Re: administration of initscripts

2013-04-17 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 04/16/2013 03:02 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: Lets not pollute this useful thread with systemd It seems a thread about init systems and administration/tweaking of them is the most appropriate place for systemd to be mentioned. Not least that it can solve the problem the OP had. It should not be

Re: administration of initscripts

2013-04-17 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 04/16/2013 11:55 AM, Thilo Six wrote: Hello Michael, Excerpt from Michael Biebl: -- -- + dropping human readable textfiles in favour of c binary code, which makes it needless more complex to debug the whole show. That's non-sense. systemd unit files are text-files in ini-like format and

Re: administration of initscripts

2013-04-16 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 04/16/2013 04:33 AM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: + dropping human readable textfiles in favour of c binary code, which makes it needless more complex to debug the whole show. That's non-sense. systemd unit files are text-files in ini-like format and much more readable then shell scripts with all th

Re: administration of initscripts

2013-04-15 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 04/15/2013 07:13 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 15.04.2013 21:35, schrieb Thilo Six: + dropping human readable textfiles in favour of c binary code, which makes it needless more complex to debug the whole show. That's non-sense. systemd unit files are text-files in ini-like format and much more

Re: administration of initscripts

2013-04-15 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 04/15/2013 05:02 AM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: I have been using Debian for many years now. In all of that time I have never wanted to "manage" init scripts. I always wonder. What are people trying to do? Hi Bob, For an example of where one will want to "manage" the init scripts, take a look

Re: dual-boot: writing to windows partition?

2013-04-14 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 04/14/2013 09:04 AM, Charles Blair wrote: Is there a safe way to write, from linux to the windows part of a dual-boot system? Assuming the version of Windows is XP or better: NTFS-3G can mount a Windows filesystem read-write with no issue. Conrad -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-u

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 04/09/2013 06:55 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: (snip) Why does Debian by default have the "iced" Mozillas? Because they're the only distribution that cares about the free software zealotry enough to comply with the Firefox trademark guideline? Just spitballing there. Most people consider firefo

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-08 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 04/08/2013 10:07 PM, Joel Roth wrote: On Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 04:49:40AM +, Dirk wrote: http://i.imgur.com/6Oja0bm.png https://boards.4chan.org/g/res/32881623 I wondered about this. Looking at one example: D-Bus, with which I was minimally acquainted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Bus

Re: has your squeeze ever crashed?

2013-03-13 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 03/13/2013 12:19 PM, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Yaro Kasear wrote: On 03/13/2013 10:53 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Long Wind wrote: linux is stable, or is it? flash player Linux is stable and flash player isn't Linux, flash player development for Linux alrea

Re: has your squeeze ever crashed?

2013-03-13 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 03/13/2013 10:53 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Long Wind wrote: linux is stable, or is it? flash player Linux is stable and flash player isn't Linux, flash player development for Linux already is dropped, there will be no future versions for Linux. If people want Microsoft/Apple, regarding to A

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 03/04/2013 08:48 PM, Doug wrote: On 03/04/2013 09:07 PM, William Ivanski wrote: On 04-03-2013 22:39, Yaro Kasear wrote: When (U)EFI completely replaces BIOS THEN DOS will be completely dead. Right now it's just a horribly obsolete OS used by people afraid of kernels or enterprises

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 03/04/2013 08:07 PM, William Ivanski wrote: On 04-03-2013 22:39, Yaro Kasear wrote: When (U)EFI completely replaces BIOS THEN DOS will be completely dead. Right now it's just a horribly obsolete OS used by people afraid of kernels or enterprises that refuse to upgrade some of

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 03/04/2013 03:26 PM, Joe wrote: On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 14:54:50 -0600 Yaro Kasear wrote: You can still run a very successful desktop system on Linux without installing Xorg server at any point. The only command line that hasn't modernized even a little bit is DOS. I hate to be the o

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 03/04/2013 02:44 PM, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Em 04-03-2013 17:09, Mark Filipak escreveu: On 2013/3/4 2:35 PM, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: So you cannot reproduce the bug, right? I didn't try, João Luis. For you, I will. No, not for me. This list is archived and new Debian

Re: Not for me.

2013-03-04 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 03/04/2013 09:59 AM, Mark Filipak wrote: Thank you all. I've learned a lot here. I did manage to get Debian installed, though it was through a side door that was opened by Debian Live. I'm grateful for that. I will continue to look for a Linux with which I can live. In private messages wi

Re: [OT] re: trolls and operating systems [was: Install failed - let's start again, without bogus assumptions, please.]

2013-03-02 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 03/02/2013 03:13 AM, Joe wrote: On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 23:59:21 -0600 Yaro Kasear wrote: If he is a troll, then why are we still feeding him? Because we're all hoping to pick up some scraps ourselves. It's rare that even this kind of discussion produces absolutely nothing of

Re: [OT] re: trolls and operating systems [was: Install failed - let's start again, without bogus assumptions, please.]

