Re: Different Debian for different users

2025-04-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
> How would you run both the Debian Stable and Debian Sid kernels at the same > time without virtualization? I don't need the kernels to be different (in my experience, Debian stable works just fine with a Debian sid kernel, and the reverse is also true most of the time). Stefan

Re: apt update vs. KDE Discover?

2025-04-25 Thread David Wright
On Fri 25 Apr 2025 at 15:29:39 (-), Greg wrote: > On 2025-04-25, David Wright wrote: > >> > >> Considerable extra typing susceptible to error, and as I suffer from a > >> digital deformity, I prefer less to more. > > > > You could read man bash from the line that starts with > > ALIASES >

EeePC 1001P boot problem

2025-04-25 Thread Russ Puskarcik
Hi, I have an ASUS 1001P with Rev 1202 BIOS. It does not recognize the hard drives boot sector. Apparently ASUS was aware of this and created a Boot-Tool for Linux that runs on Windows. I can't get that thing to work on XP or Windows 7. It asks for a bootable CD ROM, but when I provide one, nothing

Re: Different Debian for different users

2025-04-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 21:51:47 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Is there some way to setup a machine such that one user can login into it > and see a Debian stable system, while another user can log into it (in > another vty) and get, say, a Debian sid system? > > I don't really want different VMs

Re: Keyboard stopped working

2025-04-25 Thread Max Nikulin
On 25/04/2025 15:06, John Crawley wrote: I also have that problem occasionally, and the same fix works. But the USB socket is in a rather inconvenient place. The mouse still works on these occasions so a custom menu item to click that ran a command to emulate the unplugging and re-plugging of t

Re: PC recommendations for Debian 12

2025-04-25 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 5:22 AM Gareth Evans wrote: > I'm based in the UK and am looking for a new PC to use as a NAS with the > capacity for at least two NVMe/SSD drives. > > I note many mini PCs seem to limit the upgradable/installable SSD to 2TB. > > Can anyone recommend a make or model of any

Re: PC recommendations for Debian 12

2025-04-25 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 8:02 PM David Christensen wrote: > On 4/25/25 07:43, Gareth Evans wrote: > > On Fri 25/04/2025 at 02:54, David Christensen > wrote: > > > >> If all you need is an SSH or Samba file server for a SOHO network, most > >> any x86_64 computer built in the last ~15 years can wo

Re: Keyboard stopped working

2025-04-25 Thread John Crawley
On 25/04/2025 18:50, Thomas Schmitt wrote: John Crawley wrote: [...] a command to emulate the unplugging and re-plugging of the keyboard would be nice to have. The internet mentions usbreset(1), available from package "usbutils". But the source code in https://sources.debian.org/src/usbuti

Re: Different Debian for different users

2025-04-25 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 9:52 PM Stefan Monnier wrote: > The recent discussion around Xpra reminded me of something much more > limited that I've often wanted: > > Is there some way to setup a machine such that one user can login into it > and see a Debian stable system, while another user can log

Different Debian for different users

2025-04-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
The recent discussion around Xpra reminded me of something much more limited that I've often wanted: Is there some way to setup a machine such that one user can login into it and see a Debian stable system, while another user can log into it (in another vty) and get, say, a Debian sid system? I d

Re: apt update vs. KDE Discover?

2025-04-25 Thread David
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 at 22:44, Lee wrote: > On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 12:51 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 11:33:54 -0400, Lee wrote: > > > > Also, you should quote "$tempf". [...] > > But why take the chance? > You're right - I should be working on the habit of putting quote

Re: How do I start the Handbrake GUI?

2025-04-25 Thread David
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 at 16:55, Gary Dale wrote: > I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system. I recently installed > Handbrake but can't figure out how to use it. > > The issue is that there is no menu entry for it on my Plasma desktop > menu and the command line program has too many options for

Re: apt update vs. KDE Discover?

2025-04-25 Thread Lee
On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 12:51 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 11:33:54 -0400, Lee wrote: > > > Also, you should quote "$tempf". > > > > > > [ -s "$tempf" ] && notify-send ... > > > > is there any way that > > $(mktemp -q --tmpdir=/tmp -t updX) > > would return a 0 status a

Re: Network mounts in /etc/fstab causing service ordering cycle

2025-04-25 Thread tuxifan
On Friday, April 25, 2025 9:28:49 PM Central European Summer Time Detlef Vollmann wrote: > On 4/25/25 19:58, tuxi...@posteo.de wrote: > > 192.168.0.4:/mnt/hdd /mnt/hdd nfs defaults 0 3 > > > > /mnt/hdd/Programme /home/nils/Programs none bind 0 4 > > This is looking suspicious: mounting a local d

