Re: Issues after upgrading 11 -> 12; was: Is 12.4 safe, or should I wait for 12.5?

2024-01-29 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 29 Jan 2024 19:54 -0800, from cgi...@surfnaked.ca (Charlie Gibbs): > Today I took a thorough backup of my laptop and dove in, using the > instructions at https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUpgrade as a guide. Did you actually follow _that_ page, or did you read and follow the _release notes_ as it s

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

2024-01-29 Thread Tixy
On Mon, 2024-01-29 at 23:49 -0600, David Wright wrote: > I would tend to think that: > > . The debian-installer installs ifupdown by default when you don't >   install a Desktop Manager like Gnome, > > . The debian-installer installs NetworkManager by default if you do >   install a Desktop Manag

Re: Bug: Tab completion for pdf files with blanks in path

2024-01-29 Thread David Wright
On Tue 30 Jan 2024 at 10:34:21 (+0700), Max Nikulin wrote: > On 30/01/2024 02:51, David Wright wrote: > > . Press HOME, > > . Type any letter that makes a "wrong" command name (eg aokular), > > . Press END, > > The escape "Esc /" workaround has been posted in this thread already. Yes, I believe I

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

2024-01-29 Thread David Wright
On Tue 30 Jan 2024 at 10:13:34 (+0900), Byunghee HWANG (황병희) wrote: > On Mon, 2024-01-29 at 09:35 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 29 Jan 2024 at 21:36:39 (+0900), Byunghee HWANG (황병희) wrote: > > > > > > For months ago, i did upgrade Debian 12 to Debian Sid. At that > > > time, > > > Gnome ne

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

2024-01-29 Thread 황병희
On Tue, 2024-01-30 at 10:40 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 30/01/2024 08:21, Byunghee HWANG (황병희) wrote: > > > nm-online > > > nmcli > > > nmcli connection > > > nmcli device > > > /usr/sbin/NetworkManager --print-config > > > apt list '~i~nnetwork-manager' > > > > > > E.g. the network-manager-con

Re: can't type certain letters

2024-01-29 Thread fjd
On Mon, 29 Jan 2024, Dan Ritter wrote: fjd wrote: You cannot type 'w', 'r', 'y', 'u', 'o' and return key. I haven't checked if capitals are affected or if non-alphabeticals like '$' or '=' are affected. It's got an American keyboard. The problem is present when you boot direct to BIOS/UEFI. A

Re: Is 12.4 safe, or should I wait for 12.5?

2024-01-29 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 21:20:01 +0100 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 11:52:04AM -0800, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> I updated my main machine to Bookworm (12.2, kernel 6.1.0.13-amd64) >> some time ago and it's running well. >> >> I read the fuss about EXT4 file system corruption. At f

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

2024-01-29 Thread Max Nikulin
On 30/01/2024 08:21, Byunghee HWANG (황병희) wrote: nm-online nmcli nmcli connection nmcli device /usr/sbin/NetworkManager --print-config apt list '~i~nnetwork-manager' E.g. the network-manager-config-connectivity-debian package sets connectivity test URI tohttp://network-test.debian.org/nm  see Ne

Re: Bug: Tab completion for pdf files with blanks in path

2024-01-29 Thread Max Nikulin
On 30/01/2024 02:51, David Wright wrote: . Press HOME, . Type any letter that makes a "wrong" command name (eg aokular), . Press END, The escape "Esc /" workaround has been posted in this thread already. It uses built-in readline path completion instead of BASH programmable completion. It may

Re: can't type certain letters

2024-01-29 Thread Dan Ritter
fjd wrote: > You cannot type 'w', 'r', 'y', 'u', 'o' and return key. I haven't checked if > capitals are affected or if non-alphabeticals like '$' or '=' are affected. > It's got an American keyboard. > > The problem is present when you boot direct to BIOS/UEFI. > > All I want to know are likely

