Re: Any implications for default Trixie intall? - was [Re: Security: Be careful with StarDict!]

On Tue, Aug 05, 2025 at 08:22:12 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > I'll use netinst, accepting all defaults. > > > > I thought you used mate? > > I do. But I essentially think of MATE as Gnome done right. > My two questions still apply. > > To be explicit, "Does MATE have any of the vulnerabili

Re: Security: Be careful with StarDict!

On Tue, Aug 05, 2025 at 09:43:03 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > I agree with Vincent that without *explicit* user consent applications > should not send to remote servers what they gathered by listening for > changes of primary selection or clipboard. Even if upstream packages (source > code, flatpak,

Re: Nedit - forcing readable font size

On Sat, Aug 02, 2025 at 09:54:09 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > -font font, -fn font > > Font for text being edited. Font for menus and dialogs can > > be set with -xrm "*fontList:font". > > -xrm "*fontList:font". I'm assuming you're asking how to figure o

Re: serial console

On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 08:45:19 -0400, Dan Purgert wrote: > On Jul 31, 2025, mick.crane wrote: > > I assumed a serial console was a device with a screen and keyboard. > > If you're thinking of things like the VT-100; I believe that the > physical device would be referred to as a "Terminal" (which

Re: Please, don't let sudo be auto-removable

On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 11:16:38 +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Lee (HE12025-07-30): > > It would be helpful if autoremove SORTED the list of packages to be > > removed so that other, important packages, wouldn't be hidden among > > all the python3-whatever packages. > > Oh, yes, excellent idea, l

Re: serial console

On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 01:38:15 +0100, mick.crane wrote: > serial console/ parallel is likely me not understanding terminology. > These Raspberry Pis, Arduinos with the connection with all the pins, what > protocol is that expecting? A serial cable usually has a 9-pin (DB-9) connector on each end

Re: serial console

On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 00:59:02 +0100, mick.crane wrote: > When people talk about a serial console they are talking about connecting a > Debian PC to a device with a parallel, wired cable to a parallel port or an > adaptor on a PC and emulating this console thing with software? > Like a telnet con

Re: Suggestion for Improving Debian Workstation Builds

On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 14:30:56 +0200, Oleg Goncharov wrote: > One of the things that surprised me is that Debian ships with components > like ssh and related services (such as sslh) by default, Huh? What are you talking about? An ssh server is *not* installed by default, and I don't even know

Re: How to ask a question?

On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 03:29:25 -0400, Lee Winter wrote: > Nope! > DASH is known to be pure garbage. > -- Lee [citation needed] A quick Google search shows endorsements by U.S. News and World Report, the Mayo Clinic, and Harvard's School of Public Health.

Re: Suitable-to-task Debian spreadsheet software

On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 10:44:36 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > [1] > https://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media/file/TFP-2021-Disaggregated-Market-Basket.xlsx I was unable to download this with wget -- it just hung for a while. But when I pasted the URL directly into a web browser, the b

Re: How to ask a question?

On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 07:33:36 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Now I have to relearn how to extract specific content from spreadsheets. > Something I haven't done in close to two decades. What I usually ended up doing was opening the spreadsheet in Libre Office, then saving it as a "CSV" (comma-s

Email envelope headers (was Re: Please help me get out for my holiday break)

On Sat, Jul 26, 2025 at 08:02:58 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > (I'm not the OP) Oh, that's interesting -- I've always had trouble with the > term "Envelope" address, and looking at the headers in the email I'm replying > to, I see that the first header is "Delivered-To:" and > there > is

Re: Stop udisks2 mounting my partitions?

On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 23:16:19 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > all I find are options to control *how* > it's mounted (and to give the right to some users, but `root` always > has the rights, anyway). That last bit is not always true. There are several types of mounts where some non-UID-0 user h

Re: Restating question "How to manipulate PDF documents in Debian?"

