Hello i am Aryan Wankhede

2025-07-28 Thread Aryan Wankhede
Hello i am Aryan Wankhede i am a user of Debian i wanted an help from you i am launching a command line tool for linux and Debian and also i want to launch it on Apt repository so people can easily download it.The name of the app is Next and it shows gui and command line previews of python but i am

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Lee
On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 10:29 AM Richard Owlett wrote: > > More explicitly: > How should I [who has *ability* to hyperfocus mitigated by > distractibility {cf ADHD}] ask questions in this particular forum? > > Why do I ask? > In my read with PDF related questions, my responses were essentially > "W

Boring upgrade report

2025-07-28 Thread Anders Andersson
Just upgraded my Raspberry Pi 2 from Bookworm to Trixie. Nothing eventful happened, like every time I've upgraded a Debian machine since basically Debian Sarge...

Re: looking for interactive free desktop software to transform hand-drawn jpg diagrams to svg

2025-07-28 Thread Van Snyder
On Tue, 2025-07-29 at 02:01 +0200, Jan Claeys wrote: > On Mon, 2025-07-28 at 15:43 -0700, Dan Hitt wrote: > > I'm looking for a piece of desktop software, ideally free, that > > will > > help me to interactively convert some old hand-drawn jpg diagrams > > to > > svg. > > > > It should recognize s

Re: looking for interactive free desktop software to transform hand-drawn jpg diagrams to svg

2025-07-28 Thread Jan Claeys
On Mon, 2025-07-28 at 15:43 -0700, Dan Hitt wrote: > I'm looking for a piece of desktop software, ideally free, that will > help me to interactively convert some old hand-drawn jpg diagrams to > svg. > > It should recognize simple geometric forms like straight lines, > triangles, rectangles, and c

looking for interactive free desktop software to transform hand-drawn jpg diagrams to svg

2025-07-28 Thread Dan Hitt
I'm looking for a piece of desktop software, ideally free, that will help me to interactively convert some old hand-drawn jpg diagrams to svg. It should recognize simple geometric forms like straight lines, triangles, rectangles, and curves such as circles and ellipses.It's probably too much t

Re: Suitable-to-task Debian spreadsheet software

2025-07-28 Thread Jan Claeys
On Mon, 2025-07-28 at 12:27 -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > Is there Debian software that can work with, and especially convert, > WordPerfect files? There is a library called libwpd which is used by LibreOffice, Abiword & Calligra Words, as well as a number of commandline tools (and some other applica

Re: Suitable-to-task Debian spreadsheet software

2025-07-28 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 12:27:36 -0700 Van Snyder wrote: > Is there Debian software that can work with, and especially convert, > WordPerfect files? charles@peregrine:~$ apt-cache search wordperfect abiword - efficient, featureful word processor with collaboration ebook-speaker - eBook reader that r

Re: Suitable-to-task Debian spreadsheet software

2025-07-28 Thread debian-user
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 10:44:36 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > [1] > > https://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media/file/TFP-2021-Disaggregated-Market-Basket.xlsx > > > > I was unable to download this with wget -- it just hung for a while. > But when I pasted th

Re: Suitable-to-task Debian spreadsheet software

2025-07-28 Thread Van Snyder
On Mon, 2025-07-28 at 20:21 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > OOXML's spec is roughly 6000 pages compared to roughly 900 for > LibreOffice's > ODF [1]. The reference also describes how the ISO approval process > was > highly controversial. Knuth's "The TeXbook" is 483 pages. Books about LaTeX, such

Re: Console screen resolution / font during initramfs

2025-07-28 Thread Nicolas George
Andy Smith (HE12025-07-28): > Is setting GRUB_GFXMODE going to change the resolution from the moment > grub starts? Test it and tell us what you found out. > Am I also able to use video- on the kernel command line to > change it again once the kernel gets as far as a framebuffer? T

