Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

2014-01-16 Thread Ma Xiaojun
Yet another read: http://www.g4ilo.com/linux.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cagvx7uu0egsy4p__-k8c9pzvrsinlz7wpgjmdqf0_nabafa...@mail.gmail.com

Re: update flash

2014-01-16 Thread Ma Xiaojun
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Flash#Vendor_dependence So you are so "freedom loving", why don't you abandon Flash-using-website altogether? Is it so hard? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subj

Re: update flash

2014-01-16 Thread Ma Xiaojun
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 1:42 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > My primary browser. Same problem whether using Adobe Flash or Google's > version. In fact, if using Google's, those "problem" sites don't even > recognize it, and say "You need to install Flash." Contact Google for support. > The OS is n

Re: update flash

2014-01-15 Thread Ma Xiaojun
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > FWIW: Adobe says that 11.2.202 is the last and final Linux version of > Flash. Although, they will continue backported security updates. > Windows/OSX version is up to 12.something-or-other, IIRC. And I'm > beginning to run across sites t

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

2014-01-15 Thread Ma Xiaojun
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Robert Brockway wrote: > The whole question of whether Linux is 'ready for the desktop' is specious. > This statement presumes that everyone has the same desktop requirements > which they demonstratably do not. > > I've been using Linux on the desktop continuously

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

2014-01-15 Thread Ma Xiaojun
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Jarth Berilcosm wrote: > Looking back on using Linux as a desktop OS for almost 15 years we've > seen tons of features added but not much in terms of 'bite'. Well deserved for its always crappy state throughout history. Windows was very crappy internally (conside

Re: L2TP VPN configuration

2013-12-27 Thread Ma Xiaojun
FYI, Android uses an entirely different stack to handle PPTP and L2TP; it even involves new kernel modules. You may refer to my mail here: http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/ce-android-mainline/2013-December/000114.html For "ordinary" (GNU/)Linux distribution like Debian, one can try to us