On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 13:17:52 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm running Debian 12.8 and package install failed with > > Failed to fetch > > http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/o/openjdk-17/openjdk-17-jre There's no version number on that file. Looks weird. Maybe tha

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Mon, Jul 21, 2025 at 13:37:33 +0200, Michael wrote: > iirc, i think i have read in your wiki to NOT have variable names with > leading underscores... If you restrict yourself to never using variable names beginning with _ in normal situations, then that gives you the opportunity to use it as a

Re: Debian 13 Trixie mysql_secure_installation

On Mon, Jul 21, 2025 at 06:57:41 -0400, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > On Mon, Jul 21, 2025 at 6:45 AM wrote: > > > Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > > All, > > > > > > Does anyone know what package provides the mysql_secure_installation > > > script on Debian 13 Trixie? > > > > google debian mys

Re: Bookworm libc6 (and libc6:i386) update deleted ld-linux and cannot proceed.

On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 10:52:36 -0400, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 7:23 AM Max Nikulin wrote: > > > On 20/07/2025 13:22, Tom Dial wrote: > > > unable to install new version of '/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2': No > > > such file or directory > > > > try: > "sudo apt up

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 09:02:37 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > I have no idea to which degree the following is portable: > > strip_zeroes() { zeroes="${1%%[!0]*}"; printf '%s\n' "${1#"$zeroes"}"; } That's POSIX compliant. It's very similar to the first examples on

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Sat, Jul 19, 2025 at 10:14:49 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > A mathematical trick may be used instead even if external processes like sed > are considered as undesired overhead > > for i in 0 09 008 59 080; do i1=1$i; i2=2$i; echo "$i = $((2*i1 - i2))"; > done > > 0 = 0 > 09 = 9 > 008 = 8 > 59 =

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 18:59:06 -0700, Michael Paoli wrote: > echo $(( $(echo 07:08:09 | sed -e 's/^0*\([0-9]\)/3600 * \1 + > /;s/:0*\([0-9]:\)/60 * \1/;s/:0*\([0-9]\)$/ + \1/;') )) This one is missing some * operators. You're only capturing a single digit in each segment, but there could be two

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 13:16:17 -0700, Michael Paoli wrote: > E.g.: > printf 01:02:03 | (IFS=: read h m s; printf '%s\n' $(( $((h * 3600)) + > $((m * 60)) + $s ))) You still need to strip leading zeroes. hobbit:~$ echo 01:08:09 | (IFS=: read h m s; printf '%s\n' $(( $((h * 3600)) + > $((m * 60))

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 12:34:36 +0200, Michael wrote: > On Friday, July 18, 2025 12:52:03 AM CEST, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > As far as the code goes, I'd rather start from scratch. > > just out of curiosity: > > i don't like fix global return values (like $r in yo

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 00:31:17 +0100, Alain D D Williams wrote: > On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 01:21:08AM +0200, lbrt...@tutamail.com wrote: > > OK, the Math is right, but the assumptions made by date aren't smart. I > > "overtested" your one liner with the kinds of input you would grab using jq > >

Re: Is there a POSIX compliant way of turning a "HH:MM:SS" formatted string to seconds? ...

On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 23:39:02 +0200, lbrt...@tutamail.com wrote: > Video durations are formatted in youtube's .info.json files as "HH:MM:SS"; OK. > _HHMMSS="19:09" > _HHMMSS="19:08" > IFS=$(echo -en "\n\b"); _SEKNDS_AR=($(echo "${_HHMMSS}" | tr ':' '\n')); > _SEKNDS_ARL=${#_SEKNDS_AR[@]} You

Re: Where did my character selection tool go?

On Sat, Jul 12, 2025 at 23:47:15 -0500, David Wright wrote: > You can write your own sequences, so that they are meaningful to you. > For example: > : "𝄫" U1d12b # MUSICAL SYMBOL > DOUBLE FLAT > : "𝄪" U1d12a # MUSICAL SYMBOL > DOUBLE SHARP >

Re: Where did my character selection tool go?

On Sat, Jul 12, 2025 at 09:51:19 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 12/07/2025 05:24, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > 1) Configure a Compose key, then pressto make ° > > > > 2) Do a web search for something like "UTF-8 degree symbol" > > grep -i degree /usr

Re: Where did my character selection tool go?

On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 20:44:13 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > I only noticed because I just needed a 'degrees' symbol. I've used > the character map accessory for years and would really miss it if I > can't get it back. I can't help you with your Desktop Environment accessories, but here are a cou

Re: a bug on moving files with "Files" in Gnome environment

On Fri, Jul 11, 2025 at 13:39:44 +0100, mick.crane wrote: > When moving files on the same disk impression is, at least with dragging in > the desktop file manager, it seems instant. Whereas to another disk seems to > make new files. I guess that when on the same disk the OS changes only > something

Re: Anyone newly interested in Debian - you're welcome here

On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 19:34:58 +, Andy Smith wrote: > once alternatives are provided and > decently supported, people actively choose not to use email. *Some* people may choose that. The rest of us will stay here.

