Re: Apt 2 not fully installed or removed.

2023-12-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Dec 09, 2023 at 02:26:41AM -0500, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > I figured out the problem and apt is working fine now. It would be nice for you to elaborate, both to satisfy my curiosity 😀 and to provide a search engine hit for anyone encountering this in future. Thanks, Andy --

Re: Apt 2 not fully installed or removed.

2023-12-08 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sat, Dec 9, 2023 at 2:11 AM Timothy M Butterworth < timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > All, > > I am having a problem with apt. I tried to remove php-horde and it failed > to fully remove. Now it generates an error message. Any suggestions? > > sudo apt remove php-horde > Reading packa

Re: Apt 2 not fully installed or removed.

2023-12-08 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Dec 09, 2023 at 02:11:54AM -0500, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > /var/lib/dpkg/info/php-horde.postrm: 28: /etc/apache2/envvars: > /etc/default/locale: Permission denied The postrm script of php-horde is failing, so the package cannot be properly uninstalled. I'd look in /var/lib/dpkg/

Apt 2 not fully installed or removed.

2023-12-08 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
All, I am having a problem with apt. I tried to remove php-horde and it failed to fully remove. Now it generates an error message. Any suggestions? sudo apt remove php-horde Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading state information... Done The following packages wil

Re: debian forgot usr pw

2023-12-08 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 7:56 AM Pocket wrote: > > On 12/8/23 00:05, John Hasler wrote: > > Gene writes: > >> AND (horrors) have written it down. > > That's the right thing to do. > > Well you could always use the universal password of password > > I use for example i use the following > > for the

ntpsec as servr question

2023-12-08 Thread gene heskett
Actually I did find it, was not a journalctl command but tcpdump. So call in the St Bernards. Thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect fo

ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-08 Thread gene heskett
I had a total crash and among the things missing after the psu was replaced, was apparently all my tbird message tags, as I had been tagging this whole thread so I could look it up again after the dust settled. But now I have no tags. ISTR someone gave me a journalctl line that picked out all

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 7:36 AM Andre Rodier wrote: > > First, if this post is off-topic, feel free to give me other mailing lists. The eevblog may be another place to ask. But be warned, the folks on the eevblog can get really deep into the weeds on subjects like this. If you are not careful, the

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-08 Thread Pocket
On 12/8/23 17:55, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 04:50:04PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: Greg writes: cc(1) and make(1) would like to have a talk with you. Those are applications and can do whatever they want. The OS does not care about extensions. What do you consider "the OS"

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-08 Thread Pocket
On 12/8/23 18:17, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 05:59:58PM -0500, Pocket wrote: On 12/8/23 17:54, Greg Wooledge wrote: cc(1) looks at the file extension to decide what kind of content each named argument file is expected to contain. No it looks for a suffix So Debian files ha

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 05:59:58PM -0500, Pocket wrote: > On 12/8/23 17:54, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > cc(1) looks at the file extension to decide what kind of content each > > named argument file is expected to contain. > No it looks for a suffix So Debian files have "suffixes" and Windows files h

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-08 Thread mick.crane
On 2023-12-08 22:55, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 04:50:04PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: Greg writes: > cc(1) and make(1) would like to have a talk with you. Those are applications and can do whatever they want. The OS does not care about extensions. What do you consider "the O

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-08 Thread Pocket
On 12/8/23 17:54, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 05:41:57PM -0500, Pocket wrote: On 12/8/23 17:31, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 05:06:15PM -0500, Pocket wrote: In Unix and Linux there isn't a file extension, that is a microsoft invention. cc(1) and make(1) would

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 04:50:04PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Greg writes: > > cc(1) and make(1) would like to have a talk with you. > > Those are applications and can do whatever they want. The OS does not > care about extensions. What do you consider "the OS" to be, then?

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 05:41:57PM -0500, Pocket wrote: > > On 12/8/23 17:31, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 05:06:15PM -0500, Pocket wrote: > > > In Unix and Linux there isn't a file extension, that is a microsoft > > > invention. > > cc(1) and make(1) would like to have a talk

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-08 Thread Pocket
On 12/8/23 17:41, Pocket wrote: On 12/8/23 17:31, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 05:06:15PM -0500, Pocket wrote: In Unix and Linux there isn't a file extension, that is a microsoft invention. cc(1) and make(1) would like to have a talk with you. Linux/Unix filenaming specs w

