Charles Curley wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 21:55:05 +
> Chris Green wrote:
>
> > Anyway I have it back now. :-)
>
> Glad to hear it.
>
> For the benefit of future readers, please mark the thread as solved.
>
How do I do that via the Gmane/Usenet gateway?
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Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 19:48:47 +, Chris Green wrote:
> > Charles Curley wrote:
> > > charles@hawk:~$ apt-file search /usr/share/dict/british-english
> > > wbritish: /usr/share/dict/british-english
> > > wbritish-huge:
Charles Curley wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 16:28:51 +
> Chris Green wrote:
>
> > The British English dictionary is missing from
> > /usr/share/dict, all I have is usr/share/dict/american-english.
>
> I'm no expert here, but that suggests that you should hav
to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
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>
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 02:25:06PM +0000, Chris Green wrote:
> > I'm running Debian 12 on my laptop, when I installed it I had UK
> > English but now it has somehow di
nt what do I need to do to get
UK English back? :-)
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y that (the speed) is down to how fast the particular ARM or X86
system is. There's fast ARM systems and slow X86 ones (though I
woiuld guess that the fastest X86 ones are faster than the fastest ARM
ones).
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think it's the 'copiousoutput' bit that means that line
gets selected by default.
The /home/chris/bin/muttview is rather complicated in my case because
I run mutt remotely by ssh and feed the html back through the ssh
connection with a reverse tunnel to view in the browser on the client
machine. If you are running mutt locally then just call your web
browser.
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yway) .bashrc should be
used for settings that are needed for interactive shells whereas
.profile is used for settings that are used by all programs not just
interactive ones.
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to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
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>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 10:22:29AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
> > On 19/12/2024 15:56, Chris Green wrote:
> > > Horses for courses, I enter login passwords/pass
Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 19/12/2024 15:56, Chris Green wrote:
> > Horses for courses, I enter login passwords/passphrases quite frequently
> > (lots of
> > different systems that I ssh to) long, unmemorable, passwords would be
> > useless.
>
> Generate
rd that needs to be **extra** secure I suppose I
could use a written down password.
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do it from a non-existent CD/DVD.
This was a new installation done from an ISO on a USB stick.
Easy to fix if you know what the problem is (and if you like using vi,
as I do).
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John Hasler wrote:
> Chris Green writes:
> > Surely no one "has perfect knowledge of you"! :-) I'm not even sure I
> > have perfect knowledge of myself, in fact I'm pretty sure I don't!
>
> But which things about you can you be sure no one else has
(6^5)^6 or
> about 2^77.
>
But how do you remember it? It's no more memorable than a string of
numbers, in fact I find numbers easier to remember than words.
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dge of you"! :-) I'm not even sure I
have perfect knowledge of myself, in fact I'm pretty sure I don't!
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installed a keylogger, there's also likely
> some kind of screen recording software, so this seems like security
> theater.
>
Yes, I think things like key loggers or even simple 'shoulder surfing'
are the commonest ways of passwords being 'broken'.
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On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 09:31:16AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote:
> Chris Green wrote:
> > I have a program that uses 'real' X bit-mapped fonts. I'm running
> > Debian 12. The default installation provides basic bit-mapped X fonts
> > but on previous systems I
ra
terminus fonts haven't become available.
Is there some other step I need to take to make the fonts available?
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itself). What you meant (and it
took me a while to realise) was that the machine was given to you.
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>
As I understand it the slots in the M2 SSD connector can tell whether
it's SATA or NVMe or both. I have an M2 SSD which I believe will work
either with a SATA connection or with NVMe, and it has two slots in
its connector.
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Karl Vogel wrote:
> Sorry, I'm a bit behind on mail.
>
> On Sun 17 Nov 2024 at 10:50:31 (-0500), Chris Green wrote:
> > I'm running Debian 12 on two systems, on both of them I use large
> > terminal (xfce4) windows quite extensively and I use a light grey
> &g
useful to try
'help ' as you don't then have to wade through the *huge*
bash man page to find what you want.
For example 'help cd' gives a nice man page like summary of how to use
cd.
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n /etc. With a new install I make a backup copy of the
old /etc and refer to it to make similar changes to the new system.