Re: Bugs?

On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 07:13:48 -0400, Lee Winter wrote: > [A1] is that netinstall left /etc/sudoers missing and /etc/sudoers.d/README > empty -- there are no users at all. But that README file contains a strong > recommendation for using visudo, which no longer exists. > > [A2] is that visudo is

Re: Linux machine hit by ransomware

On Wed, Jul 09, 2025 at 23:23:29 -0700, David Christensen wrote: > On 7/9/25 22:14, Rick Macdonald wrote: > > In 30 years I've never seen an isolated network. May I ask how this > > might be done? > > Assuming an Internet gateway with 4 LAN ports and Wi-Fi, and a server with 1 > LAN port, turn off

Re: Where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in?

On Wed, Jul 09, 2025 at 23:08:05 +0200, hw wrote: > where does pure-ftpd store files when anonymous logs in? > > Even its man page is missing in Debian. According to packages.debian.org, the package "pure-ftpd" depends on the package "pure-ftpd-common", and the latter has all the man pages:

Re: A more minimal task-*-desktop

On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 18:15:42 +0200, Federico Kircheis wrote: > Oh; i was not aware of that, is it specific for apt? > man apt does not seem to mention it. > I'll try it out. Mine says: install, reinstall, remove, purge (apt-get(8)) Performs the requested action on one or mor

Re: more problems with su and sudo

On Mon, Jun 30, 2025 at 21:36:14 -0700, David Christensen wrote: > The next time you log in, sudo(8) should work: > > $ sudo pia-linux-3.6.1-08339.run Even if sudo works, that command won't. It would need to be something like: sudo chmod +x pia-linux-3.6.1-08339.run sudo ./pia-linux-3.6

Re: tput help

On Sat, Jun 28, 2025 at 18:28:31 -0400, Eben King wrote: > A while back I wrote a script to take the output of dd and make a graph of > the transfer rate. It worked, but since it scrolls up I wasn't happy with > it. > > In a bash script, I'm trying to use tput commands to delete column 1 (tput >

Re: Please, don't reply to spam -- much less on list [was: ግěcůžላኣዝዩ]

On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 13:46:40 -, Greg wrote: > On 2025-06-27, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > To be clear, what we're talking about here is what mutt does when you > > press the "b" key. It queues up a message for delivery, where the > > Bounce can

Re: Please, don't reply to spam -- much less on list [was: ግěcůžላኣዝዩ]

On Fri, Jun 27, 2025 at 10:58:54 +0900, John Crawley wrote: > The Debian Wiki has these suggestions for how to deal with spam: > https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/ListArchiveSpam#nominate The fourth option there says: * Use your mail client's bounce/resend/redirect functionality to send

Re: SystemD ProtectSystem=full still can write File in /etc outside of WorkingDir or WritePath

On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 11:33:02 +0200, Philipp Ewald wrote: > is it normal that a Service started with systemd still can write files > ouitside it working dir? Depends on the settings in the unit file. Write restrictions are not the default, but there are settings you can use which will cause w

Re: Please, don't reply to spam -- much less on list [was: ግěcůžላኣዝዩ]

On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 16:33:38 -0700, Dan Hitt wrote: > On Tue, Jun 24, 2025 at 3:09 AM wrote: > > if you want to do everyone a favour, you bounce the original message > > to to help the list spam team train > > their filters (I did). > This like sounds like good and important advice, but how

Re: Trixie xorg crash (was: Trixie hangs during boot after upgrade)

On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 23:59:11 +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > It seems that symlinks have been missing: > > root@h370:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu# ln -s libGL.so libGL.so.1 > root@h370:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu# ln -s libEGL.so libEGL.so.1 > root@h370:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu# > > cures the i

Re: unixodbc-bin is not available - what to do?

