Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful (was Re: Look at

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Aug 6 08:41:46 2003 > > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 10:57:21PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 09:55:11AM +0200, David Fokkema wrote: > > > Agreed. Although the 'very high' depends on the

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Connor
Refinement: If the domain isn't one of the major isps, then run whois on it and grep out the name of the hosting ISP. Send the complaint to THAT abuse dept. Easy. Alan -- For Linux/Bash users: Eliminate spam with the Mailbox-Sentry-Program. See: http://tinyurl.com/inpd for

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Connor
What we NEED are "advertising servers" that check the legality and trustworthiness of any advertising they offer. THEN you can put that server on your passlist. You'd register a password with that server, which could be changed at will. All the "spam" they sent you would include that password in

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Connor
This procmail recipe would do the trick. No more spam on the list. (there *might* be one or two, occassionally, but that password would be promptly killed. ) Anyone subscribing to the list would have to validate their address by answering a CR, which is *standard* pracice on the vast majority of

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Aug 6 12:22:35 2003 > I just worked the last bugs out of the expire script for MSP. It goes in cron.daily and checks all the password/address combos for Challenge-Responses that were issued more than 48 hours in the past, and for which a reply has not been rece

Re: Harassment

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 7 18:36:20 2003 > > > On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 01:53:17AM +0100, Antony Gelberg wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 05:10:53PM -0700, Alan Connor wrote: > > > S`econd-of-all, MORE people here agree with me than disagree with > > &g

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful (was Re: Look at

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Connor
I hate to have to do this, but I own an apology to Paul Johnson. (Having received a mail from a list member with an example of a false CR. Talk about FAST.) Spammers DO send false CRs, but they are EASY to spot. A real one will have: Subject: Re: The_Subject_of_Your_Original_Message AND the

Re: Helping the newbie

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 7 16:30:09 2003 > > > I can testify that once you move to Debian, you will not move away. > > A > > Got that right. Debian is the Linux of Linux. Slackware is the UNIX of Linux. Alan -- For Linux/Bash users: Eliminate spam with the Mailbox-Sentry-P

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful (was Re: Look

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 7 09:27:07 2003 > > > Carlos Sousa writes: > > Do you also have an account at my service provider? Or is it that you're > > just incapable of setting up your mail system to show the real origin of > > your emails? Anyway, you're incurring in mail forgery. > > No

Thanks For the Help

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Connor
I'm not going to be posting here with this id anymore. I just needed some help with my program. Because I have been posting here for a LONG time under a different identity, I knew that there were a bunch of phony spam fighters and jerks who don't have the manners or courage to confine their hara

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Connor
Earlier, someone said that I was wrong because so many people disagreed with me. That's a foolish statement, and I should have called him on it at the time. Facts are facts, and the fact is that traditional spam-blocking strategies don't work, and CR programs do. Those people may not LIKE this

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful (was Re: Look

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 7 09:33:53 2003 > > > On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 08:10:30 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > > Carlos Sousa writes: > > > Do you also have an account at my service provider? Or is it that > > > you're just incapable of setting up your mail system to show the > > > real origin o

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 7 16:17:34 2003 > > > Alan Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I should have noted that the password would be stripped from the mail > > before it was posted. Could do that with SED! > > Actually, I meant, what d

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Connor
I don't know why CR programs offend some people so much. The fact that so many CR opponents are self-styled spamfighters poses a conundrum of mind-boggling proportions. After all, they are the ONLY systems that actually defeat spam. Is it because they will be out of work/hobby when CR system

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Aug 6 23:57:48 2003 > Since these fellows either can't read plain English, or just don't have any manners, I will get the discussion back on track. Here's how a decent CR system works: 1) Your focus in on the passlist. Instead of wasting your time trying to figh

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful (was Re: Look at

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Aug 6 14:54:32 2003 > > > On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 09:10:03AM -0700, Alan Connor wrote: > > > > Spammers DO send false CRs, but they are EASY to spot. > > I suppose they are easy to spot _if_ you remember all the Subject > header

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful (was Re: Look

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Aug 6 16:21:40 2003 > > > --=.rC9j7h,QKjk)0T > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 09:10:03 -0700, Alan Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I hate to have t

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Connor
Here's a sample from today's mail log. Someone has been sending me mails, over and over, with MY address on the From: line. Bet they didn't know I have a packet sniffer running at all times. When I find out who it is, they are going to be in for a surprise. >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 7 08:02:00 2003 It is estimated that half of all the emails sent daily are spam. 99.9% of that does nothing but waste bandwidth, routing resources, and server space, as well as energy and people's valuable time. Connection slow? Can't access a favorite site? M