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debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
> Chris Green wrote:
> > Chris Green wrote:
> > > Charles Curley wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:40:05 +
> > > > Chris Green wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > So, do any of the cursor
Chris Green wrote:
> Charles Curley wrote:
> > On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:40:05 +
> > Chris Green wrote:
> >
> > > So, do any of the cursor themes in xcursor-themes actually change the
> > > I-Beam cursor? I've looked at a couple of other sets of c
Charles Curley wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:40:05 +
> Chris Green wrote:
>
> > So, do any of the cursor themes in xcursor-themes actually change the
> > I-Beam cursor? I've looked at a couple of other sets of cursor themes
> > and they don't chang
Felix Miata wrote:
> Chris Green composed on 2024-11-17 15:40 (UTC):
>
> > I'm running Debian 12 on two systems, on both of them I use large
> > terminal (xfce4) windows quite extensively and I use a light grey
> > background in the terminal windows.
>
> >
Dan Ritter wrote:
> Chris Green wrote:
>
> Most terminals offer the ability to change the cursor color when
> the cursor is in them. In the settings for xfterminal, I'm
> pretty sure you can set that. Go look?
>
It's not the terminal cursor so I don't think th
the colour of the I-Beam would
help, it's obviously designed to be most visible on a dark background.
Please note this is the X/mouse cursor I'm talking about, not the text
cursor that shows where you are entering text in a terminal window.
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gt; That has the logic I want.
> *BUT* it searches a local cache.
> I want to search the Debian repository.
apt-file searches the repositories, you'll probably need to install it
as it's not installed by default.
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my case) desktop. All you need to do at the Windows
end is allow access using RDP and it all 'just works'.
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Chris Green wrote:
> I have quite a long ~/.ssh/config file.
>
> I have been trying to rationalise it a bit and share bits that are
> common to several systems. So I have two sections referring to a
> host that I call 'caracal', the first is:-
>
> #
>
says?
There is also another minor ambiguity that I don't quite understand.
Near the top of the man page for 'Host' is says: "If more than one
pattern is provided, they should be separated by whitespace." but in
'PATTERNS' at the bottom it says: "A pattern-list is a comma-separated
list of patterns."
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Anssi Saari wrote:
> Chris Green writes:
>
> > But there is no Python 2 available for Debian 12...
>
> That's just what's in the package manager. Python source code is
> available and from that any Python version can be built. Pyenv is a tool
> which makes
Geert Stappers wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 09, 2024 at 08:02:43AM -0500, songbird wrote:
> > Chris Green wrote:
> > > Thanks to various people here helping me to understand a bit more about
> > > containers and some searching and experimentation I now have a
> > >
ave a reasonable solution using
Distrobox to run a Ubuntu 18.04 image in a container. It's reasonably
'clean' and should last me for a while.
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songbird wrote:
> Lists wrote:
> > On 2024-11-08 16:51, Chris Green wrote:
> >
> >> Well, yes, it sounds like it doesn't it. However, apparently, there
> >> are various things that prevent one from creating a python 2.x virtual
> >> environment on
Lists wrote:
> On 2024-11-08 13:57, Chris Green wrote:
> > songbird wrote:
> >> Chris Green wrote:
> >>> songbird wrote:
> >>>> Chris Green wrote:
> >>>> ...
> >>>>
> >>>>i haven't needed them a
ntinue to 'just work'. :-)
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Florent Rougon wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Le 08/11/2024, Chris Green a écrit:
>
> > No use at all! :-) It's a scanner applet to drive my OKI scanner and
> > I want the output to end up on my working system where I will use it
> > in E-Mail or whatever.
>
> D
songbird wrote:
> Chris Green wrote:
> > songbird wrote:
> >> Chris Green wrote:
> >> ...
> >>
> >> i haven't needed them and also haven't gotten into
> >> them.
> >>
> >>
> >> > I'm particul
songbird wrote:
> Chris Green wrote:
> ...
>
> i haven't needed them and also haven't gotten into
> them.
>
>
> > I'm particularly interested in a way to run (say) Debian Bullseye
> > within my Debian Bookworm system. I'm looking for some
ither backup or
main server) it gets duplicated to the other system by syncthing.