On Sat, Jun 21, 2025 at 15:37:38 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > I'm trying to install the libraries and drivers required to use a > sqlite3 database with libreoffice writer. However when I try to > install the required packages I get an error:- > > root@t470# apt install unixodbc-dev unixodbc-bin

Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 22:15:21 +0200, 🦓 wrote: > Gisteren schreef li...@nodatagrabbing.com: > > I can't tell you if it is the "best" way to do things, but I have always > > just deleted the entries associated with the previous release when I > > upgraded distros. I never have noticed any disadvan

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 18:20:37 +0100, Tim Woodall wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jun 2025, The Wanderer wrote: > > > Personally, what I do in response to such a prompt is to have it show me > > a diff of the two files, and then if the changes involve losing any > > settings want to retain, I have it give m

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 12:12:09 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Unfortunately, I cannot find a Debian specific article on > configuration directories. However, Red Hat has "Linux configuration: > Understanding *.d directories in /etc," >

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:40:59 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:30 AM wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:06:51AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:37 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > >

Re: [SOLVED] Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 10:15:47 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > SSH config files are located in /etc, too. But admins are expected to > make changes to /etc/ssh/sshd_config.d/, and not /etc/ssh/sshd_config. That's definitely false.

Re: old entries in sources.list?

On Thu, Jun 19, 2025 at 16:57:11 +0200, Hans wrote: > Which of one I should not do? The advice is only to include sources for the current stable release, and not for any older releases. > I fear, that when deleting any entries of the previous release, it might want > to deinstall packages ("app

Re: Run script after package install, update

On Sun, Jun 15, 2025 at 12:14:30 -0500, David Wright wrote: > Well, I just plagiarised /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99needrestart: > > $ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99redogrub > DPkg::Post-Invoke {"test -x /var/local/bin/redo && /var/local/bin/redo || > true"; }; > $ > > and wrote /var/local/bin/redo

Re: Run script after package install, update?

On Sun, Jun 15, 2025 at 11:07:41 -0400, Boyan Penkov wrote: > So ultimately, my problem is addressed; however, the larger question > is still open: is there in fact a straightforward way for a user, not > the package maintainer, to tell the package management system: "If and > only if your operatio

Re: tbird problem

On Fri, Jun 06, 2025 at 20:34:29 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > What is fastfetch? I haven't the executable or the manpage for it Open a web browser. Make sure focus is on the URL bar. Type "manpages.debian.org/" and then put the name of a man page you think might exist. For example, you could ty

Re: does debian-12.11.0 support adding i386 architecture

On Fri, Jun 06, 2025 at 07:23:57 +0200, Mgr. Janusz Chmiel wrote: > Dear developers and users, > Please, is it still possible to add The I386 architecture by typing as Root > dpkg --add-architecture I386 > while working with debian-12.11.0? The architecture's name is "i386" with a lowercase "i".

Re: tbird problem

On Wed, Jun 04, 2025 at 11:49:21 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I'm using tbird 139, and it has grown vertically to expect the full screen > > of 1040 lines, meaning the bottom 2 tect lines that tbird uses for advirory > > msgs of attachment showing, are covered by the pager list and other such >

Re: tbird problem

On Tue, Jun 03, 2025 at 22:05:33 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > On 03/06/2025 21:27, gene heskett wrote: > > I'm using tbird 139, and it has grown vertically to expect the full > > screen of 1040 lines, meaning the bottom 2 tect lines that tbird uses > > for advirory msgs of attachment showing, are c

Re: apt: WTH is a "second pre-image resistance"?

On Mon, Jun 02, 2025 at 13:49:05 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > Hi folks, > > trying Trixie "apt update" shows a warning about my local repo > (managed by reprepro on Bookworm) I don't know how to handle: > > Warning: http://debian.example.com/debian/dists/trixie-backports/InRelease: > Policy wil

Re: parallel gnu and parallel from moreutils

On Sun, Jun 01, 2025 at 19:43:39 +0200, Federico Kircheis wrote: > moreutils should also provide /usr/bin/parallel.moreutils, even if gnu > parallel is not installed(!) > > gnu parallel should also provide /usr/bin/parallel.gnu I agree with you. However, in order to make anything happen, you nee

Re: Disable upgrades on grub

On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 18:38:31 +, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > On Thu, 29 May 2025, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 17:54:00 +, xuser wrote: > >> How to configure apt to not install upgrades for grub? > > > > echo "PKGN

Re: Disable upgrades on grub

On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 17:54:00 +, xuser wrote: > How to configure apt to not install upgrades for grub? echo "PKGNAME hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections Do that for each package you want to put on hold.

