Re: bootable pendrive from zip file

2024-04-22 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Max Nikulin wrote: > Out of curiosity, does the requirement of specific GUID exist for removable > drives? It is disputed, whether the specs say that the partitions must be marked by 0xEF in legacy MBR tables and by C12A7328-F81F-11D2-BA4B-00A0C93EC93B in GPT. In practice there seems to be no

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-22 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On 2024-04-22 16:50, Jeffrey Walton wrote: What are the old and new hard drive model numbers and specs? The old drive is a Western Digital WD5000YS (500GB SATA). The new drive is a Western Digital Red, WF40EFPX (4TB SATA). If the old hard drive was spinning rust, it is acceptable to replace i

Re: bootable pendrive from zip file

2024-04-22 Thread Max Nikulin
On 23/04/2024 00:49, Thomas Schmitt wrote: This aims at an undocumented habit of EFI implementations to look in any FAT filesystem for a \EFI\BOOT directory with a suitable BOOT*.EFI file and to start it, if found. (Officially documented is to look in FAT filesystems of partitions with MBR type 0

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-22 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 5:03 AM Charlie Gibbs wrote: > I should probably be posting this to the Steam forums, but > most of the denizens there are Windows people so I might be > better off letting you Debian gurus have a go at it first. > > TL;DR: Copying an existing /home into a fresh Debian ins

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 05:02:09PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> > Do you have any suggestion as to which list would be better to contact? > >> > Original: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/04/msg00324.html > >> Maybe `reportbug debian-installer`? > > but perhaps without all the decepti

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-22 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> > Do you have any suggestion as to which list would be better to contact? >> > Original: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2024/04/msg00324.html >> Maybe `reportbug debian-installer`? > but perhaps without all the deception crap, unless you really mean > to impugn the developers' motives. Yu

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-22 Thread Reid
Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > That's probably a bug in Calamares. I checked with one of the live cd > maintainers on this. As has been pointed out, the live cd is really > intended more for checking than for major use but it does need some work. > If you found the non-free components - where were th

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-22 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Recently I decided to upgrade its storage capacity, and replaced > its 500GB hard drive (which was pretty large at the time I bought > it) with a 4TB drive. I did an install from scratch using a > network install CD, then copied my /home partition (using rsync) > from the old drive. [...] > (Sid

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-22 Thread Reid
- Original message - From: Curt > On Mon, 22 Apr 2024, Curt wrote: > >> How can you be taken seriously when you can't even wrap your lines >> according to our venerable guidelines? >> Get a popular setting going, buddy. >> >> And, though it's true I extolled Proust recently, being succinct

Re: Strange New Installation Behavior

2024-04-22 Thread David Christensen
On 4/22/24 06:00, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I am running Bookworm and cleaned up a couple of files too many resulting in a messed up Xfce Desktop. I decided that this would be a good time to reinstall the Bullseye. I made a backup of my /home/comp directory using Deja-dup. I downloaded and ran

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 11:31:03AM -0700, Reid wrote: > Debian's policy change on non-free-firmware has made much of the Debian.org > website very misleading, and some Debian OS installers have become very > Free Software UNfriendly and deceptive. The following is my experience, > and the reasons w

Re: bootable pendrive from zip file

2024-04-22 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Luis Muñoz Fuente wrote: > I assume the problem is the debian link, which points to the same directory: > $ ls -l tmp/debian > lrwxrwxrwx 1 user user 1 Apr 22 20:47 tmp/debian -> . > and creates a loop, That's not a link loop, because "." is not a symbolic link. But if a tree traversal is ins

Re: bootable pendrive from zip file

2024-04-22 Thread Luis Muñoz Fuente
I assume the problem is the debian link, which points to the same directory: $ ls -l tmp/debian lrwxrwxrwx 1 user user 1 Apr 22 20:47 tmp/debian -> . and creates a loop, I guess that's also why if I compress with: zip -r debian.zip tmp It never ends but from the graphical environment it does com

Re: bootable pendrive from zip file

2024-04-22 Thread Luis Muñoz Fuente
El 22/4/24 a las 20:25, Thomas Schmitt escribió: Hard to say if you do not show what you do in particular. Yes, sorry. $ du debian-12.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso 644100 debian-12.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso # mount debian-12.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso /mnt mount: /mnt: ATENCIÓN: el dispositivo está protegi

Re: bootable pendrive from zip file

2024-04-22 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Luis Muñoz Fuente wrote: > why does extracting the files from the debian iso increase the > size so much? Hard to say if you do not show what you do in particular. In general an increase of about 120 MB is to be expected because of expansion of hardlinks: $ du debian-12.2.0-amd64-netinst

Re: bootable pendrive from zip file

2024-04-22 Thread Luis Muñoz Fuente
El 22/4/24 a las 19:49, Thomas Schmitt escribió: Hi, Thanks for the reply. My question is rather why the size increases so much. When I take a folder that occupies 5 GiB and with mkisofs I create an iso file, it still occupies 5 GiB. And if I later extract the files it takes up 5 GiB again