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-08 Thread John Hasler
Greg writes: > cc(1) and make(1) would like to have a talk with you. Those are applications and can do whatever they want. The OS does not care about extensions. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread John Hasler
Piotr writes: > You could have contacted them to get a replacement, 100% faulty phone > calls means Qualcomm modem was faulty. But I assume you contacted them > and were unhappy with the result, hence your negative opinion on > provided customer support, or lack thereof. They were willing to sell

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-08 Thread Pocket
On 12/8/23 17:31, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 05:06:15PM -0500, Pocket wrote: In Unix and Linux there isn't a file extension, that is a microsoft invention. cc(1) and make(1) would like to have a talk with you. Linux/Unix filenaming specs would like to inform you. file spe

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 05:06:15PM -0500, Pocket wrote: > In Unix and Linux there isn't a file extension, that is a microsoft > invention. cc(1) and make(1) would like to have a talk with you.

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-08 Thread Pocket
On 12/8/23 16:53, David wrote: On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 at 21:45, Paul M Foster wrote: On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 11:04:54AM -0600, David Wright wrote: On Fri 08 Dec 2023 at 11:56:12 (-0500), Paul M Foster wrote: I'm on Debian bookworm, using neomutt for email. Where there is an image to view, viewi

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-08 Thread David
On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 at 21:45, Paul M Foster wrote: > On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 11:04:54AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 08 Dec 2023 at 11:56:12 (-0500), Paul M Foster wrote: > > > I'm on Debian bookworm, using neomutt for email. Where there is an image > > > to > > > view, viewing it in neo

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-08 Thread Paul M Foster
On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 11:04:54AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 08 Dec 2023 at 11:56:12 (-0500), Paul M Foster wrote: > > > > I'm on Debian bookworm, using neomutt for email. Where there is an image to > > view, viewing it in neomutt calls up one of the ImageMagick programs. I've > > set

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread debian-user
piorunz wrote: > On 06/12/2023 07:45, Andre Rodier wrote: > > If you also know a small phone supporting Debian, it could be fine > > as well. **I don't need phone functions like, bluetooth, wifi, > > etc.** > > Pinephone tick this box. It works quite well, for early development > Linux phone. O

Re: debian forgot usr pw

2023-12-08 Thread David Christensen
On 12/7/23 17:06, gene heskett wrote: I had a 3d slicer I was quitting to restart it and re-organish its caxhe, took my machine to a lockup showing half a workspace on one half the screen and half an adjacent workspace on the other half of the screen, no responce to the keyboard and no mouse. 2

Re: zfs load-key on boot randomly reports wrong password if I type too fast

2023-12-08 Thread David Wright
On Fri 08 Dec 2023 at 21:22:23 (+0100), cen wrote: > > I have an encrypted ZFS volume which I unlock at boot time using this > systemd service: > > [Unit] > DefaultDependencies=no > After=zfs-import.target > Before=zfs-mount.service > > [Service] > Type=oneshot > RemainAfterExit=yes > ExecStart=

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread piorunz
On 08/12/2023 18:13, John Hasler wrote: I wrote: No support when it doesn't, though. Okay. I was never able to get it to complete a phone call. Attempts produced inconsistent results. Some results of searches indicated that the card might need to be activated on another phone (I didn't ha

Re: zfs load-key on boot randomly reports wrong password if I type too fast

2023-12-08 Thread David
On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 at 20:22, cen wrote: > I have a very weird issue that.. if I type too fast the password is wrong. I > know this sounds weird but it's true.. > > I can type the same password fast and it is wrong, then I type it very slowly > the third time and it works. > > I feel like it mus

Re: Xorg fails, no gui: systemd issue?

2023-12-08 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 06:13:59PM +, John - wrote: > Since I last (3 December) upgraded the software (sid)  on my old Thinkpad, my > gui fails to come up. The last line of /var/log/Xorg.0.log reads: > (EE) systemd-login: failed to take device /dev/dri/card0: Message recipient > disconnected

zfs load-key on boot randomly reports wrong password if I type too fast

2023-12-08 Thread cen
Hi I have an encrypted ZFS volume which I unlock at boot time using this systemd service: [Unit] DefaultDependencies=no After=zfs-import.target Before=zfs-mount.service [Service] Type=oneshot RemainAfterExit=yes ExecStart=/usr/sbin/zfs load-key -a StandardInput=tty-force [Install] WantedBy=z

Re: debian forgot usr pw

2023-12-08 Thread Anders Andersson
On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 9:10 AM wrote: > > On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 12:17:35 +0700 > Max Nikulin wrote: > > > > On 08/12/2023 08:49, gene heskett wrote: > >> I've now set a root pw, about 34 chars, so they'll be a couple eons > >>guessing it AND (horrors) have written it down. > > > > Consider pass ph

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread Pocket
On 12/8/23 13:13, John Hasler wrote: Too bad: it does everything I want except make phone calls. Phones now a days are not expected nor intended to make phone calls -- It's not easy to be me

Xorg fails, no gui: systemd issue?