Re: How to set umask for apache2

On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 15:34:39 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > ... and I have set UMask in the systemd apache2.service:- > > chris$ more /etc/systemd/system/apache2.service.d/override.conf > [service] > UMask=0002 Shouldn't that square-bracket header be capitalized? [Service] instead o

Re: nmcli connection edit introduces duplicate connection

On Tue, May 27, 2025 at 19:06:22 -0700, accipiter wrote: > At first it didn't seem to do any good, mis-replicating the eth0 connection > when I killed that particular eth0 using its UUID. But then I tried killing > *both* eth0 connections, then trying to re-edit / create the eth0 connection > - an

Re: nmcli connection edit introduces duplicate connection

On Mon, May 26, 2025 at 20:46:37 -0700, accipiter wrote: > On 5/26/25 6:20 PM, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Mon, 26 May 2025 12:20:22 -0700 > > accipiter wrote: > > > > > it showed not 1 but 2 entries for eth0 - though with different UUIDs. > > > > If you are using Network Manager, you should no

Re: Restoring fvwm key bindings

On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 15:02:56 +0200, Detlef Vollmann wrote: > And I have to correct myself: it's not starting firefox that causes > the loss of the key bindings, but a specific web site. > It's my internet banking site, and it only happens after I login, > so I can't give you a a test page. > >

Re: Restoring fvwm key bindings

On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 13:33:58 +0200, Detlef Vollmann wrote: > Key LeftA SM Scroll -100 +0 > Key Right A SM Scroll +100 +0 > Key Up A SM Scroll +0 -100 > Key DownA SM Scroll +0 +100 I don't know about these *specific* key combina

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

On Wed, May 21, 2025 at 11:47:04 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Greg Wooledge [2025-05-20 16:49:28] wrote: > > On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 16:38:16 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> In contrast my proposition means that when a new release happens we just > >> get a new set

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 16:38:16 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > In contrast my proposition means that when a new release happens we just > get a new set of pages, which start empty (this part can be done fully > automatically) and can be filled progressively, which should be much > more amenable to

Re: is there a bug in cp command ?

On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 19:21:50 +0200, uw...@online.de wrote: > I solved the Problem for me by copy the File /usr/bin/cp from Debian 11 to > /usr/bin/cp2 on Debian 12 > > Now i can run "cp2 -ax / /mnt" and it works like expected. > > "cp -ax / /mnt" with original debian 12 cp brings error on thi

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 11:04:58 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > FWIW I didn't find "keep it up to date" useful feedback. > > Here's my view: replace each current page with a list of "per Debian > version" pages. So, when someone edits a page, they don't edit the > "DebianBootstrap" page, but th

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 14:21:32 -, Greg wrote: > On 2025-05-20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 09:41:21 -0400, Lee wrote: > >> Yes, keeping the wikis up to date for the current release would be > >> nice. But there isn't staff dedicat

Re: Arch Wiki (was Re: "Tips"?)

On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 09:41:21 -0400, Lee wrote: > Yes, keeping the wikis up to date for the current release would be > nice. But there isn't staff dedicated to keeping everything current, > so how about having a "last updated" or "last reviewed" date on each > page so people would have an idea

Re: Checking for a mount in a shell script (Was: Re: Preparing for Debian 13)

On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 19:51:04 -0400, Lee wrote: > On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 4:51 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 12:47:25PM -0400, Default User wrote: > > > Since I know almost no shell scripting, the rsync usb drive A > > > to usb drive B copy is done with a simpl

Re: What file does Linux use to...

On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 10:35:37 -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > If you mean "what file contains the IP address and hostname of my own > server?": It depends whether you use NetworkManager to configure networking > or the older style. > > In the older style the config file goes in /etc/sysconfig

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

On Sat, May 17, 2025 at 23:09:18 -0500, David Wright wrote: > It may be installed, but I've always had to use: > > [ -f /etc/bash_completion ] && . /etc/bash_completion # Use bash-completion > if available > > in order for it to work: > > $ grep -A8 'bash completion' /etc/bash.bashrc > #

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

On Sat, May 17, 2025 at 16:37:07 +0300, Henrik Ahlgren wrote: > and it is quite rare to SSH into localhost. It's not something I do on a daily basis, but I've done it several times, because it's an excellent way to test various things, such as changes to your dot files, sshd configuration, PAM con

Re: ssh, where do the host come from

On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 16:39:15 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > > when i type ssh and two tabs i get a list of host > > numeric and names > > where do they come from > > Assuming you are using bash (or another shell that does TAB > completion) I think it's probably ju

Re: Re (2): Shell function.