Re: bootable pendrive from zip file

2024-04-22 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Luis Muñoz Fuente wrote: > I recently used clonezilla and followed these instructions: > https://clonezilla.org/liveusb.php#linux-setup The variation for "uEFI", i assume. This aims at an undocumented habit of EFI implementations to look in any FAT filesystem for a \EFI\BOOT directory with a

bootable pendrive from zip file

2024-04-22 Thread Luis Muñoz Fuente
Hello: I recently used clonezilla and followed these instructions: https://clonezilla.org/liveusb.php#linux-setup to create a bootable pendrive from a zip file. What I liked about this method is that I can continue saving data on the pendrive and if I want to delete clonezilla I just have to

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-22 Thread Curt
On 2024-04-22, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > I endure this on many other mailing lists unrelated to Debian, > particularly from groups.io that have a Web interface. It's a violation of Debian mailing list posting rules, guidelines, and tips. It irks me that in certain cases these guidelines are evoke

Re: Strange New Installation Behavior

2024-04-22 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On 04/22/2024 11:03 AM, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net> wrote: On 22 Apr 2024 09:00 -0400, from s.mol...@sbcglobal.net (Stephen P. Molnar): I downloaded and ran the 512 check sum on a copy of Debian-12.5.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso and ran the Graphical Inst

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-22 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2024 22 Apr 09:39 -0500, Curt wrote: > On 2024-04-21, Reid wrote: > > You seem to be suggesting that Debian users now need to read XX pages of > > release notes and guides in order to learn that what they're installing is > > not what the Debian.org homepage "Why Debian", "Our Philosophy",

Re: Strange New Installation Behavior

2024-04-22 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 22 Apr 2024 16:03 +0100, from debian-u...@howorth.org.uk: > He said he wanted to revert to Bullseye rather than Bookworm, so it's > to be expected that there will be older kernels, if that's really what > he meant and what he did. But as you say, without a clear statement of > the intent and the

Re: Strange New Installation Behavior

2024-04-22 Thread debian-user
Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net> wrote: > On 22 Apr 2024 09:00 -0400, from s.mol...@sbcglobal.net (Stephen P. > Molnar): > > I downloaded and ran the 512 check sum on a copy of > > Debian-12.5.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso and ran the Graphical Install mode on > > the 1.0 TD SSD on my Computer. The in

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-22 Thread Curt
On 2024-04-22, fxkl4...@protonmail.com wrote: > On Mon, 22 Apr 2024, Curt wrote: > >> On 2024-04-21, Reid wrote: >>> You seem to be suggesting that Debian users now need to read XX pages of >>> release notes and guides in order to learn that what they're installing is >>> not what the Debian.or

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-22 Thread fxkl47BF
On Mon, 22 Apr 2024, Curt wrote: > On 2024-04-21, Reid wrote: >> You seem to be suggesting that Debian users now need to read XX pages of >> release notes and guides in order to learn that what they're installing is >> not what the Debian.org homepage "Why Debian", "Our Philosophy", and "Who We

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-22 Thread Curt
On 2024-04-21, Reid wrote: > You seem to be suggesting that Debian users now need to read XX pages of > release notes and guides in order to learn that what they're installing is > not what the Debian.org homepage "Why Debian", "Our Philosophy", and "Who We > Are / What We Do" pages are current

Re: Strange New Installation Behavior

2024-04-22 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 22 Apr 2024 09:00 -0400, from s.mol...@sbcglobal.net (Stephen P. Molnar): > I downloaded and ran the 512 check sum on a copy of > Debian-12.5.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso and ran the Graphical Install mode on the 1.0 > TD SSD on my Computer. The installation went smoothly without any warning or > error mes

Strange New Installation Behavior

2024-04-22 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
I am running Bookworm and cleaned up a couple of files too many resulting in a messed up Xfce Desktop. I decided that this would be a good time to reinstall the Bullseye. I made a backup of my /home/comp directory using Deja-dup. I downloaded and ran the 512 check sum on a copy of Debian-12.5

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-22 Thread David Christensen
On 4/21/24 22:33, Charlie Gibbs wrote: I should probably be posting this to the Steam forums, but most of the denizens there are Windows people so I might be better off letting you Debian gurus have a go at it first. TL;DR: Copying an existing /home into a fresh Debian installation causes audio

Re: Debian non-free-firmware policy making OS misleading and Free Software unfriendly

2024-04-22 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun Apr 21, 2024 at 9:58 PM BST, Reid wrote: > If the Installers are not ALL going to give users the choice to opt-in > or opt-out of non-free components, then those above-mentioned > promotional pages really need to be updated so as to not be misleading > users. I'm sure the Debian WWW team wo

Re: Subject: Glitchy sound in Steam games after hard drive upgrade

2024-04-22 Thread Michel Verdier
On 2024-04-21, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > Obviously my Steam programs and configuration files are in my > home directory, since the updated system comes up icons and all > without re-installing Steam, and can find everything it needs to > run the games. But perhaps there are a few files somewhere els