Re: Network mounts in /etc/fstab causing service ordering cycle

2025-04-25 Thread tuxifan
On Friday, April 25, 2025 8:03:50 PM Central European Summer Time Greg Wooledge wrote: > You're missing the _netdev flag in your options. I'd start with > that. It's definitely needed for NFS mounts, and I'm guessing you'll > need it for your CIFS mounts also. Hi! Thanks for the idea. I have ad

Re: PC recommendations for Debian 12

2025-04-25 Thread David Christensen
On 4/25/25 07:43, Gareth Evans wrote: On Fri 25/04/2025 at 02:54, David Christensen wrote: If all you need is an SSH or Samba file server for a SOHO network, most any x86_64 computer built in the last ~15 years can work. Hi David, I thought it was still the case that some NICs, for example,

Re: Network mounts in /etc/fstab causing service ordering cycle

2025-04-25 Thread Eben King
On 4/25/25 13:58, tuxi...@posteo.de wrote: Hi! I have added a few lines to /ets/fstab like this: //u271407.your-storagebox.de/backup /mnt/hetzner cifs iocharset=utf8,rw,user=u271407,pass=**,uid=1000,gid=1000,cache=loose 0 3 //192.168.0.4/Root /mnt/rp64-root cifs iocharset=utf8,rw,user=n

Re: Network mounts in /etc/fstab causing service ordering cycle

2025-04-25 Thread Detlef Vollmann
On 4/25/25 19:58, tuxi...@posteo.de wrote: 192.168.0.4:/mnt/hdd /mnt/hdd nfs defaults 0 3 /mnt/hdd/Programme /home/nils/Programs none bind 0 4 This is looking suspicious: mounting a local directory on top of a network mount. Detlef

Re: How do I start the Handbrake GUI?

2025-04-25 Thread Eben King
On 4/25/25 12:15, Gary Dale wrote: I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system. I recently installed Handbrake but can't figure out how to use it. The issue is that there is no menu entry for it on my Plasma desktop menu and the command line program has too many options for me to sort thr

Re: Self compiling entire Bookworm DVD-1

2025-04-25 Thread Darac Marjal
On 25/04/2025 18:58, tuxi...@posteo.de wrote: On Wednesday, April 23, 2025 8:48:01 PM Central European Summer Time Darac Marjal wrote: Do you need the DVD creation, or are you just looking for the re-compiled packages? If the latter, perhaps apt-build (https://manpages.debian.org/testing/apt-bu

Re: Network mounts in /etc/fstab causing service ordering cycle

2025-04-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 17:58:20 +, tuxi...@posteo.de wrote: > I have added a few lines to /ets/fstab like this: > > //u271407.your-storagebox.de/backup /mnt/hetzner cifs > iocharset=utf8,rw,user=u271407,pass=**,uid=1000,gid=1000,cache=loose 0 3 You're missing the _netdev flag in your op

Re: Self compiling entire Bookworm DVD-1

2025-04-25 Thread tuxifan
On Wednesday, April 23, 2025 8:48:01 PM Central European Summer Time Darac Marjal wrote: > Do you need the DVD creation, or are you just looking for the > re-compiled packages? If the latter, perhaps apt-build > (https://manpages.debian.org/testing/apt-build/apt-build.1.en.html) > might be of inte

Re: Self compiling entire Bookworm DVD-1

2025-04-25 Thread tuxifan
On Wednesday, April 23, 2025 11:10:29 PM Central European Summer Time Tim Woodall wrote: > Hope the op has a lot of computing resources... Well, only a single computer, but do you think this would suffice? Processors: 32 × AMD Ryzen 9 7950X 16-Core Processor Memory: 62.5 GiB of RAM Thank you

Re: Self compiling entire Bookworm DVD-1

2025-04-25 Thread tuxifan
On Wednesday, April 23, 2025 2:30:45 PM Central European Summer Time to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > For a more Debian specific link, see > > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianBootstrap > > Cheers Yes! This is exactly what I was looking for! Thank you :-)

Network mounts in /etc/fstab causing service ordering cycle

2025-04-25 Thread tuxifan
Hi! I have added a few lines to /ets/fstab like this: //u271407.your-storagebox.de/backup /mnt/hetzner cifs iocharset=utf8,rw,user=u271407,pass=**,uid=1000,gid=1000,cache=loose 0 3 //192.168.0.4/Root /mnt/rp64-root cifs iocharset=utf8,rw,user=nils,pass=**,uid=1000,gid=1000,cache=loose

Re: apt update vs. KDE Discover?