This works perfectly, I can read mail on either system using mutt and
everything looks identical and keeps in step. Syncthing is a very
clever bit of software.
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Todd Zullinger wrote:
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>
> Chris Green wrote:
> > I'm trying to get my mind round the various ways of wrapping/isolating
> > collections of code and programs in Debian (well in any Linux I
>
ap but although
they might be able to do what I'm after they're not quite what I want
and do seem very complex to build. From where I am, running virtualbox
will be (much) simpler.
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Loris Bennett wrote:
> Chris Green writes:
>
> > Andy Smith wrote:
> >> Hi Chris,
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 06, 2024 at 10:54:17PM +, Chris Green wrote:
> >> > I have an OKI scanner which has a neat little linux app for running it
> >
David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 04 Nov 2024 at 17:17:44 (+), Chris Green wrote:
> > I have found how to get it to install, I removed the other (SATA SSD)
> > disk drive. It now boots successfully, phew!
>
> Good.
>
> > I've no idea why that second drive
Xiyue Deng wrote:
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>
> Chris Green writes:
>
[snip]
> >
> > The ideal would be some sort of mini virtualbox type of environment
> > that supports python 2.7.
> >
>
> Using Do
Andy Smith wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> On Wed, Nov 06, 2024 at 10:54:17PM +0000, Chris Green wrote:
> > I have an OKI scanner which has a neat little linux app for running it
> > from a linux desktop. However it hasn't been updated from python 2.7
> > days and I
e sort of mini virtualbox type of environment
that supports python 2.7.
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mp / tail -f /var/log/… / make you wanted to pause to inspect
> > something?
>
> I always use `C-z` for that.
>
Yes, I suppose that works too (if in a rather different way).
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nspect
> something?
>
It's handy if you see a warning message while apt-install (or anything
else) is running, you can stop the output and check whether you need
to do something about it.
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from installing grub/boot, now they're installed the system
boots quite happily with the drive installed.
Very strange! :-)
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gs but that can wait
until tomorrow, I'm worn out watching installations! :-)
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y old (xubuntu) installation across
onto that drive.
I will try putting it back later to see if it breaks the Debian 12
installtion but for the moment I'm just relieved I've got it working
at last!
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install.
> > How would I "Boot the install using legacy BIOS, then manually change
> > the install to use grub-efi", I can't see anywhere in the installation
> > process that would allow me to do this.
>
> That's why I said "manually".
>
>
> Stefan
>
>
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On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 10:16:39AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2024-11-04 at 10:03, Chris Green wrote:
>
> > When I click on a web link in a terminal window I want the link to
> > open in my existing browser window (which is usually on a different
> > workspace)
On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 09:09:31AM -0600, David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 04 Nov 2024 at 12:36:18 (+), Chris Green wrote:
> > This continues from my "Failed Debian 12 install..." thread earlier
> > today.
> >
> > I can't get the USB Installation stic
On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 09:14:09AM -0600, David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 04 Nov 2024 at 11:16:06 (+), Chris Green wrote:
> > ... and if "Launch CSM" is disabled then when I boot from the Debain
> > 12 USB stick I just get dropped into the grub menu and I can't d
want on my old xubuntu installation so I'm
sure it must be configurable somewhere.
I'm running xfce4 and my default browser is vivaldi.
Can anyone point me at where this might be configured?
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hen the system
won't boot.
I don't see how I can opt to either "Always boot using legacy BIOS
mode" or "Always boot using UEFI".
How would I "Boot the install using legacy BIOS, then manually change
the install to use grub-efi", I can't see anywhere in the installation
process that would allow me to do this.
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On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 08:31:41AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
> Chris Green composed on 2024-11-04 12:36 (UTC):
>
> > This continues from my "Failed Debian 12 install..." thread earlier
> > today.
>
> > I can't get the USB Installation stick to boot into
ilar Fujitsu Esprimo Q556 system
goes without a hitch (though that only has SATA drives).
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On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 11:10:03AM +, Chris Green wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 05:34:49AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
> >
> > It's usually a good idea to disable CSM support (legacy/MBR booting), by
> > whatever
> > term your particular UEFI BIOS lab
enable "Launch CSM" and set the "Boot option filter" to
"UEFI only" then on reboot I simply end up in the BIOS diagnostic
program again.