On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 08:05:50 -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > Currently have this. > ev () { /usr/bin/evince "$@" & } > > DISPLAY is set in .bashrc now. Not needed in trivial functions. Why are you setting the DISPLAY variable? That sounds like a really bad idea. Or, at best, it's only vi

Re: Problem with VLC H 264 after having installed ISPY package [SOLVED]

On Tue, May 13, 2025 at 09:38:39 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2025 at 11:32:20AM +0200, Bernard wrote: > > Hi to Everyone, > > > > This being done, I first thought that I could possibly succeed in just > > upgrading my Buster system to its last update, which I did, successfull

Re: Internet connection in rescue mode

On Fri, May 02, 2025 at 15:31:18 +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > rhkra...@gmail.com (HE12025-05-02): > > What lesson is that? > > Never run a script with any privileges unless you know exactly what it > does. Or more generally: "Third-party package repositories are often not as high-quality as Deb

Re: gnome-shell: can't change PATH at gnome-shell level

On Fri, May 02, 2025 at 12:19:52 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > I suggest to inspect PATH for each parent process PID in the tree reported > by > > ps xwf > > e.g. with proper PID number (single line) > > while IFS='' read -r -d ''; do if [[ "$REPLY" = PATH* ]]; then echo > "$REPLY"; break;

Re: sending short emails

On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 15:21:26 -0400, Eben King wrote: > I guess I don't currently have an MTA. > > eben@cerberus:~$ type sendmail > bash: type: sendmail: not found > 1 The sendmail program (or symlink) lives in /usr/sbin which is probably not in your PATH as user eben. (There's also a histori

Re: Starting Debian 12 in run level 3

On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 13:06:44 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > IIRC, it was the same in Unix Version 7, which Kernighan — or was it > Johnson or Richie? — said was an improvement on all of its successors. > And in BSD and SunOS and Solaris.

Re: Starting Debian 12 in run level 3

On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 13:30:18 -0500, David Wright wrote: > Is the break in communication between Grub and the kernel, or > the kernel and systemd? I'm not best qualified to answer that, > because my graphical.target.wants includes solely udisks2.service, > and I suspect that I don't even depend

Re: Starting Debian 12 in run level 3

On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 10:12:10 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > On Tue, 2025-04-29 at 08:03 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Your run levels are incorrect.  "3" included the graphical Display > > Manager and "2" did not. > > Level 0 is shutdown > Level 1 is

Re: Starting Debian 12 in run level 3

On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 14:21:46 +0200, Roger Price wrote: > On Tue, 29 Apr 2025, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 13:58:31 +0200, Roger Price wrote: > > > What is the correct way of booting Debian 12 without a graphical > > > interface? > > >

Re: Starting Debian 12 in run level 3

On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 13:58:31 +0200, Roger Price wrote: > I would like to start a small server in what used to be known as run level 3, > i.e. with no graphical interface. I tried setting GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="3" in > /etc/default/grub and running update-grub, but this had no effect. > > What

Re: Missing shared library symbols… that don't seem to be missing

On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 00:44:59 +, Andy Smith wrote: > $ cc -Wall -lxenstat -o foo foo.c > foo.c:(.text+0x18): undefined reference to `xenstat_init' > collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status The library option (-lxenstat) has to appear *after* any objects that use it. cc -Wall -o foo foo.

Re: Different Debian for different users

On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 21:51:47 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Is there some way to setup a machine such that one user can login into it > and see a Debian stable system, while another user can log into it (in > another vty) and get, say, a Debian sid system? > > I don't really want different VMs

Re: Network mounts in /etc/fstab causing service ordering cycle

On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 17:58:20 +, tuxi...@posteo.de wrote: > I have added a few lines to /ets/fstab like this: > > //u271407.your-storagebox.de/backup /mnt/hetzner cifs > iocharset=utf8,rw,user=u271407,pass=**,uid=1000,gid=1000,cache=loose 0 3 You're missing the _netdev flag in your op

Re: apt update vs. KDE Discover?

