Re: Thunderbird imap certificates

2024-12-14 Thread Paul Duncan
Looks like imap.gmail.com should be the one. Paul. On Sat, 14 Dec 2024 at 15:05, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 14/12/2024 14:09, Dima wrote: > > Using VPN via SOCK5 > > > > Got a message notification pop-up "Certificate for imap.google.com does > > not come from the trusted source." with a button "ac

a passwordless operating system

2024-12-14 Thread 🦓
my mother is currently struggling to memorize all of my dead stepfather's identities and passwords and that makes me wonder how would you like an internet of hosts who store everything undeletably and barrierlessly readably with no secrets whatsoever to humanity nor any other natural or artificial

Re: libreoffice/openoffice system theme

2024-12-14 Thread Christian Britz
Am 13.12.24 um 13:02 schrieb david thompson: > I am having some trouble getting libreoffice or/and openoffice adopting the > system theme - they wont do it. There are packages like for example libreoffice-plasma, libreoffice-kf5, libreoffice-style-breeze you can use for integration in your des

Re: Orca install repeating - can't reproduce [WAS Re: Installer and assistive technologies]

2024-12-14 Thread David Wright
On Sun 15 Dec 2024 at 11:00:18 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 15/12/2024 05:27, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > Installing using the standard installer: > > Have you tried it when some stepper motor drivers are connected using > USB to serial port adapters? > > I do not remember if I explicitly ch

Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-14 Thread Max Nikulin
On 14/12/2024 23:44, gene heskett wrote: What is suricata, first I've heard of it I was expecting that you would walk through every item reported by "dpkg -V" and "systemctl --failed". For the former, you have enough data locally to get more info dpkg -S /etc/suricata/suricata.yaml and

Re: Orca install repeating - can't reproduce [WAS Re: Installer and assistive technologies]

2024-12-14 Thread Max Nikulin
On 15/12/2024 05:27, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Installing using the standard installer: Have you tried it when some stepper motor drivers are connected using USB to serial port adapters? I do not remember if I explicitly chose some installer menu to save logs, but I have /var/log/installer/

Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-14 Thread Tom Dial
Hi Gene, On 12/13/24 17:04, gene heskett wrote: On 12/13/24 18:23, Tom Dial wrote: On 12/13/24 02:48, gene heskett wrote: On 12/13/24 03:52, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 01:53:55AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: [...] That was the system config at the original install, an

Orca install repeating - can't reproduce [WAS Re: Installer and assistive technologies]

2024-12-14 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 09:41:24AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > On 12/14/24 02:51, David Christensen wrote: > > On 12/13/24 13:08, gene heskett wrote: > > > On 12/13/24 13:48, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > People have tried to help you - and sometimes got the brush off. > > > > > > Often bec

Re: Boot from USB?

2024-12-14 Thread David Christensen
On 12/14/24 12:02, Hans wrote: Hi folks, I was unaware, that a native installed linux is capable from booting at the USB-port! I put a harddrive with linux with a native installed linux (native means, the harddrive was built-in) in an usb-case and could boot from it. This was nice! Thus some qu

Re: Installer and assistive technologies

2024-12-14 Thread David Christensen
On 12/14/24 12:40, gene heskett wrote: On 12/14/24 12:38, David Christensen wrote: Please post a photograph online somewhere when it is built.  I am curious to see your custom/ mod/ 3-D printed case. Just the shelves are printed, you can get the case from amazon as a stamped sheet metal thing

Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-14 Thread gene heskett
On 12/14/24 14:32, Andy Smith wrote: On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 11:21:03AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: tested with soapy water weekly for leakage. If you looked closely when the tanks were wet, bubbles could be seen forming on the outside of the tanks. Well, this has certainly become quite the G

Re: Boot from USB?

2024-12-14 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Hans wrote: > I put a harddrive with linux with a native installed linux (native means, > the harddrive was built-in) in an usb-case and could boot from it. > [...] > 1. Is this is normal standard behaviour and can this be confirmed? This depends on the settings of your computers firmware (Le

Re: Installer and assistive technologies

2024-12-14 Thread gene heskett
On 12/14/24 12:38, David Christensen wrote: On 12/14/24 06:41, gene heskett wrote: On 12/14/24 02:51, David Christensen wrote: A storage server would be a useful addition to your network: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/11/msg00179.html Its life testing drives now, but not fully a

Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-14 Thread gene heskett
On 12/14/24 12:31, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: Our std night shift procedure was to pump the big tank down to under 2 or 3 psi, which put the bottles up around 7400 to 7800 psi at midnight. The morning shift at 8AM had 5200 psi to play with till the truck got there. Around a

Re: Boot from USB?

2024-12-14 Thread eben
On 12/14/24 15:02, Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > I was unaware, that a native installed linux is capable from booting at > the USB-port! > > I put a harddrive with linux with a native installed linux (native > means, the harddrive was built-in) in an usb-case and could boot from > it. This was nice!