Maybe I should try installing from scratch again with "Launch CSM"
disabled? (I'm glad this is a fairly fast system!)
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On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 05:34:49AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
> Chris Green composed on 2024-11-04 10:03 (UTC):
>
> > I just tried to install Debain 12 onto my Fujitsu Esprimo Q957 system
> > (was running xubuntu previously). I have installed Debian 12 using
> > the sam
On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 10:03:15AM +, Chris Green wrote:
>
> The whole installation ran without any problems but it simply fails to
> boot, I just get a blank black screen with a prompt at the top left
> cormer.
>
I just tried a second time (new install from scratch) and th
vfat 511 6506 2% /boot/efi
Presumably the new/failed install will have a similar configuration
The xubuntu installation worked fine from /dev/nvme0 so I don't think
there's can be anything fundamentally wrong. Are there any BIOS
settings I should check?
Thanks for any/all help.
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Dan Ritter wrote:
> Chris Green wrote:
> > Dan Ritter wrote:
> > Typical! I'm sure I tried that yesterday, but anyway it mounts
> > manually perfectly OK now. So all I'm missing is the automatic
> > mounting.
> >
> > ... and that's j
Dan Ritter wrote:
> Chris Green wrote:
> > I have a Kobo Forma reader (like a Kindle), on xubuntu versions up to
> > 24.04 it automounted without problems. Now I'm running Debian 12 it's
> > failing to automount, I can't mount it manually either.
> >
:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk
Do I need a Windows/DOS driver of some sort? Or has something else gone wrong?
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Michael Kjörling wrote:
> On 28 Oct 2024 14:36 +, from c...@isbd.net (Chris Green):
> > I recently did an 'apt update' and 'apt upgrade' on my bookworm system.
> >
> > In the 'apt upgrade' output there is the following:-
> >
> >
of unwanted information
about pip installed packages.
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Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 26/10/2024 18:08, Chris Green wrote:
> > Well on my previous XFCE installation on xubuntu it certainly did run
> > ~/.profile.
>
> LightDM package in Ubuntu contains an additional script that reads
> ~/.profile (like SDDM in Debian). Some
Michael Kjörling wrote:
> On 26 Oct 2024 10:13 +0100, from c...@isbd.net (Chris Green):
> > I have installed Debian 12 on my Lenovo Thinkpad T470. It all went
> > pretty smoothly but for some reason when I do a GUI login my .profile
> > doesn't get run.
>
> Is
Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
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>
> On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 5:20 AM Chris Green wrote:
>
> > I have installed Debian 12 on my Lenovo Thinkpad T470. It all went
> > pretty smoothly bu
I have installed Debian 12 on my Lenovo Thinkpad T470. It all went
pretty smoothly but for some reason when I do a GUI login my .profile
doesn't get run.
If I ssh into the laptop then .profile does get run.
So what might cause this?
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r local LAN DNS fails (even momentarily)
then it never gets used again and you lose LAN DNS. This has been
argued over endlessly with the systemd developers.
> The DNS servers are the things queried by the resolver (among others,
> like /etc/hosts).
>
> A caching resolver overlaps in function somewhat with a local DNS server,
> perhaps thus the confusion.
>
> And then there are browsers doing DoH. Pure evil, if you ask me.
>
Yes, I quite agree! :-)
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up system, it won't be doing many DNS queries
and not having a DNS cache really won't matter at all. The extra
simplicity is a bonus.
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hat
what one gets on a minimal installation, no explicit DNS server or
resolv management? I'm very happy with this, it's very simple and the
backup system isn't going to make a lot of DNS queries such that it
needs a DNS cache. Have I understood this OK?
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Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 20:16:30 +0100, Chris Green wrote:
> > It works fine though. The /etc/resolv.conf is:-
> >
> > domain zbmc.eu
> > search zbmc.eu
> > nameserver 192.168.1.1
> >
> > which simply means all DN
jeremy ardley wrote:
>
>
> On 20/10/24 01:51, Chris Green wrote:
> > I am using nmap to scan my LAN with:-
> >
> > sudo nmap -sn 192.168.1.0/24
> >
> > It works as expected except that it doesn't show the MAC address for
> > the system
Andy Smith wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sat, Oct 19, 2024 at 06:51:45PM +0100, Chris Green wrote:
> > I am using nmap to scan my LAN with:-
> >
> > sudo nmap -sn 192.168.1.0/24
> >
> > It works as expected except that it doesn't show the MAC addre
.
