeping a close eye on it. if you use any backup system ... - restore that "backup data" to a new disk regularly and see that all the files are there.. ls -laR /Original > /tmp/x.x ls -laR /

Re: [OT] Backup solutions - my preferences

2003-03-21 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 03:33:12PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > fun stuff... :-) Oh, yeah! > On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, Dave Sherohman wrote: > > Haven't used amanda, have you? Just set yourself up with a > > decent-sized holding disk and it's not a problem. (Your backups will > > yes... if one has th

Re: [OT] Backup solutions - my preferences

2003-03-21 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 10:02:58PM -0500, Bob Paige wrote: > >Haven't used amanda, have you? Just set yourself up with a > >decent-sized holding disk and it's not a problem. (Your backups will > >finish fast, too.) My amanda server at work can easily run a week's > >worth of backups without need

Re: [OT] Backup solutions

2003-03-21 Thread Jamie Lawrence
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Bob, > > "Bob" == Bob Paige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Bob> Opinions? > > I tried rdiff-backup. > I uses rsync-like transfer method to minimize net load and diff-like store method to > save > incrementals. Diff method is extended e

Re: [OT] Backup solutions - rdiff

2003-03-21 Thread stavel
Hi Alvin, > "Alvin" == Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Alvin> yes.. rdiff sounds like a good thing to do.. - make a 1 Alvin> line change and only save that one line diff changes Alvin> - but if one creates a 10MB.file and 100MB.file and Alvin> 1GB.file... - thhose 10MB

Re: [OT] Backup solutions - rdiff

2003-03-21 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya savel On 21 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Bob, > > "Bob" == Bob Paige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Bob> Opinions? > > I tried rdiff-backup. > I uses rsync-like transfer method to minimize net load and diff-like store method to > save > incrementals. Diff method is ex

Re: [OT] Backup solutions

2003-03-21 Thread stavel
Hi Bob, > "Bob" == Bob Paige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bob> Opinions? I tried rdiff-backup. I uses rsync-like transfer method to minimize net load and diff-like store method to save incrementals. Diff method is extended even for binary file (that is rdiff algorithm). The program creat

Re: [OT] Backup solutions - my preferences

2003-03-20 Thread Bob Paige
Haven't used amanda, have you? Just set yourself up with a decent-sized holding disk and it's not a problem. (Your backups will finish fast, too.) My amanda server at work can easily run a week's worth of backups without needing a tape, just saving it all up on the holding disk. Just be sure t

Re: [OT] Backup solutions - my preferences

2003-03-20 Thread Alvin Oga
fun stuff... :-) On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, Dave Sherohman wrote: > > i dont have time to play with tapes.. daily changing it.. > > - forget one day... and you're hosed > > Haven't used amanda, have you? Just set yourself up with a > decent-sized holding disk and it's not a problem. (Your backu

Re: [OT] Backup solutions - my preferences

2003-03-20 Thread Glenn English
On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 14:54, Dave Sherohman wrote: > On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 01:04:08PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > > i dont have time to play with tapes.. daily changing it.. > > - forget one day... and you're hosed > > Haven't used amanda, have you? Just set yourself up with a > decent-sized

Re: [OT] Backup solutions - my preferences

2003-03-20 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 01:04:08PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > On 20 Mar 2003, Glenn English wrote: > > 1) tape - can easily back up the entire system (and a small network) > > 2) DDS - others are faster, but they cost more > > 3) amanda, amanda, and amanda - command line, cron-able, free, and very >

Re: [OT] Backup solutions - my preferences

2003-03-20 Thread Alvin Oga
On 20 Mar 2003, Glenn English wrote: > On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 08:59, Bob Paige wrote: > > > Questions: > > 1) what is better for backup, tape, or CD? (I already have a CD burner) > > 2) if tape, what is a good/inexpensive product to use? > > 3) what software works best? > > IMHO, > 1) tape - c

Re: [OT] Backup solutions

2003-03-20 Thread Glenn English
On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 08:59, Bob Paige wrote: > Questions: > 1) what is better for backup, tape, or CD? (I already have a CD burner) > 2) if tape, what is a good/inexpensive product to use? > 3) what software works best? IMHO, 1) tape - can easily back up the entire system (and a small network)

Re: [OT] Backup solutions

2003-03-20 Thread nate
Bob Paige said: > Opinions? see this: http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/03/03/18/0252218.shtml?tid=106 for my own use, at the moment I use an Exabyte Mammoth tape drive for my backups. 20/40GB tapes. I got the tape drive for $100 from my previous employer(at the time ebay had em for $400-500).

Re: [OT] Backup solutions

2003-03-20 Thread Gary Hennigan
"Bob Paige" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've been running my debian system without a backup for about a year > now. I understand the need for backup (hence this message) so please, > no assaults for not using one. > > Questions: > 1) what is better for backup, tape, or CD? (I already have a CD bu

Re: [OT] Backup solutions

2003-03-20 Thread Thomas Krennwallner
Hi! On Thu Mar 20, 2003 at 10:59:40AM -0500, the boisterous Bob Paige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote to me: > 1) what is better for backup, tape, or CD? (I already have a CD burner) IMHO tape, but it depends on cost, ... > 2) if tape, what is a good/inexpensive product to use? If have an inexpensive

[OT] Backup solutions

2003-03-20 Thread Bob Paige
I've been running my debian system without a backup for about a year now. I understand the need for backup (hence this message) so please, no assaults for not using one. Questions: 1) what is better for backup, tape, or CD? (I already have a CD burner) 2) if tape, what is a good/inexpensive prod