Re: Boot from USB?

2024-12-14 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 09:02:45PM +0100, Hans wrote: I put a harddrive with linux with a native installed linux (native means, the harddrive was built-in) in an usb-case and could boot from it. This was nice! Thus some questions appeared: 1. Is this is normal standard behaviour and can this be

Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-14 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Andy Smith wrote: > Merry Christmas everyone! We've obviously all been bad children. Yay ! Lumps of coal for everyone ! Have a nice day :) Thomas

Boot from USB?

2024-12-14 Thread Hans
Hi folks, I was unaware, that a native installed linux is capable from booting at the USB-port! I put a harddrive with linux with a native installed linux (native means, the harddrive was built-in) in an usb-case and could boot from it. This was nice! Thus some questions appeared: 1. Is this

Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-14 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 07:32:04PM +, Andy Smith wrote: Well, this has certainly become quite the Gene thread hasn't it? Hey, at least nobody is wasting any time on clean installs.

Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-14 Thread Andy Smith
On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 11:21:03AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > tested with soapy water weekly for leakage. If you looked closely when > the tanks were wet, bubbles could be seen forming on the outside of > the tanks. Well, this has certainly become quite the Gene thread hasn't it? Is it about a

Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-14 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 11:44:17AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > Do you monitor suricata state&logs at these moments? > What is suricata, first I've heard of it > > > Suricata - network analysis tool and threat detection tool, maybe? [First result on a web search] All the very best, as ever

Re: Installer and assistive technologies

2024-12-14 Thread David Christensen
On 12/14/24 06:41, gene heskett wrote: On 12/14/24 02:51, David Christensen wrote: A storage server would be a useful addition to your network: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/11/msg00179.html Its life testing drives now, but not fully assembled, using a separate psu, a bananapi m5

Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-14 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: > Our std night shift procedure was to pump the big tank down to under 2 or 3 > psi, which put the bottles up around 7400 to 7800 psi at midnight. The > morning shift at 8AM had 5200 psi to play with till the truck got there.  > Around a 2500 diff.  Where did the rest of it

Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-14 Thread gene heskett
On 12/14/24 11:28, David Christensen wrote: On 12/14/24 06:23, gene heskett wrote: On 12/14/24 00:52, David Christensen wrote: Have you contacted Seagate to see if the drives are eligible for Rescue Data Recovery Services? https://www.seagate.com/products/rescue-data-recovery/ Screw seaga

Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-14 Thread gene heskett
On 12/14/24 10:43, Max Nikulin wrote: On 14/12/2024 11:29, gene heskett wrote: gene@coyote:~$ dpkg -l orca brltty dpkg-query: no packages found matching brltty [...] un  orca      (no description available) OK, no it is convincing. On 14/12/2024 21:26, gene heskett wrote: ge

Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-14 Thread David Christensen
On 12/14/24 07:43, Max Nikulin wrote:     systemd-analyze verify rsyslog.service My daily driver, for comparison: 2024-12-14 08:31:02 root@laalaa ~ # cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a 11.11 Linux laalaa 5.10.0-33-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.226-1 (2024-10-03) x86_64 GNU/Linux 2024-12-14 08:

Re: directories I can't get rid of

2024-12-14 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-12-14, Greg Wooledge wrote: > I don't even have a /var/data directory in the first place. Because I run steam on a separate user in this dir

Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-14 Thread David Christensen
On 12/14/24 06:23, gene heskett wrote: On 12/14/24 00:52, David Christensen wrote: Have you contacted Seagate to see if the drives are eligible for Rescue Data Recovery Services? https://www.seagate.com/products/rescue-data-recovery/ Screw seagate with a hot branding iron., they used the mar

Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-14 Thread gene heskett
On 12/14/24 10:07, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 09:23:33AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: On 12/14/24 00:52, David Christensen wrote: On 12/13/24 12:50, gene heskett wrote: [...] Screw seagate with a hot branding iron., they used the marketplace to test a tech that wasn't re

Re: directories I can't get rid of

2024-12-14 Thread Max Nikulin
On 14/12/2024 22:11, Greg Wooledge wrote: hobbit:~$ mount | grep portal portal on /run/user/1000/doc type fuse.portal (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=1000) That looks reasonable. I don't know what it's *for*, but at least it's not in a system-wide location that doesn't exist on

Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-14 Thread Max Nikulin
On 14/12/2024 11:29, gene heskett wrote: gene@coyote:~$ dpkg -l orca brltty dpkg-query: no packages found matching brltty [...] un orca (no description available) OK, no it is convincing. On 14/12/2024 21:26, gene heskett wrote: gene@coyote:~$ sudo dpkg -V ??5??

Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-14 Thread Max Nikulin
On 14/12/2024 21:23, gene heskett wrote: In my employment history I learned a thing or two about helium as I probably tested the pressure regulatores that gave John Glenn his first rides, primarily that man has no material that will contain it, the molecule is so small it walks right thru 2" of

Re: directories I can't get rid of

2024-12-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 21:44:18 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 14/12/2024 20:56, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 10:36:55 +0100, Michel Verdier wrote: > > > portal on /var/data/steam/.cache/doc type fuse.portal > > > (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1001,group_id=1001) > > > >

Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-14 Thread tomas
On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 09:23:33AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > On 12/14/24 00:52, David Christensen wrote: > > On 12/13/24 12:50, gene heskett wrote: [...] > Screw seagate with a hot branding iron., they used the marketplace to test a > tech that wasn't ready for prime time and likely never w

Re: Thunderbird imap certificates

2024-12-14 Thread Max Nikulin
On 14/12/2024 14:09, Dima wrote: Using VPN via SOCK5 Got a message notification pop-up "Certificate for imap.google.com does not come from the trusted source." with a button "activate". Likely imap.googlemail.com For HTTP, providers sometimes use "captive portal" to request user authenticat

Re: directories I can't get rid of

2024-12-14 Thread gene heskett
On 12/14/24 04:37, Michel Verdier wrote: On 2024-12-13, Stefan Monnier wrote: Yes .cache/doc is a mountpoint for steam Wow, that sounds philosophically quite wrong. Stefan Nevertheless physically quite right :) Let's do a small experiment to confirm it: # mount | grep steam porta

Re: directories I can't get rid of

2024-12-14 Thread Max Nikulin
On 14/12/2024 20:56, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 10:36:55 +0100, Michel Verdier wrote: portal on /var/data/steam/.cache/doc type fuse.portal (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1001,group_id=1001) Curious. I have steam running, and I don't have this. I can say nothing relate

Re: Installer and assistive technologies

2024-12-14 Thread gene heskett
On 12/14/24 02:51, David Christensen wrote: On 12/13/24 13:08, gene heskett wrote: On 12/13/24 13:48, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: People have tried to help you - and sometimes got the brush off. Often because they are asking me to start fresh with clean drives, a multiday operation to collect

Re: Thunderbird imap certificates

2024-12-14 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 02:09:30PM +0700, Dima wrote: > Hello! > > My system: > Debain: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) x86_64 > Thunderbird: Thunderbird 128.4.3esr > Using VPN via SOCK5 > > Got a message notification pop-up "Certificate for imap.google.com does not > come from the trusted source.

End user speech recognition applications

2024-12-14 Thread Richard Owlett
I want to explore feasibility of a "bright idea" [snicker!]. I'm looking for relatively light weight end user application that will run under 64 bit Debian 12. The program's description would likely use the terms continuous and large vocabulary. *HOWEVER* I would be happy initially if it could

Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-14 Thread gene heskett
On 12/14/24 00:58, David Christensen wrote: On 12/13/24 20:29, gene heskett wrote: On 12/13/24 22:20, Max Nikulin wrote:     dpkg -V gene@coyote:~$  dpkg -V missing /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/10-vendor.d (Permission denied) Please run `dpkg -V` as root. gene@coyote:~$ sudo dpkg -V

Re: restart lasts maybe a minute till next freeze

2024-12-14 Thread gene heskett
On 12/14/24 00:52, David Christensen wrote: On 12/13/24 12:50, gene heskett wrote: I bought two new 2T Seagates to install bookworm on, spent a week copying almost 26 years worth of my personal history to them, 2 weeks later both of them died, going off line in the middle of the night, so I

Re: directories I can't get rid of

2024-12-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 10:36:55 +0100, Michel Verdier wrote: > Let's do a small experiment to confirm it: > > # mount | grep steam > portal on /var/data/steam/.cache/doc type fuse.portal > (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1001,group_id=1001) Curious. I have steam running, and I don't have thi

Re: Audacious media player - help using GUI

2024-12-14 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/13/24 9:41 AM, Jan Claeys wrote: On Tue, 2024-12-10 at 05:54 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: Then I started speculating about taking notes tied to specific times. Can audacious do that? Is there a media player with that orientation? What should I be reading? Depending on what you mean by "n

Re: directories I can't get rid of

2024-12-14 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-12-13, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Yes .cache/doc is a mountpoint for steam > > Wow, that sounds philosophically quite wrong. > > Stefan Nevertheless physically quite right :) Let's do a small experiment to confirm it: # mount | grep steam portal on /var/data/steam/.cache/doc type f

Re: Thunderbird imap certificates

2024-12-14 Thread tomas
On Sat, Dec 14, 2024 at 02:09:30PM +0700, Dima wrote: > Hello! > > My system: > Debain: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) x86_64 > Thunderbird: Thunderbird 128.4.3esr > Using VPN via SOCK5 > > Got a message notification pop-up "Certificate for imap.google.com does not > come from the trusted source.