2013-03-01 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 03/01/2013 11:57 PM, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Windows-NT 3.5 was probably the finest OS ever written Let us see who will be the first to bite the troll :) Do you really want to start a "debate" on best OS ever? Tal

Re: 10 top myths of debian

2013-03-01 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 03/01/2013 05:19 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 01 March 2013 22:33:37 Dick Thomas wrote: Debian is always out of date and even the "stable" is unsecure as its backported fixes rather than updates Sorry to answer piecemeal. Debian stable starts to go out of date as soon as it is released

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-06 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 02/05/2013 01:44 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Dienstag, 5. Februar 2013 schrieb darkestkhan: Mixing works out of the box here too - some integrated Intel audio chipset. AFAIK in recent versions of ALSA / distributions shipping it, by default dmix is automatically configured and used. On

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-06 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 02/05/2013 09:50 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote: Those of you who don't use PA, how do you do network streaming? That is my usecase for PA as it's handy to start a stream on my desktop and send it to the Myth box for playback through the amp. I can do that from the laptop if I choose as well. The

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-03 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 02/03/13 08:28, Carl Fink wrote: > So PulseAudio continues to be buggy to the point of infuriation. Developers, > after years of work, have signally failed to fix it. > > Is eSound still usable? Mabye ALSA? Anything? Just get rid of PA (Unless you're using GNOME 3) and just use ALSA barebones (O

Re: Gnome 3 Fallback Mode forked

2013-01-20 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 01/20/2013 06:35 AM, Mark Allums wrote: Slashdot reported that SolusOS has announced a fork of the Gnome 3 Fallback Mode. It is designed to bring back the mode that was cut from Gnome 3 with version 3.8. Like the original fallback mode, it uses gtk3 and does not require hardware acceleration

Re: What are some common problems when using Debian GNU / LINUX?

2013-01-19 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 01/20/2013 12:26 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 05:59:42 +0100, Yaro Kasear wrote: Even the "non-free" stuff provided for Debian in their official repos or in many third party repos is perfectly safe and usable. non-free provided by Debian is safe regarding to t

Re: What are some common problems when using Debian GNU / LINUX?

2013-01-19 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 01/19/2013 06:55 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 01:39:55 +0100, Yaro Kasear wrote: Linux system I'd recommend Arch instead. Which I don't call a rolling release. Arch was my preferred distro. If you have a distro with releases you can make hard transitions. For

Re: What are some common problems when using Debian GNU / LINUX?

2013-01-19 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 01/19/2013 05:07 PM, ventur...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello: Please provide some examples of common problems when using Debian GNU / LINUXso that I may more effectively gain a better handle on the trouble-shooting process. Thank you! Sincerely, Herschel Maybe the primary problem comes with

Re: how is debian filling /dev/

2013-01-15 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 01/15/2013 02:18 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: Michael Biebl wrote: Am 15.01.2013 09:04, schrieb Bob Proulx: Maroš Žilka wrote: device files are creatied by /dev/MAKEDEV but in my debian stable That documentation is the classic legacy way. It has since been completely obsoleted. The new way is w

Re: Is this OK in C++ and C?

2012-12-31 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 12/31/2012 12:33 PM, Zbigniew Komarnicki wrote: Is this OK or is this a bug, when the wariable 'n' is initializing by negative value? There no any warning. Is this normal? I know that value -5 is converted to unsigned but probably this should by printed a warning, when this is a constant value

Re: admin password?

2012-12-29 Thread Yaro Kasear
If that option doesn't work out, you can usually grab any old Linux live media of the same architecture as what you have installed and set up a chroot onto your install, which will get you root access onto your installed system. Then you just run passwd to change it. On 12/29/2012 11:58 PM, Z

Re: Debian multimedia repository

2012-08-01 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 08/01/2012 11:06 PM, Gary Dale wrote: On 01/08/12 11:52 PM, Yaro Kasear wrote: On 08/01/2012 02:55 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 01 aug 12, 22:30:52, Teemu Likonen wrote: Titanus Eramius [2012-08-01 21:18:03 +0200] wrote: My 2 cents on this is, that once packages is installed from

Re: Debian multimedia repository

2012-08-01 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 08/01/2012 02:55 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 01 aug 12, 22:30:52, Teemu Likonen wrote: Titanus Eramius [2012-08-01 21:18:03 +0200] wrote: My 2 cents on this is, that once packages is installed from Debian Multimedia it's very hard to go back to stable. But if one keeps using Debian Mul

Re: Debian multimedia repository

2012-08-01 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 08/01/2012 02:18 PM, Titanus Eramius wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 21:20:59 +0300 Teemu Likonen wrote: Gary Dale [2012-08-01 13:55:09 -0400] wrote: Agreed. I would also advise people to stay away from debian-multimedia. It's packages are incompatible with standard Debian packages in many cas

Re: [OT] Intelectual Property Law [WAS: Re: what graphic card to buy?]

2012-07-31 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 07/31/2012 01:42 PM, Celejar wrote: On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 10:30:50 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 19 iul 12, 22:50:25, Celejar wrote: Quite true - and completely irrelevant to my point. I don't deny that money can be made with FLOSS, just that it's pointless to try to sell copies of one'

Re: what graphics card to choose

2012-07-30 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 07/30/2012 03:25 AM, Gary Dale wrote: On 30/07/12 03:04 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote: hvw59601 care2.com> writes: Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:41:00 -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote: Then choose one that you like (because of price/design) and then check about its current support st

Re: systemd

2012-07-29 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 07/29/2012 03:27 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2012-07-29 at 16:09 -0400, Tom H wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sun, 2012-07-29 at 14:05 -0400, Tom H wrote: /media/mount_point switched to /run/media/user_name/mount_point It's not an Arch change. It's an u

Re: gnome doesn't know monitor size under nvidia x server

2012-07-28 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 07/28/2012 04:14 PM, Robert Holtzm wrote: On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 03:43:15PM -0500, Yaro Kasear wrote: .snip... Since the official (And proprietary.) nVidia driver has no support for KMS, this sort of feature never "natively" works in a desktop environ

Re: gnome doesn't know monitor size under nvidia x server

2012-07-28 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 07/28/2012 02:41 PM, Gary Dale wrote: On 28/07/12 03:24 PM, Britton Kerin wrote: I installed all the nvidia driver kernel xserver packages, but now it seems that gnome doesn't know what size the monitor is anymore (all fonts way too large etc.) System->Preferences->Monitors looks like the at