Re: How to insert symbols into emails

2024-01-29 Thread Max Nikulin
On 29/01/2024 22:32, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 03:54:44PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 03:29:57PM +0100, Franco Martelli wrote: Those symbols are very nice, which tool have you used to insert them? Easy. I configured my CAPSLOCK key (which is usele

can't type certain letters

2024-01-29 Thread fjd
Greets! This is to solicit understanding as I don't need to fix the laptop. It's (or was) a trusty Asus UX330U acquired quite some years ago, in constant use since then. It runs Debian (Q4OS, TDE desktop); secondarily and rarely Windows 10. I was slowly moving to retire it. The issue crept u

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

2024-01-29 Thread 황병희
On Mon, 2024-01-29 at 22:17 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 29/01/2024 19:36, Byunghee HWANG (황병희) wrote: > > > > For months ago, i did upgrade Debian 12 to Debian Sid. At that > > time, > > Gnome network icon was odd. That appered as like question mark. > [...] > > As you see above, i removed /etc

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

2024-01-29 Thread 황병희
On Mon, 2024-01-29 at 09:35 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 29 Jan 2024 at 21:36:39 (+0900), Byunghee HWANG (황병희) wrote: > > > > For months ago, i did upgrade Debian 12 to Debian Sid. At that > > time, > > Gnome network icon was odd. That appered as like question mark. So > > after i googling,

Re: How to insert symbols into emails

2024-01-29 Thread fxkl47BF
so i defined my compose key in "/usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose" file i see a definition how do i type this

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-29 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 05:28:56PM +0100, hw wrote: > On Sun, 2024-01-28 at 21:55 +, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 09:09:17PM +0100, hw wrote: > > > On Sun, 2024-01-28 at 17:32 +, Andy Smith wrote: > > > > If someone DOES want a script option that solves that problem, a

Re: How to insert symbols into emails

2024-01-29 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 22:02:20 +0100 Franco Martelli wrote: > I read that for custom sequence I've to create a ~/.XCompose file, > but where can I find the character to map i.e. Greek letters: "α" "β" > "γ" ? Try the gucharmap package. You look a character up by name, and copy it into place. E.g.

Re: How to insert symbols into emails

2024-01-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 10:02:20PM +0100, Franco Martelli wrote: > I read that for custom sequence I've to create a ~/.XCompose file, but where > can I find the character to map i.e. Greek letters: "α" "β" "γ" ? It's a bit of a chicken-and-egg problem, admittedly. What I did was find a web page t

Re: cli64 CPU segfaults

2024-01-29 Thread Gremlin
On 1/29/24 14:35, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 29 Jan 2024 19:20 +, from ad...@matrixscience.com (Adam Weremczuk): I have 2 bare metal Debian 12.4 servers with fairly new Intel CPUs and plenty of memory. On both, dmesg continuously reports: (...) [Mon Jan 29 12:13:00 2024] cli64[1666090]: se

Re: How to insert symbols into emails

2024-01-29 Thread Franco Martelli
On 29/01/24 at 16:32, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 03:54:44PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 03:29:57PM +0100, Franco Martelli wrote: Those symbols are very nice, which tool have you used to insert them? Easy. I configured my CAPSLOCK key (which is usel

Re: Bug: Tab completion for pdf files with blanks in path

2024-01-29 Thread Michael Kiermaier
On 1/29/24 20:59, Greg Wooledge wrote: complete -r isn't intended as a workaround. It's intended as a diagnostic step. Seeing the problem go away when completion goes away means that the problem is *in* the completion. Thus, he knows which package to file a bug report against. Yes, I underst

Re: File has unexpected size (x != y). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: ...] ...

2024-01-29 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 1/29/24, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 27 Jan 2024 at 14:50:25 (+), Albretch Mueller wrote: >> On 1/19/24, David Wright wrote: >> > On Fri 19 Jan 2024 at 22:19:21 (+), Albretch Mueller wrote: >> >> Package dependencies to me are just DAGs, >> > Are they? No circular dependencies? >> >>

Re: Bug: Tab completion for pdf files with blanks in path

2024-01-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 01:51:19PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 29 Jan 2024 at 19:31:50 (+0100), Michael Kiermaier wrote: > > Thank you for your responses! After 'complete -r' the problem > > disappears. I should add that I never touched the autocomplete settings. > > No, but you lose your

Re: Encrypted partiotions - which files related?

