Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-13 Thread Mertens Bram
I would like to add another suggestion to the list: * Choose a proper subject for your message Messages without a subject or with a subject like "Help!!!" are more likely to be ignored than messages with a subject clearly describing the problem. HTH Bram -- # Mertens Bram "M8ram" <[EMAIL PRO

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-12 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:13:02 -0800 Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > through all sites. This is far from a guarantee: Assuming 4 days > delivery time unless otherwise bounced or responded to is generally a > safe assumption. Ok, I'll use the big scissors from now on :) Regards, Andrei

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-11 Thread Paul Johnson
Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 09:51:57 -0700 > Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Learning to quote should include trimming from the quote all the >> material that is not relevant to your answer. We probably have >> already read the OP's post and don't need to see it again

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-11 Thread Paul Johnson
Celejar wrote: > What is "going AOL!"? The "Me too!" or similarly content-free, untrimmed-quote post. http://wiki.ursine.ca/AOL! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-11 Thread Nigel Henry
On Thursday 11 January 2007 19:33, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 07:27:43PM +0100, Nigel Henry wrote: > > On Thursday 11 January 2007 17:11, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 04:44:59PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 07:27:43PM +0100, Nigel Henry wrote: > On Thursday 11 January 2007 17:11, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 04:44:59PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > >> So on your question in general post to the list, don't CC

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-11 Thread Nigel Henry
On Thursday 11 January 2007 17:11, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 04:44:59PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > >> So on your question in general post to the list, don't CC unless > > >> requested, send private messages when the contents are

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-11 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 09:51:57 -0700 Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Learning to quote should include trimming from the quote all the > material that is not relevant to your answer. We probably have > already read the OP's post and don't need to see it again and again. I replied immediate

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-11 Thread Paul Scott
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 23:37:30 -0800 "Justin Gallardo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey All, I am preparing a presentation to a group of students on mailing list netiquette( (SNIP!) I think the answer is definitely DO NOT CC: (Snip) You might also find usef

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 04:44:59PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > >> So on your question in general post to the list, don't CC unless > >> requested, send private messages when the contents are not beneficial for > >> public consumption. > >> > > > > Second tha

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-11 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: > * * When turning on a vacation responder, exclude mailing lists. * Turn off "Request Receipt" when posting to a mailing list. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tr

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-11 Thread Kent West
* Readers should be aware that their posting will be public forever more and cannot be retracted from the public eye. * Confidentiality disclaimers are a joke (and irritant) when posting to a public list (or anytime, for that matter). * Don't scream at the list when you can't get unsubscribed. (I

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-11 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hello. Celejar, 11.01.2007 06:41: > On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:44:59 -0800 > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > >> Another one: Avoid going AOL! on the list. If you must AOL! the list, at >> least trim it down to just what you're AOLing. > > What is "going AOL!"? See Wikipedia[

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-11 Thread Paul Johnson
Andrei Popescu wrote: > I think the answer is definitely DO NOT CC: :) If you look through the > archives you will notice a few signatures like: "Do not CC, I read the > list." This basically says it all: most of us are subscribed to the > list. We get every mail sent to the list. Why would I need

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread Mike McCarty
Justin Gallardo wrote: Hey All, I am preparing a presentation to a group of students on mailing list netiquette(as you may have guessed by the subject), and thought that http://www.albion.com/netiquette http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html http://writersw

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:44:59 -0800 Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Another one: Avoid going AOL! on the list. If you must AOL! the list, at > least trim it down to just what you're AOLing. What is "going AOL!"? Celejar -- ssuds.sourceforge.net - Home of Ssuds and Ssudg, a S

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread M. Fioretti
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 23:37:30 PM -0800, Justin Gallardo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hey All, > I am preparing a presentation to a group of students on mailing list > netiquette > ... > Also, if you can think of any other good points to bring up during > this talk, I would love to hear them. 0)

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread M. Fioretti
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 17:08:16 PM +0100, Per Carlson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Here is my 0.02$: > > - Never start a new topic by replying to an existing email and just > change the subject. This will mess things up for people (like me) who > uses threads. Fortunately proper mail clients (r

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread Paul Johnson
Dave Sherohman wrote: > On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 11:37:30PM -0800, Justin Gallardo wrote: >> When replying >> to an email, is it proper to leave the original poster in the To: line of >> the email, and the CC the list? Or is it better to just send your reply >> to the list, not specifically mention

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread Paul Johnson
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> So on your question in general post to the list, don't CC unless >> requested, send private messages when the contents are not beneficial for >> public consumption. >> > > Second that! Another one: Avoid going AOL! on the list. If you must AOL! the list, at

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 23:37:30 -0800 "Justin Gallardo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey All, > I am preparing a presentation to a group of students on mailing list > netiquette(as you may have guessed by the subject), and thought that > maybe I could use the busiest mailing list I followed as a good

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread Ken Irving
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 03:02:02AM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 11:37:30PM -0800, Justin Gallardo wrote: > > I am preparing a presentation to a group of students on mailing list > > netiquette > > (as you may have guessed by the subject), and thought that maybe I could use >

