Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-06 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 09:49:47AM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Since many people fail to read the instructions at the end of list > mails, I am providing an unofficial Unsubscribe FAQ Already covered. I generally send this out to any 'unsub' subject mails on list. S

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-03 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 02:53:16PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: > On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 13:09:42 -0600, Kent West wrote: > > > Several words have been used in this thread (it happens in other threads > > also) that have traditionally been considered "foul language", at least > > in my Texan culture,

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-03 Thread Nano Nano
On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 02:53:16PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: [snip] > With regard to foul language in posts, I think that the net effect is > probably that it demeans the poster more than it offends the reader. Probably. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscr

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-03 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 13:09:42 -0600, Kent West wrote: > > Several words have been used in this thread (it happens in other threads > also) that have traditionally been considered "foul language", at least > in my Texan culture, although without a standard definition of "foul > language" it's h

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-03 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 09:55:01 -0800, Nano Nano wrote: > > You probably favor "diplomacy" -- some people who hate Bush say Clinton > did this. What *really* happened is we got a false sense of security > that the world was at peace while the criminals really operated with > impunity. The Clin

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-03 Thread Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.
Nano Nano wrote: On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 12:18:45PM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: [snip] You do not need to remove civil liberties to fight terrorism. Less freedom does not equal more secure. Okay, what's the plan? Passivity, of course, is not an option. I'm gonna fight to protect myself

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-03 Thread Nano Nano
On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 12:18:45PM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: [snip] > You do not need to remove civil liberties to fight terrorism. Less > freedom does not equal more secure. Okay, what's the plan? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-03 Thread Kent West
Josh Robinson wrote: Not meaning to be a prude, but see: http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct, next to last rule. could you please quote webpages for those who have difficulty accessing webpages from email? (the sysadmins have disabled the URL-viewer in Pine when run on my email

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-03 Thread Uwe Dippel
On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 09:55:01 -0800, Nano Nano wrote: > Yeah but there *really are* people out there who want to kill us. > It's your job to prevent them. Maybe this should be continued elsewhere, because it doesn't have too much to do with Debian. On top of that, you're probably wrong. They coul

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-03 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 3 Jan 2004 00:41:46 -0700, "s. keeling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Incoming from Tim Connors: > > Nano Nano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Fri, 2 Jan 2004 > > 20:38:32 -0800: > > > On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 09:29:32PM -0700, s. keeling wrote: > > > > That is j

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-03 Thread Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.
Nano Nano wrote: On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 10:01:31AM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: [snip] There are always people (often good, well-meaning people) in every country and government who seek greater control over their citizens, because they honestly believe that they know best how people should behave and

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-03 Thread Nano Nano
On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 10:01:31AM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: [snip] > > There are always people (often good, well-meaning people) in every country > and government who seek greater control over their citizens, because they > honestly believe that they know best how people should behave and run > t

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-03 Thread Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.
Josh Robinson wrote: Not meaning to be a prude, but see: http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct, next to last rule. could you please quote webpages for those who have difficulty accessing webpages from email? (the sysadmins have disabled the URL-viewer in Pine when run on my email-ser

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-03 Thread Josh Robinson
> Not meaning to be a prude, but see: > http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct, next to last rule. could you please quote webpages for those who have difficulty accessing webpages from email? (the sysadmins have disabled the URL-viewer in Pine when run on my email-server, for example.

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-03 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 11:21:30AM -0500, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: > I think that some groups involved with the 9-11 tragedy knew perfectly > that this was a secure way of raping the minds w/o much resistance. It > would be interesting to check the gro

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-03 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 07:12:59AM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: > You are obviously unaware of the US schoolboy who, during the Cold War, > had the Soviet travel agency (can't remember its name now, InTourist, > maybe) mail him some USSR tourist brochures

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-03 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 10:01:31AM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: > On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 05:40:14 -0800, Nano Nano wrote: > > Secondly, I was in agreement with RR's desciption of the USSR as the "evil > empire"... any regime which seeks to deny basic personal freedoms is > totally abhorrent to me. > >

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-03 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 05:40:14 -0800, Nano Nano wrote: > > I know the title will offend, but you should read the book "Useful > Idiots" by Mona Charen. > > The phrase was Lenin's. > > About you :-) Well, firstly, I'm not offended in the least by being characterized as "useful" :) Secondly, I w

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-03 Thread Nano Nano
On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 07:12:59AM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: > On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 18:58:05 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 02:06:31PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: > >> Given the current security climate, it's quite p

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-03 Thread Paul Morgan
On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 18:58:05 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 02:06:31PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: >> Given the current security climate, it's quite possible that your last >> remark has caused your mail to end up in the inbo

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-03 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 07:25:47AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..none of you guys tried flying overseas? _Has_ been a few > cancellations lately. ;-) Sarcasm hasn't been lost. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'`

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-03 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Tim Connors: > Nano Nano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Fri, 2 Jan 2004 20:38:32 -0800: > > On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 09:29:32PM -0700, s. keeling wrote: > > > That is just so full of s**t, I'm not sure where to begin. Name a > > > corporation that has the power to toss you into Gitmo for

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-02 Thread Tim Connors
Nano Nano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Fri, 2 Jan 2004 20:38:32 -0800: > On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 09:29:32PM -0700, s. keeling wrote: > > That is just so full of s**t, I'm not sure where to begin. Name a > > corporation that has the power to toss you into Gitmo for an > > unspecified period. All a

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-02 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 18:58:05 -0800, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 02:06:31PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: > > Given the current security climate, it's quite possible that your > >