2023-12-08 Thread John -
Since I last (3 December) upgraded the software (sid)  on my old Thinkpad, my gui fails to come up. The last line of /var/log/Xorg.0.log reads: (EE) systemd-login: failed to take device /dev/dri/card0: Message recipient disconnected from message bus without replying I've  been trying for weeks to

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread John Hasler
Piotr writes: > Pinephone tick this box. It works quite well, for early development > Linux phone. I wrote: > No support when it doesn't, though. piorunz: > Why you say so? What doesn't? I was never able to get it to complete a phone call. Attempts produced inconsistent results. Some results o

Re: user perms

2023-12-08 Thread gene heskett
On 12/8/23 12:11, David Wright wrote: On Mon 13 Jun 2022 at 19:03:47 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: On 6/13/22 14:36, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 01:56:12PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: >> I appear as user 1000 seem to be stuck behind some sort of a >> permissions wall. > > SHOW.

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread piorunz
On 08/12/2023 15:20, John Hasler wrote: Piotr writes: Pinephone tick this box. It works quite well, for early development Linux phone. No support when it doesn't, though. Why you say so? What doesn't? It worked for me quite well, as a device in early development. I really liked it. I passed

Re: user perms

2023-12-08 Thread David Wright
On Mon 13 Jun 2022 at 19:03:47 (-0400), gene heskett wrote: > On 6/13/22 14:36, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 01:56:12PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: >> > > I appear as user 1000 seem to be stuck behind some sort of a >> > permissions wall. > > SHOW. US. > > I got tired of fighti

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-08 Thread David Wright
On Thu 07 Dec 2023 at 22:07:44 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 09:38:43AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > - IANA TZ DB does not support timezones disappeared before 1970. > > > > Ohhh, *this* is the kind of reference I

Re: Image handling in mutt

2023-12-08 Thread David Wright
On Fri 08 Dec 2023 at 11:56:12 (-0500), Paul M Foster wrote: > > I'm on Debian bookworm, using neomutt for email. Where there is an image to > view, viewing it in neomutt calls up one of the ImageMagick programs. I've set > the mailcap_path variable in my neomutt config to point to ~/.mailcap, and

Image handling in mutt

2023-12-08 Thread Paul M Foster
Folks: I'm on Debian bookworm, using neomutt for email. Where there is an image to view, viewing it in neomutt calls up one of the ImageMagick programs. I've set the mailcap_path variable in my neomutt config to point to ~/.mailcap, and set an entry in there for image/jpg to point to /usr/bin/feh.

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 04:12:54PM +, Bonno Bloksma wrote: > Hi Greg, > > bool isleapyear (int year) { > > if (year % 400 == 0) return true; > > if (year % 100 == 0) return false; > > if (year % 4 == 0) return true; > > return false; > > } > > Except, I think it should be in re

RE: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-08 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi Greg, > The rule for leap years is: > > Every year that is exactly divisible by four is a leap year, except > for years that are exactly divisible by 100, but these centurial years > are leap years if they are exactly divisible by 400. For example, the > years 1700, 1800, and 1900 are

Re: Could not find interfaces configuration file /etc/network/interfaces in Debian Linux 11 (bullseye)

2023-12-08 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
On Friday, December 8th, 2023 at 11:23 PM, John Hasler wrote: > Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming writes: > > > You managed to install OpenWRT on an Ubiquiti router? > > > Yes. It was quite straightforward. Instructions on the OpenWRT site. > -- > John Hasler > j...@sugarbit.com >

Re: Could not find interfaces configuration file /etc/network/interfaces in Debian Linux 11 (bullseye)

2023-12-08 Thread John Hasler
Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming writes: > You managed to install OpenWRT on an Ubiquiti router? Yes. It was quite straightforward. Instructions on the OpenWRT site. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread John Hasler
Piotr writes: > Pinephone tick this box. It works quite well, for early development > Linux phone. No support when it doesn't, though. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Could not find interfaces configuration file /etc/network/interfaces in Debian Linux 11 (bullseye)

2023-12-08 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
On Friday, December 8th, 2023 at 6:15 AM, John Hasler wrote: > Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > > > UDM Pro runs Debian 11 (bullseye) > > > I have a Ubiquiti router. Before I installed OpenWRT I explored the OS. > It uses packages from Bullseye but it is certainly not Debian.