Re: Suitable-to-task Debian spreadsheet software

2025-07-28 Thread Van Snyder
On Mon, 2025-07-28 at 12:01 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > Reading a document is often easier to implement than writing it out > correctly. Reading is also safer, because you're not overwriting any > data; if you try to save the document, you might be doing so to an > existing filename, and if the re

Re: Suitable-to-task Debian spreadsheet software

2025-07-28 Thread Van Snyder
On Mon, 2025-07-28 at 11:55 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > There was the > suggestion that Microsoft chose that development path on purpose, > specifically in order to make it harder for anyone else to > interoperate > properly with those formats. Did WordPerfect (and then Corel) follow the same pat

Re: Console screen resolution / font during initramfs, KMS

2025-07-28 Thread Geert Stappers
On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 11:58:55AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Andy Smith composed on 2025-07-28 15:35 (UTC): > > > The video= kernel command line looks promising and I will try this when > > I've finished using my laptop for work today :) > > > It would help though if anyoen were able to confirm

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Joe
On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 13:48:34 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 7/28/25 1:26 PM, Joe wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 14:39:21 - (UTC) > > Greg wrote: > > > >> On 2025-07-27, Anders Andersson wrote: > >>> > >>> The Debian user mailing list is one of the worse examples in my > >>> (limited)

Re: Console screen resolution / font during initramfs

2025-07-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 07:41:32PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > > GRUB_GFXMODE=1920x1080 > > > You might also try 'GRUB_GFXMODE="auto"' (this is the default, so leaving > GRUB_GFXMODE commented out has the same effect). As I say I already boot it with that commented out and the text is way t

Re: Suitable-to-task Debian spreadsheet software

2025-07-28 Thread Detlef Vollmann
On 7/28/25 20:50, Joe wrote: On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 20:43:52 +0200 Detlef Vollmann wrote: On 7/28/25 20:13, Richard Owlett wrote: Also gnumeric seemed faster. That's definitely true. I'm using gnumeric for essentially all my spreadsheet stuff. But it doesn't have as many functions as Excel.

Re: Suitable-to-task Debian spreadsheet software

2025-07-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 01:23:48PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 7/28/25 12:22 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > Libreoffice generally works - but you could always try Gnumeric from > > the GNOME project. > > Someone else suggested Gnumeric. > Tried it. It appears more satisfactory. For me

Re: Console screen resolution / font during initramfs

2025-07-28 Thread Darac Marjal
On 28/07/2025 16:55, Hans wrote: > Which entries? I do not currently have any settings in /etc/default/grub > related to resolution or font size. > > I'm asking which settings should be used in there (or anywhere else), if > anyone knows. > > The video= kernel command line looks promising

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 7/28/25 1:26 PM, Joe wrote: On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 14:39:21 - (UTC) Greg wrote: On 2025-07-27, Anders Andersson wrote: The Debian user mailing list is one of the worse examples in my (limited) experience. Every question gets non-answered by a bunch of people who don't really know about

Re: Suitable-to-task Debian spreadsheet software

2025-07-28 Thread Detlef Vollmann
On 7/28/25 20:13, Richard Owlett wrote: Also gnumeric seemed faster. That's definitely true. I'm using gnumeric for essentially all my spreadsheet stuff. But it doesn't have as many functions as Excel. And it doesn't really support conditional formatting where the format depends on other cell

Re: Suitable-to-task Debian spreadsheet software

2025-07-28 Thread Detlef Vollmann
On 7/28/25 18:01, The Wanderer wrote: Reading a document is often easier to implement than writing it out correctly. Reading is also safer, because you're not overwriting any data; if you try to save the document, you might be doing so to an existing filename, and if the resulting format is inva

Re: Suitable-to-task Debian spreadsheet software

2025-07-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 10:44:36 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > [1] > https://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media/file/TFP-2021-Disaggregated-Market-Basket.xlsx I was unable to download this with wget -- it just hung for a while. But when I pasted the URL directly into a web browser, the b

Re: (Not) Changing the mailing list culture (Was: Re: How to ask a question?)