2025-04-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 11:33:54 -0400, Lee wrote: > > Also, you should quote "$tempf". > > > > [ -s "$tempf" ] && notify-send ... > > is there any way that > $(mktemp -q --tmpdir=/tmp -t updX) > would return a 0 status and a filename with embedded spaces .. or with > anything that would req

Re: Xpra

2025-04-25 Thread Mario Marietto
>You do not need Xpra for that: normal X11 over TCP on the network of the >VM is enough. >Xpra would bring you the ability to detach apps on a per-VM basis, from >the real display, but compared to just hiding the windows it only saves >a small handful of resources on the display, and costs more re

Re: How do I start the Handbrake GUI?

2025-04-25 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 12:55 PM Gary Dale wrote: > I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system. I recently installed > Handbrake but can't figure out how to use it. > > The issue is that there is no menu entry for it on my Plasma desktop > menu and the command line program has too many options

How do I start the Handbrake GUI?

2025-04-25 Thread Gary Dale
I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 system. I recently installed Handbrake but can't figure out how to use it. The issue is that there is no menu entry for it on my Plasma desktop menu and the command line program has too many options for me to sort through. I was hoping the GUI front end wo

Re: apt update vs. KDE Discover?

2025-04-25 Thread Lee
On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 10:50 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Just a few notes: thanks for the feedback! > On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 10:39:58 -0400, Lee wrote: > > #!/bin/bash > > # see if there are any Debian updates and pop-up a notice if there are > > > > # needs an /etc/sudoers.d/adm-apt-privs that

Re: apt update vs. KDE Discover?

2025-04-25 Thread Greg
On 2025-04-25, David Wright wrote: >> >> Considerable extra typing susceptible to error, and as I suffer from a >> digital deformity, I prefer less to more. > > You could read man bash from the line that starts with > ALIASES Yes, but my original objection to the utility of 'apt --list upgra

Re: systemd misses services

2025-04-25 Thread David Wright
On Fri 25 Apr 2025 at 09:24:14 (-0400), Haines Brown wrote: > I did a new install of debian and find that exim and spamassassin are not > recognized > services. That is, in /etc/systemd/system/ exim and spanassassin are not > listed. > > So when I do > > # systemctl start exim.service > RR

Re: Xpra

2025-04-25 Thread Dan Ritter
Mario Marietto wrote: > ->Thanks. But a full desktop is definitely what I do not want. This is the > great thing about Xpra: like the good old remote X11, but fast and > detachable. > > Exactly. A whole new Linux distro can be made following your approach. The > distro that I have had in mind sin

Re: Gnome to XFCE

2025-04-25 Thread David Wright
On Thu 24 Apr 2025 at 02:14:47 (-0400), Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 7:27 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 3:02 PM David Wright wrote: > > > I would assume that uninstalling the Display Manager would free up > > > the most resources, but you can probabl

Re: apt update vs. KDE Discover?

2025-04-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
Just a few notes: On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 10:39:58 -0400, Lee wrote: > #!/bin/bash > # see if there are any Debian updates and pop-up a notice if there are > > # needs an /etc/sudoers.d/adm-apt-privs that has > # Cmnd_AliasADM_COMMANDS = /usr/bin/apt update > # %adm ALL = (root)

Re: apt update vs. KDE Discover?

2025-04-25 Thread David Wright
On Fri 25 Apr 2025 at 14:23:52 (-), Greg wrote: > On 2025-04-25, Lee wrote: > >> > >> I never run 'apt list --upgradable' because 'apt upgrade' shows the same > >> info, while offering the chance to say no. > > > > ^shrug^ > > it's harder to fuck up 'apt list --upgradable' if all you want is a

Re: PC recommendations for Debian 12

2025-04-25 Thread Gareth Evans
On Fri 25/04/2025 at 02:54, David Christensen wrote: > If all you need is an SSH or Samba file server for a SOHO network, most > any x86_64 computer built in the last ~15 years can work. Hi David, I thought it was still the case that some NICs, for example, weren't supported. Is that a thi

Re: apt update vs. KDE Discover?

2025-04-25 Thread Lee
On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 10:24 AM Greg wrote: > > On 2025-04-25, Lee wrote: > >> > >> I never run 'apt list --upgradable' because 'apt upgrade' shows the same > >> info, while offering the chance to say no. > > > > ^shrug^ > > it's harder to fuck up 'apt list --upgradable' if all you want is a > > l

Re: Xpra

2025-04-25 Thread Nicolas George
Mario Marietto (HE12025-04-25): > Exactly. A whole new Linux distro can be made following your approach. The > distro that I have had in mind since ages. A Linux distro that acts as a > main box with a lot of little boxes inside. Each one is a vm with a > different OS (FreeBSD,NetBSD,OpenBSD and so

Re: apt update vs. KDE Discover?