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful

2003-08-14 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 5 12:33:25 2003 > > > I don't ever see the mail and the whole process is user-transparent. > > At the risk of being picky if the user doesn't see any of what is going > on, it is not user-transparent but opaque ;) > Semantics:-) > As a disinterested obser

One Last Note

2003-08-12 Thread Alan Connor
You have 3 spammers on the list, that I have been able to identify for sure. You can figure it out: They are the ones that spearheaded the opposition against CR. "No!" you say, in shock, "It couldn't be HIM?!" Oh yes it could. And it is. They were the main reason I chose the list for my provoc

Re: Harassment

2003-08-11 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 7 19:12:24 2003 > > > Alan Connor wrote: > > >First-of-all, if you think this thread doesn't belong on the list, then > >why did you respond to it? > > > > > Ah yes... the ol' "Ad Hominem" argumen

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful

2003-08-09 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 7 11:30:45 2003 > > > Alan Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > But the widespread use of CR systems would eliminate spam from the face of > > the earth. > > What do you do about spam that goes to mailing list? &

FYI

2003-08-09 Thread Alan Connor
Just to let the bullies here who keep bouncing off me and just can't take it, and who apparently have no ethics at all: I post here under another identity and confine myself there to strictly Debian matters. I have no doubt that a few folks here will abuse their power and have this identity bann

Re: d-u / Usenet gateway (was Re: Challenge-response mail filters

2003-08-08 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 7 09:40:20 2003 > > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 10:33:25PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > > > Newsgroup descriptions are the proper repository for this information. > > Are you referring to those very short descriptions consisting of a few > words which are di

Re: Harassment

2003-08-08 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 7 17:03:39 2003 > > > On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 04:06:59PM -0700, Alan Connor wrote: > > > > Here's the Person who's been harassing me: > > > > > > What does this have to do with Debian? > > If you wa

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful

2003-08-08 Thread Alan Connor
Oh this is GREAT! I can't thank you bullies enough. 1) An MSP user receives an abusive mail from someone who has gone through the CR process, thus giving away their actual address. 2) The person calls up the MSP main menu and chooses [g] Harassment. They enter the email address at the pr

Harassment

2003-08-08 Thread Alan Connor
Here's the Person who's been harassing me: >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 7 15:44:11 2003 Status: U Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from pop.earthlink.net [207.217.121.216] by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.9.11 polling pop.earthlink.net accou nt [EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful

2003-08-07 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Aug 7 11:15:39 2003 > > > Alan Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > But the widespread use of CR systems would eliminate spam from the face of > > the earth. > > What do you do about spam that goes to mailing list? &

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful (was Re: Look at

2003-08-07 Thread Alan Connor
First-of-all, thanks to B. for helping me get my from header straightened out. > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Aug 6 16:43:57 2003 > > > On Wednesday 06 August 2003 21:33, Lance Simmons wrote: > [...] > > My spam box is full of plausible sounding subjects from familiar > > sounding names. > >

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful

2003-08-06 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 5 07:07:40 2003 > > > On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 16:04:11 -0500, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > alanconnor writes: > > > Still doesn't make sense to me and I am seriously considering > > > writing a stanza in my newsreaders filters that will dump any post

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful

2003-08-05 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 5 17:17:05 2003 > > > On (05/08/03 13:17), Alan Connor wrote: > > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 5 12:33:25 2003 > > > > > As a disinterested observer (who currently has yet to get grips with > > > filtering spam

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful

2003-08-05 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 5 14:27:40 2003 > > > On Tue, 2003-08-05 at 11:19, Steve Lamb wrote: > > On 05 Aug 2003 10:59:52 -0400 > > Mark Roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You do care if someone else pretends to be you and makes you look bad > > > though, don't you? It's really not h

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful

2003-08-04 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Aug 4 13:11:52 2003 > > On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 10:41:37 -0700 > Alan Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Funny. I know someone who has 2 of those PGP signatures things, neither > > of which use his real name or stats

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful

2003-08-04 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Aug 4 13:02:51 2003 > > > On Mon, 2003-08-04 at 12:28, Hugh Saunders wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 12:32:53PM -0700, Alan Connor wrote: > > > *I* don't get any spam. > > im guessing you dont get much ham either... > &