Nmap done: 256 IP addresses (15 hosts up) scanned in 3.10 seconds
chris$
So, is there any way to get it to tell me my own MAC address?
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On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 10:26:33AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> Chris Green wrote:
> >
> > Hasn't the whole linus/unix world moved to using less instead or more?
>
> If it continues to build and work, there's no reason to discard
> it.
>
> Some people have
re needed) is going to be
> a better solution than changing individual aliases one by one.
Hasn't the whole linus/unix world moved to using less instead or more?
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Chris Green wrote:
> Dan Ritter wrote:
> > Chris Green wrote:
> > > I'd like to force a different password from my own password when I do
> > > 'sudo -i' to get root privilege. However I'm a bit frightened about
> > > what might h
Dan Ritter wrote:
> Chris Green wrote:
> > I'd like to force a different password from my own password when I do
> > 'sudo -i' to get root privilege. However I'm a bit frightened about
> > what might happen if I set 'Defaults rootpw' in the su
stems where,
previously, I've never had a root password).
Would this totally lock me out from becoming root? Would the only way
out be to boot into single user mode to mend things?
... or is visudo clever enough to spot this?
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name field to see what you actually get.
(Obviously do this when no one can see what you're doing).
Alternatively, even sillier, but it has caught me a few times, you
have CAPS/LOCK on when the system boots?
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but it feels a bit like the frog
> preheater.
>
> It seems I'm not the only one:
>
> https://www.jwz.org/blog/2024/10/mozillas-ceo-doubles-down-on-them-being-an-advertising-company-now/
>
>
OP here (refugee from xubunto), I stopped using Firefox before I
decided snap was a 'bad thing'. I use Vivaldi as my main browser now
and have found it pretty good in general.
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Henrik Ahlgren wrote:
> On Thu, 2024-10-10 at 16:45 +0100, Chris Green wrote:
> > My main complaint is snap, which I have removed but I suspect it's
> > going to become steadily more difficult to run Ubuntu without snap.
>
> Welcome to Debian, no forced snap nonsense
Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 03:41:35PM +0100, Chris Green wrote:
>
> 2 - Can I easily make a 'server' type installation without a GUI? This
> > is for a backup system in my garage which is (usually) headless. Even
> > better ca
Michel Verdier wrote:
> On 2024-10-10, Chris Green wrote:
>
> > My only need for 'latest' versions tends to be for a very few things
> > where keeping different systems in step is important. Some are in
> > PPAs (e.g. syncthing) so I get the same version on
On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 09:32:25AM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 15:41:35 +0100
> Chris Green wrote:
>
[snip]
>
> >
> > 3 - Piece of string type question - what versions to install? On the
> > backup system stable is obvious. The other two sy
On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 03:11:34PM +, Michael Kjörling wrote:
> On 10 Oct 2024 15:41 +0100, from c...@isbd.net (Chris Green):
[snip]
Lots of really helpful replies, thank you Michael.
Yes, maybe stable is the way to go for all my systems, at least
initially.
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ing postfix) and my laptop.
I think I'll go for testing on the laptop but I'm not sure whether
stable or testing would be best for the desktop. I tended to keep my
desktop running Ubuntu LTS releases, would I get about the same 'feel'
with Debian stable?
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Is there a way to tell apt to accept expired keys? googling it I only
find either instructions to download updated keys or instructions to
disable GPG verification completely.
In the case I just ran into I was able to find an updated version of the
key with a later expiry but i'd like to know
Steve Litt wrote at 2014-09-29 20:30 -0500:
> On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 17:13:10 -0400
> Stephen Allen wrote:
> > Also, in
> > terms of upgrading a Debian System - Are you aware that prior to each
> > major release, Debian releases a comprehensive upgrade treatise that
> > covers any quirks and describi
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