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-02 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 10:56:04PM -0500, charlie derr wrote: > >Governments don't have as much power to fuck my life up as corporations. > > Perhaps true in some situations, but from my point of view (as a usian), > it's getting harder and harder to

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-02 Thread Nano Nano
On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 09:29:32PM -0700, s. keeling wrote: > That is just so full of s**t, I'm not sure where to begin. Name a > corporation that has the power to toss you into Gitmo for an > unspecified period. All a corporation can do is throw lawyers at > you. Big deal. Equifax -- To UNS

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-02 Thread s. keeling
WAY OFF TOPIC for du; please accept my apologies. Incoming from Nano Nano: > > I'd like to complain about the fact that when I don't shave and wake up > on the weekends I get tailed by the store security guy in the grocery > store. WTF is up with that? Can't I be a slob if I feel like it? Wh

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-02 Thread Kent West
Nano Nano wrote: On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 06:58:05PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: Like anybody in national security gives a flying fuck about some off-handed joke in a relatively obscure mailing list. Governments don't have as much power to fuck my life up as corporations. Not meaning to

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-02 Thread Nano Nano
On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 10:56:04PM -0500, charlie derr wrote: > >Governments don't have as much power to fuck my life up as corporations. > > Perhaps true in some situations, but from my point of view (as a usian), > it's getting harder and harder to tell the two apart. Not me. The assholes I h

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-02 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 07:45:04PM -0800, Nano Nano wrote: > I'd like to complain about the fact that when I don't shave and wake up > on the weekends I get tailed by the store security guy in the grocery > store. WTF is up with that? Can't I be a

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-02 Thread charlie derr
Governments don't have as much power to fuck my life up as corporations. Perhaps true in some situations, but from my point of view (as a usian), it's getting harder and harder to tell the two apart. ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? C

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-02 Thread Nano Nano
On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 06:58:05PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 02:06:31PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: > > Given the current security climate, it's quite possible that your last > > remark has caused your mail to end up in the inbox of some spook who might > > also read your s

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-02 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 02:06:31PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: > Given the current security climate, it's quite possible that your last > remark has caused your mail to end up in the inbox of some spook who might > also read your sig and add two and two

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-01 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Thursday 01 January 2004 16:49, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: > 2. But what if I send it to just debian-@lists.debian.org? > > I'll shoot you. I have a confession to make: I once managed to send an unsubscribe to debian-security. Background: I had just gotten into a situation where I had to run

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-01 Thread Scarletdown
Paul Morgan wrote: I propose that this quiz be sent to all would be subscribers, requiring a minimum score of 11/20 to be allowed to subscribe (yes, I know it's old): LIST SUBSCRIPTION TEST -- DEBIAN-USER VERSION Time Limit: 3 WEEKS 1. What language is spoken in France?

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-01 Thread Jan Minar
On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 01:35:53PM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote: > If they are unable to follow the simple instructions to unsubscribe, > chances are they are also unable to repeatedly place one foot in front of > the other quickly enough to actually run. Although they can't read (cf. the high rate of

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-01 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 11:13:01 -0500, Carl Fink wrote: > Suggestion to listowner: set up a challenge-response system to > subscribe to Debian lists. In order for your subscription to become > active, instead of the usual "respond to this email" gimmick, the > person must answer a one-question quiz

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-01 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 09:49:47 -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: > Since many people fail to read the instructions at the end of list > mails, I am providing an unofficial Unsubscribe FAQ > > 1. How do I unsubscribe from debian-@lists.debian.org? > > You send your request, with the word "Unsubscr

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-01 Thread Paul Morgan
On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 16:51:53 +0100, Jan Minar wrote: > On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 09:49:47AM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: >> I'll shoot you. > > Some of them: > (a) The unsubscribers are dispersed all around the world > (c) The traffic speed is not sufficient to get there in time > (b) They wil

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-01 Thread Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.
Jan Minar wrote: On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 11:06:45AM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: Jan Minar wrote: (c) The traffic speed is not sufficient to get there in time Oh, it isn't `traffic' in English, is it?: Aeroplanes, automobiles, trains, ...

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-01 Thread Jan Minar
On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 11:06:45AM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: > Jan Minar wrote: > >(c) The traffic speed is not sufficient to get there in time > > Oh, it isn't `traffic' in English, is it?: Aeroplanes, automobiles, trains, ... So you wil

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-01 Thread Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.
Jan Minar wrote: On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 09:49:47AM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: I'll shoot you. Some of them: (a) The unsubscribers are dispersed all around the world So? IF you'd like you can translate the FAQ into any languages needed. (c) The traffic speed is not sufficient to get ther

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-01 Thread Jan Minar
On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 09:49:47AM -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: > I'll shoot you. Some of them: (a) The unsubscribers are dispersed all around the world (c) The traffic speed is not sufficient to get there in time (b) They will tend to run away -- Jan Minar "Please don'

Re: [OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-01 Thread Carl Fink
Suggestion to listowner: set up a challenge-response system to subscribe to Debian lists. In order for your subscription to become active, instead of the usual "respond to this email" gimmick, the person must answer a one-question quiz on how to unsubscribe. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTE

[OT[UnOfficial Unsubscribe FAQ

2004-01-01 Thread Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.
Since many people fail to read the instructions at the end of list mails, I am providing an unofficial Unsubscribe FAQ 1. How do I unsubscribe from debian-@lists.debian.org? You send your request, with the word "Unsubscribe" in the subject line, to debian-[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. But what if I sen