2024-01-29 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jan 2024 at 16:12:30 (+0100), Hans wrote: > > That appears to be too much overhead to me... virtual machines (for > > server as full OS) seem much more appropriate to me, in particular as > > differences between in-VM and physical devices are pretty much (not > > completely, though!) abst

Re: Bug: Tab completion for pdf files with blanks in path

2024-01-29 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jan 2024 at 19:31:50 (+0100), Michael Kiermaier wrote: > On 1/29/24 18:59, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 12:05:24AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > On 29/01/2024 19:40, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > Let me test that as well > > > [...] > > > > unicorn:/tmp$ xyz dir\

Re: cli64 CPU segfaults

2024-01-29 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 29 Jan 2024 19:20 +, from ad...@matrixscience.com (Adam Weremczuk): > I have 2 bare metal Debian 12.4 servers with fairly new Intel CPUs and > plenty of memory. > > On both, dmesg continuously reports: > > (...) > [Mon Jan 29 12:13:00 2024] cli64[1666090]: segfault at 0 ip 0040dd3b

Re: cli64 CPU segfaults

2024-01-29 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 07:20:14PM +, Adam Weremczuk wrote: I have 2 bare metal Debian 12.4 servers with fairly new Intel CPUs and plenty of memory. On both, dmesg continuously reports: (...) [Mon Jan 29 12:13:00 2024] cli64[1666090]: segfault at 0 ip 0040dd3b sp 7ffc2bfba630 er

cli64 CPU segfaults

2024-01-29 Thread Adam Weremczuk
Hi all, I have 2 bare metal Debian 12.4 servers with fairly new Intel CPUs and plenty of memory. On both, dmesg continuously reports: (...) [Mon Jan 29 12:13:00 2024] cli64[1666090]: segfault at 0 ip 0040dd3b sp 7ffc2bfba630 error 4 in cli64[40+18a000] likely on CPU 41 (core

Re: Bug: Tab completion for pdf files with blanks in path

2024-01-29 Thread Michael Kiermaier
On 1/29/24 18:59, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 12:05:24AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: On 29/01/2024 19:40, Greg Wooledge wrote: Let me test that as well [...] unicorn:/tmp$ xyz dir\ with\ blanks/dir2/file "okular" is important here. Only limited set of file name suffixes a

Re: Bug: Tab completion for pdf files with blanks in path

2024-01-29 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jan 2024 at 12:59:39 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 12:05:24AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 29/01/2024 19:40, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > Let me test that as well > > [...] > > > unicorn:/tmp$ xyz dir\ with\ blanks/dir2/file > > > > "okular" is important h

Re: Bug: Tab completion for pdf files with blanks in path

2024-01-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 12:05:24AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 29/01/2024 19:40, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Let me test that as well > [...] > > unicorn:/tmp$ xyz dir\ with\ blanks/dir2/file > > "okular" is important here. Only limited set of file name suffixes are > allowed for some commands

Re: Can't list root directory

2024-01-29 Thread Hans
Hi Gary, before loosing any data, I suggest, to boot from a liuvefile linux. Please use a modern livefile like Knoppix or Kali-Linux. If it is not a BIOS problem, you should see the device again and are able to mount it. If /root is on a seperated partition, you can do some filesystem checks,

Re: Can't list root directory

2024-01-29 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 11:42:14AM -0500, Gary Dale wrote: > I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 workstation. I've lost the ability to > see the root directory even when I am logged in as root (su -). > > This has been happening intermittently for several months. I initially > thought it might b

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-29 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 05:52:38PM +0100, hw wrote: [...] > Ok in that case, hardware RAID is a requirement for machines with UEFI > BIOS since otherwise their reliability is insufficient. The price you pay for hardware RAID is that you need a compatible controller if you take your disks elsewhe

Can't list root directory

2024-01-29 Thread Gary Dale
I'm running Debian/Trixie on an AMD64 workstation. I've lost the ability to see the root directory even when I am logged in as root (su -). This has been happening intermittently for several months. I initially thought it might be related to failing NVME drive that was part of a RAID1 array th

