Re: How do I make Debian Mate look like Linux Mint Mate?

On 9/3/22 05:00, didier gaumet wrote: Le mardi 08 mars 2022 à 12:14 +, Ottavio Caruso a écrit : Hi, Warning: I might have asked this question before and somebody gave me the answer but I did not save it. My system : https://termbin.com/h9j0l I am thinking of migrating from LMDE4 to Bull

Re: Changing hardware

On 09/03/2022 04:31, Felix Miata wrote: Free drivers exist for NVidia GPUs too, nouveau for the GPU device driver, modesetting DIX and nouveau DDX to choose from for the display driver. The latter is old technology, reverse-engineered, and optional. Free drivers are terrible to use if user wa

Re: Sharing photos from Linux to Apple devices

On Tue Mar 8 20:20:41 2022 Tom Browder wrote: > Most of my relatives now have Apple devices, and we can share photos > and videos among ourselves. > > I, on my Linux computer, have about 32 Gb of slides I digitized some > years ago (they are also duplicated on my Windows computer). I have a > Go

Re: Changing hardware

piorunz composed on 2022-03-08 23:15 (UTC): > James Allsopp wrote: >> My old core2 (8gb ram) died after a power cycle,so I bought an AMD Ryzen >> 5800 with 32Gb Ram and a new motherboard and a new nvidia graphics > You could have purchased Radeon GPU... Now you will be on mercy of > Nvidia to pr

Re: Sharing photos from Linux to Apple devices

On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 18:58 Jeremy Ardley wrote: ... Put the photos into several large zip files (simply to minimise the > number of downloads). Then upload to google drive in some directory and > use the share option on the directory to give an https URL you can send > your relatives. > Thanks

Re: Google smtp and pop

Where you saw the information? I suggest to use app password instead of real password. It also easy to identify if the apps we use misbehave and grant specific permissions. -- Regards Robbi Nespu PGP: D311 B5FF EEE6 0BE8 9C91 FA9E 0C81 FA30 3B3A 80BA

Re: Sharing photos from Linux to Apple devices

On 9/3/22 8:48 am, Tom Browder wrote: Can anyone suggest a good way to get my Linux (or Windows) pictures onto some site that Apple devices can use? Thanks, -Tom Put the photos into several large zip files (simply to minimise the number of downloads). Then upload to google drive in some

Sharing photos from Linux to Apple devices

Most of my relatives now have Apple devices, and we can share photos and videos among ourselves. I, on my Linux computer, have about 32 Gb of slides I digitized some years ago (they are also duplicated on my Windows computer). I have a Google account that currently has 100 Gb of storage. I also ha

Re: Changing hardware

James Allsopp wrote: > Hi, > My old core2 (8gb ram) died after a power cycle,so I bought an AMD Ryzen > 5800 with 32Gb Ram and a new motherboard and a new nvidia graphics card.I > converted the boot system over to EFI ( > https://blog.getreu.net/projects/legacy-to-uefi-boot/). > > I was going to

Re: Problems with custom install of MATE

On Tue 08 Mar 2022 at 15:11:28 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/08/2022 12:49 PM, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 08 Mar 2022 at 07:11:51 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > As I have a very low data cap and wish to avoid some "recommended" > > > components I have done: > > > > Low data caps alwa

Re: Changing hardware

On 08/03/2022 23:00, James Allsopp wrote: Hi, My old core2 (8gb ram) died after a power cycle,so I bought an AMD Ryzen 5800 with 32Gb Ram and a new motherboard and a new nvidia graphics card.I converted the boot system over to EFI (https://blog.getreu.net/projects/legacy-to-uefi-boot/

Re: linux kernel and nvidia - never ending story

didier gaumet writes: > Le mardi 08 mars 2022 à 12:12 +, Richmond a écrit : > [...] >> I don't know if there are >> any distributions other than debian which still support kernel 4. > > A RHEL 8 clone (Almalinux, Rocky Linux...) should do: kernel is blocked > to 4.18 until EOL in 2029 (end of

Changing hardware

Hi, My old core2 (8gb ram) died after a power cycle,so I bought an AMD Ryzen 5800 with 32Gb Ram and a new motherboard and a new nvidia graphics card.I converted the boot system over to EFI ( https://blog.getreu.net/projects/legacy-to-uefi-boot/). I was going to upgrade to Debian 11 anyway, but is

Re: Dependency bug demonstrated???? - was [Re: Problems with custom install of MATE]

On Mar 08, 2022, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Before I retired I spent decades in customer and engineering support. > > Became familiar clashing desires and corner cases. > > I wasn't looking at X needing a DM, but rather that if the DE {MATE in my > > case} was going to be useful it had to start [pre

Wayland vs X

I tried Wayland some years ago now (might have been when they first trialled it in Ubuntu) but decided not to stick with it. Since more desktop environments are beginning to choose Wayland as the default display protocol, I was wondering if others think there's significant user benefits to making

Re: dirty-pipe

On Tuesday, 8 March 2022 16:06:54 EST to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 09:54:43PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 03:36:35PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > > Grettings all; > > > > > > Am I to assume that the kernel synaptic is installiing right now > >