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful

2003-08-04 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Aug 4 12:45:09 2003 > > > > At 2003-08-04T17:41:37Z, Alan Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Hello, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;-) > :-) > > Funny. I know someone who has 2 of those PGP signatures things, neither of > > w

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful

2003-08-04 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Aug 4 10:36:15 2003 > > > > At 2003-08-03T22:02:53Z, "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Appreciated, Kirk. > > Any time. I still owe you favors for writing the "why I sign my email" > essay that I refer the occasional person to. > Funny. I know

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful (by spammers)

2003-08-03 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Aug 3 22:34:48 2003 > > > Alan Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The sig would look like this: > > > > -- > > Please include this signature in any response to this mail. Thank You. > > > >

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful (by spammers)

2003-08-03 Thread Alan Connor
-- For Linux/Bash users: Eliminate spam with the Mailbox-Sentry-Program. See: http://tinyurl.com/inpd for the scripts and docs. In my last post on this subject, I made a mistake. When I send a mail to a business (etc.) the address to which it was sent is entered into my

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful (by spammers)

2003-08-03 Thread Alan Connor
There is SO much misunderstanding (and disinformation) about CR systems here. Let's say I was going to mail a business. Here's what would happen: The address that I mailed to would go into the temporary part my passlist automatically, and any mail from that address for the next 7 days would b

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful

2003-08-03 Thread Alan Connor
Here's the bottom line: IF YOU ARE GOING TO ACCEPT ANONYMOUS MAIL, YOU ARE GOING TO GET SPAM. So accept this fact and either get used to manually deleting spam. (unless you LIKE knocking yourself out constantly updating filters that you know are not going to work for long, or paying someone e

Re: Challenge-response mail filters considered harmful

2003-08-03 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Aug 3 12:04:08 2003 > > > On Sun, Aug 03, 2003 at 05:13:26AM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > As some here are aware, I maintain a rant-o-matic with some standard > > screeds on frequently iterated issues. The C-R issue is one that's been > > nagging at me for a wh

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-03 Thread Alan Connor
I'm bailing out of this thread. It is REALLY OT and has gone on long enough. I received a flurry of mails this evening. They went directly to my quarantine mailbox which was then re-gzipped. If those who sent the mails don't return the auto-responses, they will be dumped without me ever seei

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Aug 2 19:40:42 2003 > > > > Which is why, if you're careful, you'll want to doublecheck the > > > messages marked as spam. > > > > > > > There are no messages marked as spam. > > > > Please do your homework. You obviously do not understand C-R systems > > at all. >

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Aug 2 13:17:11 2003 > > > > On Sat, 02 Aug 2003, Alan Connor wrote: > > > > It seems to me, if you can automate C-R, then spammers can too. Or do y= > ou have to verify that your a 'legitimate organization' to some sort

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Aug 2 09:52:03 2003 > > > --=.4Icb)PSAb3o(C_ > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 17:00:14 +0200 > Alan Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have just

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-02 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Aug 2 06:52:59 2003 > > > On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 21:17:28 +0100, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > I do not dispute that they eliminate spam, at least with the current > > generation of spamming technology. I merely claim that they are far > > from invulnera

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-01 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug 1 11:15:16 2003 > > > On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 02:38:10AM -0700, Alan Connor wrote: > > I should have added that debian.org is on my pass list. The domain name. > > > > Anyone mailing me from any address there wouldn't even

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-01 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug 1 11:10:43 2003 > > > On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Alan Connor wrote: > >=20 > > Spam is UCE (unsolicited commercial email) and stopping it can only be do= > ne > > with a Challenge-Response mail program, such as the one I put to

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-01 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug 1 10:55:48 2003 > > > On -6007-Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 04:57:30PM -0700, Alan Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > spake thus, > > What people mean when they say they are fed up with spam, is that they are > > fed up with SOME

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-01 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug 1 10:49:26 2003 > > > Colin Watson writes: > > Yup. For example, I can guarantee you that the people operating the > > Debian bug tracking system don't always bother to respond to > > "challenges". > > And I can guarantee you that I will never respond to "challe

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-01 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug 1 10:39:44 2003 > > > On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 02:04:28AM -0700, Alan Connor wrote: > > Colin Watson wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 01:36:14AM -0500, Jesse Meyer wrote: > > > > Spam tends to be an automated, bulk ema