Re: Changing The PSI Definition

2024-01-29 Thread hw
On Fri, 2024-01-26 at 07:25 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 07:32:38PM -0500, Thomas George wrote: > > > The current PSI works perfectly but I don't like the pale green prompt. > > > > > > Tried editing .bashrd , /ext/fprofile and /ext/bash.bashrc but n

Re: Bug: Tab completion for pdf files with blanks in path

2024-01-29 Thread Max Nikulin
On 29/01/2024 19:40, Greg Wooledge wrote: Let me test that as well [...] unicorn:/tmp$ xyz dir\ with\ blanks/dir2/file "okular" is important here. Only limited set of file name suffixes are allowed for some commands. You do not need to have okular installed, completion rules are part of

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-29 Thread Nicolas George
hw (12024-01-29): > Ok in that case, hardware RAID is a requirement for machines with UEFI That is not true, you can still put the RAID in a partition and keep the boot partitions in sync manually or with scripts. -- Nicolas George

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-29 Thread hw
On Mon, 2024-01-29 at 14:45 +0100, Franco Martelli wrote: > On 28/01/24 at 17:17, hw wrote: > > On Fri, 2024-01-26 at 16:57 +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > > > hw (12024-01-26): > > > > How do you make the BIOS read the EFI partition when it's on mdadm > > > > RAID? > > > > > > I have not yet teste

A Clean Office Is A Happy Office

2024-01-29 Thread Linda Silva
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Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-29 Thread hw
On Sun, 2024-01-28 at 21:55 +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 09:09:17PM +0100, hw wrote: > > On Sun, 2024-01-28 at 17:32 +, Andy Smith wrote: > > > If someone DOES want a script option that solves that problem, a > > > couple of actual working scripts were supplied

Re: How to insert symbols into emails (was: Re: Monospace fonts, Re: Changing The PSI Definition)

2024-01-29 Thread Bret Busby
On 29/1/24 22:54, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 03:29:57PM +0100, Franco Martelli wrote: On 26/01/24 at 20:50, David Wright wrote: I'll give a shout-out for Hack,¹ which I can't fault for use in xterms. Comparingxterm -geometry 80x25+0+0 -fa hack -fs 16 with xterm -geome

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

2024-01-29 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jan 2024 at 21:36:39 (+0900), Byunghee HWANG (황병희) wrote: > > For months ago, i did upgrade Debian 12 to Debian Sid. At that time, > Gnome network icon was odd. That appered as like question mark. So > after i googling, i removed some file in /etc. Then OK! The Internet is > started. (i

Re: Bug: Tab completion for pdf files with blanks in path

2024-01-29 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jan 2024 at 07:40:13 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 09:32:18AM +0100, Michael Kiermaier wrote: > > I would like to run okular opening the pdf file > > ~/dir1\ with\ blanks/dir2/file.pdf > > via command line. In konsole I type > > okular ~/dir1\ with\ b

Re: How to insert symbols into emails

2024-01-29 Thread davenull
Hello, On 2024-01-29 15:29, Franco Martelli wrote: On 26/01/24 at 20:50, David Wright wrote: I'll give a shout-out for Hack,¹ which I can't fault for use in xterms. Comparingxterm -geometry 80x25+0+0 -fa hack -fs 16 with xterm -geometry 80x25+0+0 -fa inconsolata -fs 18 (to make the sizes

Re: How to insert symbols into emails (was: Re: Monospace fonts, Re: Changing The PSI Definition)

2024-01-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 03:54:44PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 03:29:57PM +0100, Franco Martelli wrote: > > Those symbols are very nice, which tool have you used to insert them? > > Easy. I configured my CAPSLOCK key (which is useless IMO) to be > my X compose key. So

Re: Encrypted partiotions - which files related?