2025-07-28 Thread Thomas Dineen
Don't you people have anything productive to do??? Please stop this nonsense and get back to work! Find a useful job~! On 7/28/2025 9:37 AM, Greg wrote: On 2025-07-28, Charles Curley wrote: On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 16:04:12 - (UTC) Greg wrote: I don't need support, and in the rare case I do

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Joe
On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 14:39:21 - (UTC) Greg wrote: > On 2025-07-27, Anders Andersson wrote: > > > > The Debian user mailing list is one of the worse examples in my > > (limited) experience. Every question gets non-answered by a bunch of > > people who don't really know about your exact situati

Re: Suitable-to-task Debian spreadsheet software

2025-07-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 7/28/25 12:22 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 10:44:36AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I found a USDA published spreadsheet[1] [in xlsx format] containing needed data. I saved it to a local directory with no problems. I copied it to another directory to prevent accidents.

Re: Suitable-to-task Debian spreadsheet software

2025-07-28 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 11:55:57AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: [...] > I did see a blog post somewhere recently from someone griping about how > unnecessarily dense, complex, and impenetrable the Microsoft Office > document formats are, to such an extent that it makes implementing > support for th

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 7/28/25 12:03 PM, Ralph Aichinger wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 01:18:22PM -, Greg wrote: His question isn't complex, though. He has *this* PDF from which he wants to extract *that* data so that it is readily exploitable, legible, presentable, etc. If that isn't it, then the fault lies w

Re: Suitable-to-task Debian spreadsheet software

2025-07-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 7/28/25 11:55 AM, Ralph Aichinger wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 10:44:36AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I tried to save it [unedited] to file2.xlsx. Got dire warning and suggestion to save in ODF format. I think you can configure away the "dire warning" and make LibreOffice save as xlsx by

Re: Suitable-to-task Debian spreadsheet software

2025-07-28 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 10:44:36AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > I found a USDA published spreadsheet[1] [in xlsx format] containing needed > data. I saved it to a local directory with no problems. > > I copied it to another directory to prevent accidents. > I opened it - Debian defaulted to Libr

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Ralph Aichinger
On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 01:18:22PM -, Greg wrote: > His question isn't complex, though. He has *this* PDF from which he > wants to extract *that* data so that it is readily exploitable, legible, > presentable, etc. If that isn't it, then the fault lies with him, not us. Oh boy, you have just d

Re: Suitable-to-task Debian spreadsheet software

2025-07-28 Thread Ralph Aichinger
On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 10:44:36AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > I tried to save it [unedited] to file2.xlsx. Got dire warning and suggestion > to save in ODF format. I think you can configure away the "dire warning" and make LibreOffice save as xlsx by default, if you want. > Does Debian have a

Re: Suitable-to-task Debian spreadsheet software

2025-07-28 Thread Nicolas George
> On 2025-07-28 at 11:52, Andy Smith wrote: > > I suspect you will find it unusable in anything but Microsoft > > software since that is their proprietary format. If that is the case, the odds are it will not work with a different enough version of Excel. I mean, are not documents produced by Fre

Re: (Not) Changing the mailing list culture (Was: Re: How to ask a question?)

2025-07-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Greg wrote: > [...] not one woman among them, to be sure, not one. None. > Not a single, single one [..] We cannot help you until you tell us maker, model and firmware version of your gender bias. Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: (Not) Changing the mailing list culture (Was: Re: How to ask a question?)

2025-07-28 Thread Greg
On 2025-07-28, Charles Curley wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 16:04:12 - (UTC) > Greg wrote: > >> I don't need support, and in the rare case I do, don't ask questions >> here. >> >> I use a search engine and usually find an answer to my query on stack >> exchange, or reddit, or somewhere else,

Re: (Not) Changing the mailing list culture (Was: Re: How to ask a question?)