Re: Could not find interfaces configuration file /etc/network/interfaces in Debian Linux 11 (bullseye)

2023-12-08 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
On Friday, December 8th, 2023 at 6:08 AM, jeremy ardley wrote: > On 7/12/23 23:52, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > > > Subject: Could not find interfaces configuration file > > /etc/network/interfaces in Debian Linux 11 (bullseye) > > > > You should confirm that the device

Re: Could not find interfaces configuration file /etc/network/interfaces in Debian Linux 11 (bullseye)

2023-12-08 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
On Friday, December 8th, 2023 at 6:05 AM, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 03:52:20PM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming > wrote: > > > UDM Pro runs Debian 11 (bullseye) > > > I don't think it does. Just because you found a file on the > filesystem that sa

Re: Could not find interfaces configuration file /etc/network/interfaces in Debian Linux 11 (bullseye)

2023-12-08 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
On Friday, December 8th, 2023 at 12:19 AM, Dan Purgert wrote: > On Dec 07, 2023, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 03:52:20PM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming > > wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > Problem > > > = > > > > > > On 6 Dec 2023, our client d

Re: Could not find interfaces configuration file /etc/network/interfaces in Debian Linux 11 (bullseye)

2023-12-08 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
On Friday, December 8th, 2023 at 12:12 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 03:52:20PM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming > wrote: > > [...] > > > Problem > > = > > > > On 6 Dec 2023, our client discovered that their UDM Pro could not perform > > firmwa

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, gene heskett wrote: > > In the FWIW dept this time formula is pretty accurate back to the > > middle of 4713 BC. Greg Wooledge wrote: > Even the *Julian* calendar used in ancient Rome wouldn't have been in > use in 4713 BC. Any calendar would have been locally defined, if one > existed at al

Re: Hardware TOTP on Linux

2023-12-08 Thread piorunz
On 06/12/2023 07:45, Andre Rodier wrote: If you also know a small phone supporting Debian, it could be fine as well. **I don't need phone functions like, bluetooth, wifi, etc.** Pinephone tick this box. It works quite well, for early development Linux phone. Operating system you want is Mobian,

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-08 Thread tomas
On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 07:32:25AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > Also, the idea that a calculation of *anything* in our current Gregorian > calendar system would extend back to a BC date is ludicrous [...] The high-class version of this swear word would be "proleptic". But yeah, I agree wi

Re: Recommended simple PDF viewer to replace Evince

2023-12-08 Thread Charles Kroeger
> Try xpdf, but be aware it doesn't support forms nor other special stuff > in PDF like video. qpdfview is awfully simple. #apt install qpdfview (does well with trixie and sid) It prints well with CUPS that provides a driver for my Kyocera FS-920 b&w laser printer. That printer is 15 years old.

Re: debian forgot usr pw

2023-12-08 Thread Pocket
On 12/8/23 00:05, John Hasler wrote: Gene writes: AND (horrors) have written it down. That's the right thing to do. Well you could always use the universal password of password I use for example i use the following for the root account the password is root for my user account of pocket t

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 11:19:19PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > [...] a method for determining leap years. It was also > used in some astronomical programs for lunar and solar eclipses. This I > think was the reason that all unix times start at midnight 1/1/1970. In the > FWIW dept this time formul

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 11:19:19PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > Of minor interest to me, not once in the above link does it credit the K&R > Manual for C, which has a method for determining leap years. The what now? Leap years are defined by the Gregorian Calendar, as declared in the 16th century

Re: debian forgot usr pw

2023-12-08 Thread debian-user
y...@vienna.at wrote: > On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 12:17:35 +0700 > Max Nikulin wrote: > > > > On 08/12/2023 08:49, gene heskett wrote: > >> I've now set a root pw, about 34 chars, so they'll be a couple > >> eons > >>guessing it AND (horrors) have written it down. > > > > Consider pass phrases.

Re: debian forgot usr pw

2023-12-08 Thread yxcv
On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 12:17:35 +0700 Max Nikulin wrote: On 08/12/2023 08:49, gene heskett wrote: I've now set a root pw, about 34 chars, so they'll be a couple eons guessing it AND (horrors) have written it down. Consider pass phrases.