2024-01-29 Thread Hans
Hi Arno, > > That appears to be too much overhead to me... virtual machines (for > server as full OS) seem much more appropriate to me, in particular as > differences between in-VM and physical devices are pretty much (not > completely, though!) abstracted away these days. > non no, that is exac

Re: How to insert symbols into emails (was: Re: Monospace fonts, Re: Changing The PSI Definition)

2024-01-29 Thread Michael Grant
On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 03:29:57PM +0100, Franco Martelli wrote: > On 26/01/24 at 20:50, David Wright wrote: > I'll give a shout-out for Hack,¹ > which I can't fault for use in > xterms. Comparing xterm -geometry 80x25+0+0 > -fa hack -fs 16 > with xterm -geometry 80x25+0 Sangu verification: > ⓘ No

Re: How to insert symbols into emails (was: Re: Monospace fonts, Re: Changing The PSI Definition)

2024-01-29 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 03:29:57PM +0100, Franco Martelli wrote: > On 26/01/24 at 20:50, David Wright wrote: > > I'll give a shout-out for Hack,¹ which I can't fault for use in > > xterms. Comparingxterm -geometry 80x25+0+0 -fa hack -fs 16 > > with xterm -geometry 80x25+0+0 -fa inconsolata -f

How to insert symbols into emails (was: Re: Monospace fonts, Re: Changing The PSI Definition)

2024-01-29 Thread Franco Martelli
On 26/01/24 at 20:50, David Wright wrote: I'll give a shout-out for Hack,¹ which I can't fault for use in xterms. Comparingxterm -geometry 80x25+0+0 -fa hack -fs 16 with xterm -geometry 80x25+0+0 -fa inconsolata -fs 18 (to make the sizes roughly the same), I find the inconsolata stroke widt

Re: Automatically installing GRUB on multiple drives

2024-01-29 Thread Franco Martelli
On 28/01/24 at 17:17, hw wrote: On Fri, 2024-01-26 at 16:57 +0100, Nicolas George wrote: hw (12024-01-26): How do you make the BIOS read the EFI partition when it's on mdadm RAID? I have not yet tested but my working hypothesis is that the firmware will just ignore the RAID and read the EFI p

Re: Bug: Tab completion for pdf files with blanks in path

2024-01-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 09:32:18AM +0100, Michael Kiermaier wrote: > I would like to run okular opening the pdf file > ~/dir1\ with\ blanks/dir2/file.pdf > via command line. In konsole I type > okular ~/dir1\ with\ blanks/ > and hit the tab key twice for autocomplete. But I won't get

Q: Gnome network odd

2024-01-29 Thread 황병희
Hellow Debian hackers, For months ago, i did upgrade Debian 12 to Debian Sid. At that time, Gnome network icon was odd. That appered as like question mark. So after i googling, i removed some file in /etc. Then OK! The Internet is started. (i did googling with smartphone). soyeomul@thinkpad-e49

Re: Encrypted partiotions - which files related?

2024-01-29 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hello Hans, Am 29.01.2024 um 12:34 schrieb Hans: Am Montag, 29. Januar 2024, 12:16:14 CET schrieb Arno Lehmann: Hi Arno, yes, I saw the option SRCDISK. For my understanding it is used, when you want to mount a an alien system i.e. via network and make a livefile from this. But even I will do s

Re: Encrypted partiotions - which files related?

2024-01-29 Thread Hans
Am Montag, 29. Januar 2024, 12:16:14 CET schrieb Arno Lehmann: Hi Arno, yes, I saw the option SRCDISK. For my understanding it is used, when you want to mount a an alien system i.e. via network and make a livefile from this. But even I will do so, still all files will be copied to the livefilesy

Re: Encrypted partiotions - which files related?

2024-01-29 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi Hans, Am 29.01.2024 um 11:30 schrieb Hans: Hi folks, I created a livefile system with bootcdwrite from a system with encrypted partitions. Everything is working fine, but ... Checking the manual for bootcdwrite.conf, I find OPTIONS SRCDISK The Variables SRCDISK defines the root of the f

Encrypted partiotions - which files related?

2024-01-29 Thread Hans
Hi folks, I created a livefile system with bootcdwrite from a system with encrypted partitions. Everything is working fine, but strangely the livefile discovers the encrypted partitions and wants the decryption keys. This is wondering me, because the livefile is running in RAM and should not

Bug: Tab completion for pdf files with blanks in path

2024-01-29 Thread Michael Kiermaier
Dear Debian Team, I think I found a bug, and I'm writing to this list as I don't know the associated package (according to https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting). I'm experiencing this bug in konsole (KDE's terminal emulator), but the same bug has been reported here https://askubuntu.com/