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-01 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug 1 02:29:38 2003 > > > On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 01:36:14AM -0500, Jesse Meyer wrote: > > On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Alan Connor wrote: > > > Spam is UCE (unsolicited commercial email) and stopping it can only > > > be done with a Chal

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-08-01 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug 1 02:00:32 2003 > > > On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 01:36:14AM -0500, Jesse Meyer wrote: > > On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Alan Connor wrote: > > > Spam is UCE (unsolicited commercial email) and stopping it can only > > > be done with a Chal

Re: Is there a *console* screen capture

2003-08-01 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Aug 1 01:30:57 2003 > > > * Alan Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030801 14:17]: > > > > Please don't clutter your posts with pgp signatures. > > Clutter? Says he with the five line signature! Yes. You are partly right and I h

Is there a *console* screen capture

2003-07-31 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jul 31 21:53:15 2003 > > > > I would like to take a few snapshots of a console where I have dosemu running > and old DOS application. Does anyone know of a utility that can grab that > screen from another console? > > TIA, wishing you well. > > I don't see this po

Re: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-07-31 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jul 31 16:34:18 2003 > > > On -5925-Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 11:52:39AM -0700, Alan Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > spake thus, > > I get about 3 a day of those, the full file at 200+ kb. Like all spam that > > comes to my box, it goes di

RE: Look at these update from M$ Corporation.

2003-07-31 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jul 31 11:47:57 2003 > > > This is FOUL... FOUL>>> FOUL!!! > > The uuencoded piece == > Network Associates GroupShield Exchange ** > Alert generated at: Thursday, July 31, 2003 08:25:16 AM > Pacific Daylight Time > **

Re: Can't Keep Kernel Log Messages From Console

2003-07-29 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 23:47:50 2003 > > > Alan Connor wrote: > >>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 20:12:58 2003 > > > > The stupid idiot must have have jumped to the insane conclusion that you > were reading this with mutt from the irrelevan

Re: Top - Mem: 119212k used

2003-07-28 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 20:34:34 2003 > > Wait! I can get rid of ide-floppy. > Why there is nothing *REALLY* useful anymore. NO! You misunderstand. My floppy drive is the generic something-or-other device. I *LUV* my floppies (and they luv meee :-) > > > What's the unix module

Re: Can't Keep Kernel Log Messages From Console

2003-07-28 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 20:12:58 2003 > > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 03:13:08PM -0700, Alan Connor wrote: > > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 15:09:43 2003 > > > > > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > >

Re: Using dd to copy a disk.

2003-07-28 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 16:24:31 2003 > > > On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 17:22, Alan Connor wrote: > /var, /etc and /usr/bin, things can get sticky regarding symlinks. > > If there's a little shell script that can handle multiple symlink > redirection, I'

Re: Top - Mem: 119212k used

2003-07-28 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 15:36:30 2003 > > > Alan Connor wrote: > >>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 09:19:38 2003 > >> > >> > >>On Sun, 2003-07-27 at 10:39, Alan Connor wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks to all.

Re: Using dd to copy a disk.

2003-07-28 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 15:32:16 2003 > > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 01:32:06PM -0700, Alan Connor wrote: > > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 13:31:19 2003 > > > > > > > > > > > > Use cp -a . Dd is just a dumb parro

Re: Using dd to copy a disk.

2003-07-28 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 15:14:20 2003 > > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 01:32:06PM -0700, Alan Connor wrote: > > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 13:31:19 2003 > > > > > > > > > > > > Use cp -a . Dd is just a dumb parro

Can't Keep Kernel Log Messages From Console

2003-07-28 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 15:09:43 2003 > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --8222A093BEB3CE9D0AF16851 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > --8222A093BEB3CE9D0AF16851 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset

Using dd to copy a disk.

2003-07-28 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 13:31:19 2003 > > Use cp -a . Dd is just a dumb parrot and knows nothing about filesystems. Alan -- For Linux/Bash users: Eliminate spam from your life with the Mailbox-Sentry-Program. See the thread MSP on comp.mail.misc for the la

Re: Procmail partially working

2003-07-28 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 09:51:49 2003 > > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 11:46:11AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > Colin Watson wrote: > [somebody broke attributions] > > > > #Move flagged spam into the bottomless Unix pit. > > > > :0: > > > > * ^X-Spam-Flag: YES > > > > /dev/null > > > > >

Re: Top - Mem: 119212k used

2003-07-28 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 28 09:19:38 2003 > > > On Sun, 2003-07-27 at 10:39, Alan Connor wrote: Thanks to all. I've got 3.0 down to 15 megs of RAM with no X up and screen running, and just two TTYs available, which is plenty. Next step is to rebuild my kernel an