On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 11:33:54 -0400, Lee wrote: > > Also, you should quote "$tempf". > > > > [ -s "$tempf" ] && notify-send ... > > is there any way that > $(mktemp -q --tmpdir=/tmp -t updX) > would return a 0 status and a filename with embedded spaces .. or with > anything that would req

Re: apt update vs. KDE Discover?

Just a few notes: On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 10:39:58 -0400, Lee wrote: > #!/bin/bash > # see if there are any Debian updates and pop-up a notice if there are > > # needs an /etc/sudoers.d/adm-apt-privs that has > # Cmnd_AliasADM_COMMANDS = /usr/bin/apt update > # %adm ALL = (root)

Re: Configure a "widows" key on a 102-key keyboard

On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 08:57:16 -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > xev told me that the "Windows" key on my keyboard (which opens the KDE menu) > is "Super_L". "Menu" probably is another key that is meant to open the > context menu (same as right clicking generally). On my system (which has an

Re: Regular expressions, PCRE [was: Relation(s) between/among Kate, Kwrite, and Katepart]

On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 08:04:44 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > If you like to disappear in rabbit holes, this [3] one is nice. If > not, still the pic at the beginning still shows impressively an > exponential runaway for Perl's re engine compared to Tcl's which > uses a Thompson algorithm. Note

Re: https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles

On Sun, Apr 20, 2025 at 10:32:37 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > P.S. DotFiles does not mention that PATH may be set through /etc/login.defs. I don't think this is true; it changed in Debian 10 when the shadow-utils suite was dropped in favor of util-linux. hobbit:~$ man login.defs [...] BUGS

Re: https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles

On Sat, Apr 19, 2025 at 18:34:07 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > Aside, with my "concerned about content licensing hat on"; and I note the > paragraph on your wiki's front page. You are the principal but not sole > author of the page on your site, I see; do you have a view on what license > you co

Re: https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles

On Sat, Apr 19, 2025 at 08:12:02 -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > In https://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles the sixth paragraph states, "You > should therefore always have command source ~/.bashrc at the end of > your .bash_profile in order to force it to be read by a login shell." Just FYI, that pag

Re: Reverting back to the previous Chromium version

On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 10:31:26 +0200, local10 wrote: > Apr 12, 2025, 05:44 by cbr...@t-online.de: > > > You could grab the .deb files from snapshot.debian.org > > Thanks, I found Cromium files I needed there and copied them to > "/var/cache/apt/archives/". I know I can install them with dpkg b

Re: Printing Problem with CUPS

On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 14:41:04 +0200, Hans wrote: > Without any checks, my first thing would be, to check in both computers if > any > of the executables related to cups might have different rights settings. > > Especially the executable, which creates the file in /tmp. A file which is > crea

Re: Printing Problem with CUPS

On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 14:16:17 +0200, Christoph Pleger wrote: > I have edited the source code of cups a little to get a some more > more detailed information about the problem (the actual code > only gives a meaningless message “The print file cannot be opened: > Permission denied") and then foun

Re: Admin Root user [not set to default]

On Wed, Apr 09, 2025 at 13:44:14 +0100, James Freer wrote: > b] 'Sudo' - i thought came in with ubuntu (and some other > derivatives). Many distros use 'su -' for admin rights and i thought > Debian was one of those. Sudo i thought was introduced as a level of > safety for newbie users so they coul

Re: Fw: Re: Can you help me run Box64 on my Raspberry Pi 5?

On Wed, Apr 09, 2025 at 19:15:31 +, Matt Timpson wrote: > I'd also like to know what "numpy" is and what is does. apt-cache show python3-numpy or do a Google/Duckduckgo/Bing search for it.

Re: Admin Root user [not set to default]

On Wed, Apr 09, 2025 at 09:34:08 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > Disabling root logins by default is especially important when a > network attacker can use the login, like via SSH. The network attacker > is usually your #1 threat, There may be systems where this is true; for example, a public web s

Re: Admin Root user [not set to default]

On Wed, Apr 09, 2025 at 10:50:54 +0100, James Freer wrote: > I've just done my install of Debian 12 Live XFCE version. I really don't understand why so many people do this. Why would you install using a "Live" medium instead of the real installer? Anyway, the Live version doesn't set a root pass

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