2025-07-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 04:04:12PM -, Greg wrote: > On 2025-07-28, Andy Smith wrote: > > It really depends on what you're looking for. > > I don't need support, and in the rare case I do, don't ask questions here. > > I use a search engine and usually find an answer to my query on stack

Re: Suitable-to-task Debian spreadsheet software

2025-07-28 Thread debian-user
Richard Owlett wrote: > I found a USDA published spreadsheet[1] [in xlsx format] containing > needed data. I saved it to a local directory with no problems. > > I copied it to another directory to prevent accidents. > I opened it - Debian defaulted to LibreOffice Calc. > I tried to save it [uned

Re: (Not) Changing the mailing list culture (Was: Re: How to ask a question?)

2025-07-28 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 16:04:12 - (UTC) Greg wrote: > I don't need support, and in the rare case I do, don't ask questions > here. > > I use a search engine and usually find an answer to my query on stack > exchange, or reddit, or somewhere else, but *never* in the debian-list > archives, which

Re: Suitable-to-task Debian spreadsheet software

2025-07-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 10:56:45AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 7/28/25 10:52 AM, Andy Smith wrote: > > I have never had an issue with LibreCalc's xls support. If an xls file > > is so complicated that LibreOffice can't read/write it properly, I > > suspect you will find it unusable in an

Re: (Not) Changing the mailing list culture (Was: Re: How to ask a question?)

2025-07-28 Thread Greg
On 2025-07-28, Andy Smith wrote: > > I would encourage you to try some other venues for support. I don't say > that to be dismissive. I say it because it seems like the only practical > choice (and it's the choice that I think ~everyone is going to converge > on). It really depends on what you're

Re: Suitable-to-task Debian spreadsheet software

2025-07-28 Thread The Wanderer
On 2025-07-28 at 11:56, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 7/28/25 10:52 AM, Andy Smith wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 10:44:36AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: >> >>> Does Debian have a spreadsheet program that can competently >>> read/write xlsx format? >> >> I have never had an issue w

Re: Console screen resolution / font during initramfs

2025-07-28 Thread Felix Miata
Andy Smith composed on 2025-07-28 15:35 (UTC): > The video= kernel command line looks promising and I will try this when > I've finished using my laptop for work today :) > It would help though if anyoen were able to confirm that I'm on the > right track with that. You are. I've been using it ev

Re: Suitable-to-task Debian spreadsheet software

2025-07-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 7/28/25 10:52 AM, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 10:44:36AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Does Debian have a spreadsheet program that can competently read/write xlsx format? I have never had an issue with LibreCalc's xls support. If an xls file is so complicated that LibreOff

Re: Suitable-to-task Debian spreadsheet software

2025-07-28 Thread The Wanderer
On 2025-07-28 at 11:52, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 10:44:36AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> Does Debian have a spreadsheet program that can competently >> read/write xlsx format? > > I have never had an issue with LibreCalc's xls support. If an xls > file is so comp

Re: Console screen resolution / font during initramfs

2025-07-28 Thread Hans
> Which entries? I do not currently have any settings in /etc/default/grub > related to resolution or font size. > > I'm asking which settings should be used in there (or anywhere else), if > anyone knows. > > The video= kernel command line looks promising and I will try this when > I've finished

Re: Suitable-to-task Debian spreadsheet software

2025-07-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 10:44:36AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Does Debian have a spreadsheet program that can competently read/write xlsx > format? I have never had an issue with LibreCalc's xls support. If an xls file is so complicated that LibreOffice can't read/write it properly, I sus

Suitable-to-task Debian spreadsheet software

2025-07-28 Thread Richard Owlett
I found a USDA published spreadsheet[1] [in xlsx format] containing needed data. I saved it to a local directory with no problems. I copied it to another directory to prevent accidents. I opened it - Debian defaulted to LibreOffice Calc. I tried to save it [unedited] to file2.xlsx. Got dire warn

Re: Console screen resolution / font during initramfs

2025-07-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Hans, On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 05:25:38PM +0200, Hans wrote: > I believe, you should simply remove or comment out the > entries in /etc/default/grub, and then just do an > > upgrade-initramfs -u > > as root to make it permanent. Which entries? I do not currently have any settings in /etc/def

(Not) Changing the mailing list culture (Was: Re: How to ask a question?)