Re: Top - Mem: 119212k used

2003-07-27 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Jul 27 09:56:22 2003 > > > Quoting Alan Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > I'm trying to figure out why my memory footprint is so large when I am running > > NOTHING! > > > > Running Debian with

Top - Mem: 119212k used

2003-07-27 Thread Alan Connor
I'm trying to figure out why my memory footprint is so large when I am running NOTHING! Running Debian with a 2.4.19 kernel 08:23:37 up 57 min, 3 users, load average: 0.51, 0.15, 0.05 18 processes: 17 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.2% system, 0.0% ni

Re: bash: finding if mozilla is running

2003-07-26 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Jul 26 07:35:08 2003 > > > > > On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 10:22:53AM +0100, David selby wrote: > > Writting a small script to make mozilla show the results of HTML code=20 > > written in vi, when vi saves, the script automaticly changes mozilla to= > =20 > > show that

RE: Wanted to build: bare minimum Debian system

2003-07-25 Thread Alan Connor
I could really do without the HTML. (but /dev/null eats it up :-) Thanks, Alan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: First mail from my Linux

2003-07-24 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jul 24 13:20:34 2003 > ... > Description: Midnight Commander - A powerful file manager. - normal > version Midnight Commander is a feature-rich file manager. It has mouse > support in a linux console and in an xterm. It started as a Norton > Commander clone but now i

Re: mouse wheel scrolling in mutt ???

2003-07-23 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jul 23 17:52:02 2003 > Using a mouse with Mutt? Isn't that against the law? :-) (not really kidding) Alan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Kernel recompile

2003-07-23 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jul 23 17:48:03 2003 > > Antony, > > > > I think you need something like this: > > > > make-kpkg --initrd --revision=3:custom.2.0 kernel_image > > > > HTH > > > > That's pretty much what I did. > > make-kpkg --append-to-version=.20030723 --initrd k

Kernel recompile

2003-07-23 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jul 23 17:03:33 2003 > Hi all, > > Just recompiled my kernel to make it a little leaner, and add ACPI and > ALSA. Couple of minor points, not really problems. > > 1. I need to use the bcm5700.o module. This isn't part of the > distribution, so I had to reboot the ne

Re: Replying by email to the newsfeed

2003-07-23 Thread Alan Connor
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jul 23 12:57:19 2003 > >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jul 23 10:33:56 2003 > X-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 03:40:08 PDT (newsmaster1.news.pas.earthlink.net) > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 11:50:13PM +0200, Anthony Rowe wrote: > > Try these, Anita and Tony. Makes it pr

Re: Replying by email to the newsfeed

2003-07-23 Thread Alan Connor
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jul 23 10:29:04 2003 Minor correction to the function in my last post: Capitalize Linux in Linux.debian.user For some reason slrn capitalizes the first character in the in a newsgroup name when it stores it in ../News/misc Don't know why it even worked as well as i

Re: Replying by email to the newsfeed

2003-07-23 Thread Alan Connor
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jul 23 10:33:56 2003 X-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 03:40:08 PDT (newsmaster1.news.pas.earthlink.net) On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 11:50:13PM +0200, Anthony Rowe wrote: > > I save articles I wish to keep or reply to (using 'o' in slrn) to the > default file (probably ~/N

Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now

2003-07-22 Thread Alan Connor
In response to: From: John Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: linux.debian.user Subject: Re: [OT] SCO is going all out now Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roberto Sanchez wrote: >This Slashdot story >(http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/21/1516240&mode=thread&tid=130&tid=18 5&tid=187&tid=1

Re: Linux Commands

2003-07-22 Thread Alan Connor
In response to: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: linux.debian.user Subject: Re: Linux commands Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In linux.debian.user, you wrote: >> >> Alan, I think you posted this to the newsfeed only, so people on the >> debian-user mailing list would never see it (at least it isn

Oops

2003-07-21 Thread Alan Connor
Sorry about both these stupid posts. Working on a function :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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2003-07-21 Thread Alan Connor
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Re: Sed Tutorial

2003-07-21 Thread Alan Connor
From: Robin Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: linux.debian.user Subject: sed tutorial hello, why google gives a lot of unreachable sed tutorials ? (error 404 ...) Where can I get them if they exist ? TIA. -- Gerard I have never seen anything that compares with the OREILLY book, "sed and aw