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread Paul Johnson
Justin Hartman wrote: > On 1/10/07, Scarletdown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 2: If someone posts a problem, and gives all the relevant information >> (hardware configuration, log files, errors, etc), and the only thing you >> can respond with is "Works for me", then please do everyone a favor an

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Lamb wrote: > Along that same theoretical thread how does one unsubscribe from a CC > list? It is completely and utterly unacceptable to CC the OP unless it is > requested. Then, and only then, should one CC the OP and noone else in > the the thread. Even then, I would go the extra mile t

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread Paul Johnson
Justin Gallardo wrote: > Hey All, > I am preparing a presentation to a group of students on mailing list > netiquette(as you may have guessed by the subject), [...] I have thought > of numerous things to bring up in the presentation including rules about > top-posting(not doing it), tips to help

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread cga2000
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 02:37:30AM EST, Justin Gallardo wrote: >Hey All, >I am preparing a presentation to a group of students on mailing list >netiquette(as you may have guessed by the subject), and thought that maybe >I could use the busiest mailing list I followed as a good sourc

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread David Jardine
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 11:37:30PM -0800, Justin Gallardo wrote: > Hey All, > I am preparing a presentation to a group of students on mailing list > netiquette(as you may have guessed by the subject), and thought that maybe I > could use the busiest mailing list I followed as a good source of > inf

RE: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread Steve Belt
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 11:37:30PM -0800, Justin Gallardo wrote: > Hey All, > I am preparing a presentation to a group of students on mailing list > netiquette (as you may have guessed by the subject), and thought that > maybe I could use the busiest mailing list I followed as a good source > of

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 03:02:39AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Justin Gallardo wrote: > > When replying to an email, is it proper to leave the original poster in > > the To: line of the email, and the CC the list? > > I am a staunch believer that if one is replying to a post on the list it > sh

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread Justin Gallardo
P.S. Sorry to pick on you, but this was a glaring etiquette mistake, (at least to me). No, don't worry about it. It was an obvious mistake on my part looking back at it now. Not so much a netiquette issue as it is more of an English problem. The only way we can learn from mistakes is knowing t

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread Per Carlson
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 11:37:30PM -0800, Justin Gallardo wrote: > I am preparing a presentation to a group of students on mailing list > netiquette(as you may have guessed by the subject), and thought that maybe I > could use the busiest mailing list I followed as a good source of > information.

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 11:37:30PM -0800, Justin Gallardo wrote: > When replying > to an email, is it proper to leave the original poster in the To: line of > the email, and the CC the list? Or is it better to just send your reply to > the list, not specifically mentioning the original poster. Poss

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread celejar
On 1/10/07, Justin Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] Along the lines of this one may I ask what is the netiquette on thanking someone who helped you find a solution? I naturally would like to thank someone if they managed to resolve the problem for me however I notice a lot of issues on

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread Ben Breslauer
Justin Gallardo wrote: Hey All, I am preparing a presentation to a group of students on mailing list netiquette(as you may have guessed by the subject), and thought that maybe I could use the busiest mailing list I followed as a good source of information. ... Also, if you can think of any

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread Stephen
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 11:37:30PM -0800 or thereabouts, Justin Gallardo wrote: > Hey All, > I am preparing a presentation to a group of students on mailing list > netiquette(as you may have guessed by the subject), and thought that maybe I > could use the busiest mailing list I followed as a good

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread Justin Hartman
On 1/10/07, Scarletdown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2: If someone posts a problem, and gives all the relevant information (hardware configuration, log files, errors, etc), and the only thing you can respond with is "Works for me", then please do everyone a favor and don't even bother posting. A

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread Steve Lamb
Justin Gallardo wrote: > When replying to an email, is it proper to leave the original poster in > the To: line of the email, and the CC the list? I am a staunch believer that if one is replying to a post on the list it should go to the list only. Reply-to-all defeats the very purpose of the

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread Scarletdown
On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 03:02 -0500, Kevin Mark wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 11:37:30PM -0800, Justin Gallardo wrote: > > Hey All, > > I am preparing a presentation to a group of students on mailing list > > netiquette > > (as you may have gue

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread Michael Dominok
Am Mittwoch, den 10.01.2007, 03:02 -0500 schrieb Kevin Mark: > heres a few: > - -remove chunks of the post if possible as its better to not send 50 line > posts each time if you are only replying to 2 lines. > - -if the person is responding to a mailing list, reply to the list only > - -unless the

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-10 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 11:37:30PM -0800, Justin Gallardo wrote: > Hey All, > I am preparing a presentation to a group of students on mailing list > netiquette > (as you may have guessed by the subject), and thought that maybe I could use > the busies

[OFF-TOPIC] Mailing List Netiquette

2007-01-09 Thread Justin Gallardo
Hey All, I am preparing a presentation to a group of students on mailing list netiquette(as you may have guessed by the subject), and thought that maybe I could use the busiest mailing list I followed as a good source of information. I have thought of numerous things to bring up in the presentatio