2025-07-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 02:39:21PM -, Greg wrote: > Every question is non-answered by an intimate clan of aging men with > toxic attitudes and enormous anal-retention, who believe everyone > should be using mutt or gnus like them and don't know or give a shit > about anything else. > > I

Re: Console screen resolution / font during initramfs

2025-07-28 Thread Hans
I believe, you should simply remove or comment out the entries in /etc/default/grub, and then just do an upgrade-initramfs -u as root to make it permanent. Before you do this, you can check your setings. In the boot menu of grub, type "e", then you can edit the boot commands for this special

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Hans
> This, precisely. They are only talking to themselves, as I have noted > previously (maybe Max N., who seems interested in this kind of > foolishness, can verify the date stamps). Every question is non-answered > by an intimate clan of aging men with toxic attitudes and enormous > anal-retention,

Console screen resolution / font during initramfs

2025-07-28 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, I have a Debian 12 laptop with quite a small screen which is quite high DPI — 13" diagonal with resolution 2880x1920. I like to remove "quiet" and "splash" from the kernel command line in grub settings as I prefer to see all the text fly past. In this case this is somewhat ruined by the fact

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Nicolas George
Greg (HE12025-07-28): > It's really time for a change here. Everybody loves people who have been there barely more than six months and want to throw everything away. This kind of discourse evokes, more than anything else, somebody who is pissed that the answers they got for their question were al

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Greg
On 2025-07-27, Anders Andersson wrote: > > The Debian user mailing list is one of the worse examples in my > (limited) experience. Every question gets non-answered by a bunch of > people who don't really know about your exact situation, but think > they have some valuable input. Often the same bun

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Greg
On 2025-07-27, Ralph Aichinger wrote: > > But my main point: Asking questions is an interactive, iterative > process. For any realistically complex problem, there will be no simple > answer on the first try, in most cases. Even describing the problem > correctly will take a few tries. His questio

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 7/27/25 6:06 PM, Michael Paoli wrote: Ooops, meant to send to (or at least include) list: -- Forwarded message - From: Michael Paoli Date: Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 3:25 PM Subject: Re: How to ask a question? To: Richard Owlett Why of course ask the smart way! http://catb.org/

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 7/27/25 4:11 PM, Anders Andersson wrote: On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 5:39 PM Richard Owlett wrote: More explicitly: How should I [who has *ability* to hyperfocus mitigated by distractibility {cf ADHD}] ask questions in this particular forum? Why do I ask? In my read with PDF related questions,

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 7/27/25 9:09 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 07:33:36 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Now I have to relearn how to extract specific content from spreadsheets. Something I haven't done in close to two decades. What I usually ended up doing was opening the spreadsheet in Libre

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 02:30:52AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 7/27/25 7:53 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Hi Richard, [...] > > The confused reactions should be a giveaway to you that something might > > need adjustments on your part: > > Agreed. That prompted my post. The one specific

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 7/27/25 8:55 AM, Stefan Monnier wrote: Why do I ask? In my read with PDF related questions, my responses were essentially "Why are you trying to do?" rather than an answer to to a narrowly focused question. Sometimes the "Why" you might get in return is misguided (e.g. paternalistic), but I

Re: How to ask a question?

2025-07-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 7/27/25 7:53 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Hi Richard, On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 07:33:36AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: More explicitly: How should I [who has *ability* to hyperfocus mitigated by distractibility {cf ADHD}] ask questions in this particular forum? Asking good questions is not e