2025-04-25 Thread Greg
On 2025-04-25, Lee wrote: >> >> I never run 'apt list --upgradable' because 'apt upgrade' shows the same >> info, while offering the chance to say no. > > ^shrug^ > it's harder to fuck up 'apt list --upgradable' if all you want is a > list of what updates are available, but whatever works for you.

Re: systemd misses services

2025-04-25 Thread The Wanderer
On 2025-04-25 at 09:24, Haines Brown wrote: > I did a new install of debian and find that exim and spamassassin > are not recognized services. That is, in /etc/systemd/system/ exim > and spanassassin are not listed. Did you install the packages for them? I'm not sure about exim, but I'm fairly co

Re: apt update vs. KDE Discover?

2025-04-25 Thread Lee
On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 10:08 AM Greg wrote: > > On 2025-04-24, Lee wrote: > > > > "apt update" just gets the latest package info > > "apt list --upgradable" shows you what packages have updates > > I never run 'apt list --upgradable' because 'apt upgrade' shows the same > info, while offering the

Re: apt update vs. KDE Discover?

2025-04-25 Thread Greg
On 2025-04-24, Lee wrote: > > "apt update" just gets the latest package info > "apt list --upgradable" shows you what packages have updates I never run 'apt list --upgradable' because 'apt upgrade' shows the same info, while offering the chance to say no.

Re: systemd misses services

2025-04-25 Thread Virgo Pärna
On 25.04.2025 16:24, Haines Brown wrote: I did a new install of debian and find that exim and spamassassin are not recognized services. That is, in /etc/systemd/system/ exim and spanassassin are not listed. So when I do # systemctl start exim.service RROR:systemctl:Unit exim.service coul

Re: Xpra

2025-04-25 Thread Mario Marietto
->Thanks. But a full desktop is definitely what I do not want. This is the great thing about Xpra: like the good old remote X11, but fast and detachable. Exactly. A whole new Linux distro can be made following your approach. The distro that I have had in mind since ages. A Linux distro that acts a

Re: Xpra

2025-04-25 Thread Loïc Grenié
On Fri 25 Apr 2025 at 04:37, Antonio Russo wrote: > On 2025-04-24 15:27, Michael Stone wrote: > > yes, xpra has been in bad shape for a while, but nobody seemed to care > enough to fix it > > No quite! Anyone can check out my PR [1] that gets it working with 6.0. > > I stopped tracking upstream fo

Re: Xpra

2025-04-25 Thread Nicolas George
Frank Guthausen (HE12025-04-25): > Maybe it is overkill for what you want, but you can use x2go to > have this kind of remote ressource usage for an entire desktop. Thanks. But a full desktop is definitely what I do not want. This is the great thing about Xpra: like good old remote X11, but fast a

systemd misses services

2025-04-25 Thread Haines Brown
I did a new install of debian and find that exim and spamassassin are not recognized services. That is, in /etc/systemd/system/ exim and spanassassin are not listed. So when I do # systemctl start exim.service RROR:systemctl:Unit exim.service could not be found. This no help: # systemctl

Re: Xpra

2025-04-25 Thread Frank Guthausen
On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 23:05:41 +0200 Nicolas George wrote: > > That include Xpra, a X11 server proxy where you do: > > xpra --start-child=firefox --exit-with-children start ssh:ssecem:15 > > a[...] > > Do anybody know another tool with the same features, still packages > for Trixie? Maybe it is

Re: R: R: R: R: Grub problem

2025-04-25 Thread Frank Guthausen
On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 20:41:41 + Pier Antonio Corradini wrote: > > sudo pvcreate /dev/md0 (made /dev/md0) > sudo vgcreate myvg /dev/md0 (made Volume Group VG) > sudo lvcreate -L 50G -n lv_root myvg (made a logical volume lv_root, > 50 GB) > sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/myvg/lv_root (made filesystem on l

Re: Keyboard stopped working

2025-04-25 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Fri, 25 Apr 2025, at 09:06, John Crawley wrote: > I also have that problem occasionally, and the same fix works. But the > USB socket is in a rather inconvenient place. So, run a USB extension cable from there to an accessible place? Extension cables are also a good way to protect oft-used s

Re: Keyboard stopped working

2025-04-25 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, John Crawley wrote: > [...] a command to emulate the > unplugging and re-plugging of the keyboard would be nice to have. The internet mentions usbreset(1), available from package "usbutils". But the source code in https://sources.debian.org/src/usbutils/1%3A018-2/usbreset.c shows that the

Re: Keyboard stopped working

2025-04-25 Thread John Crawley
On 22/04/2025 11:09, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 20:30:01 -0400 Arbol One mailto:arbol...@hotmail.ca>> wrote: > In my Debian 12, the keyboard stopped working all of the sudden I have that problem occasionally. I just unplug the USB connector then plug it back