Re: dirty-pipe

On Tuesday, 8 March 2022 15:54:43 EST to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 03:36:35PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > Grettings all; > > > > Am I to assume that the kernel synaptic is installiing right now > > fixes > > dirty-pipe? > > "The vulnerability was fixed in Linux 5.16.11,

Re: Dependency bug demonstrated???? - was [Re: Problems with custom install of MATE]

On 03/08/2022 03:10 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: Before I retired I spent decades in customer and engineering support. Became familiar clashing desires and corner cases. I wasn't looking at X needing a DM, but rather that if the DE {MATE in my case} was going to be useful it had to start [preferably

Re: dirty-pipe

gene heskett wrote: > Grettings all; > > Am I to assume that the kernel synaptic is installiing right now fixes > dirty-pipe? Yes, assuming that you're getting a linux kernel update for Bullseye today. Package: linux CVE ID : CVE-2021-43976 CVE-2022-0330 CVE-2022-0435 CVE-2022-

Re: Problems with custom install of MATE

On 03/08/2022 12:49 PM, Brian wrote: On Tue 08 Mar 2022 at 07:11:51 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: As I have a very low data cap and wish to avoid some "recommended" components I have done: Low data caps always tug at the heartstrings, but avoiding Recommends: can be a recipe for disaster (for

Re: dirty-pipe

On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 09:54:43PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 03:36:35PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > > Grettings all; > > > > Am I to assume that the kernel synaptic is installiing right now fixes > > dirty-pipe? > > "The vulnerability was fixed in Linux 5.16.11,

Re: dirty-pipe

On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 03:36:35PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > Grettings all; > > Am I to assume that the kernel synaptic is installiing right now fixes > dirty-pipe? "The vulnerability was fixed in Linux 5.16.11, 5.15.25 and 5.10.102." [1] [1] https://lwn.net/Articles/887056/ -- t signa

Re: how many W a PSU for non-gaming Debian?

Emanuel Berg writes: Linux-Fan wrote: >>> CPU power doubled to account for short-time bursts. >> >> Double it, that something one should do? > > In Intel world, yes :) In AMD world it seems to be slightly > better, cf.: > https://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph16220/119126.png > > The TDP is

Re: Dependency bug demonstrated???? - was [Re: Problems with custom install of MATE]

On 03/08/2022 10:45 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 08:40:02AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] "apt-get --no-install-recommends install lightdm" solved #1 and #2. Does that demonstrate a dependency bug? Most definitely not. X doesn't need the DM to run. Actually there

dirty-pipe

Grettings all; Am I to assume that the kernel synaptic is installiing right now fixes dirty-pipe? Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for th

Re: linux kernel and nvidia - never ending story

On 3/8/22 5:05 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 10:46:35AM +0100, Hans wrote: No, of course not. It's you to blame, for upgrading your system. Hilarious!!! (Please bear with me for a moment because it is actually tragic, but ...) Why might it be hilarious?. Well, spea

Re: Problems with custom install of MATE

On Tue 08 Mar 2022 at 07:11:51 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > As I have a very low data cap and wish to avoid some "recommended" > components I have done: Low data caps always tug at the heartstrings, but avoiding Recommends: can be a recipe for disaster (for you or us)). My recollection is that

Re: linux kernel and nvidia - never ending story

On 08.03.2022 14:40, Hans wrote: Am Dienstag, 8. März 2022, 00:07:05 CET schrieb Alexander V. Makartsev: Yes, I am sure, no other version is working. It is GeForce G210 and GeForce G86m, both NEED 340xx. In that case, I've never actually tried to do it, but since Debian support for 340xx version

Re: How do I make Debian Mate look like Linux Mint Mate?

Le mardi 08 mars 2022 à 12:14 +, Ottavio Caruso a écrit : > Hi, > > Warning: I might have asked this question before and somebody gave me > the answer but I did not save it. > > My system : https://termbin.com/h9j0l > > I am thinking of migrating from LMDE4 to Bullseye Mate but I want to

Re: linux kernel and nvidia - never ending story

Le mardi 08 mars 2022 à 12:12 +, Richmond a écrit : [...] > I don't know if there are > any distributions other than debian which still support kernel 4. A RHEL 8 clone (Almalinux, Rocky Linux...) should do: kernel is blocked to 4.18 until EOL in 2029 (end of full support may 2024, other su

Re: Dependency bug demonstrated???? - was [Re: Problems with custom install of MATE]

On Tue, 2022-03-08 at 15:54 +, Brian wrote: > Users who install a package with "--no-install-recommends owe it to > themselves to investigate the conssequences *prior* to committing to > the action. Involving a communuty in the aftermath is little short > of thoughtlessness and lack of preparat

Re: system lock up, not sure if related to "your system is too slow"

Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > As far as I know, the xserver-xorg-video-intel is deprecated for modern Intel > CPUs. With an Intel Core i7 7700 the kernel `modesetting` works well here: > > Something like > > Section "Device" >Identifier "Intel Graphics" >Driver "modesetting" > EndSectio

Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 09:06:45AM -0600, David Wright wrote: [...] > Sorry to disappoint, but I think we're dealing with > repetition here, rather than recursion: > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/10/msg00589.html Fans of classical functional languages repeat through recursion, any

Re: Dependency bug demonstrated???? - was [Re: Problems with custom install of MATE]

On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 08:40:02AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] > "apt-get --no-install-recommends install lightdm" solved #1 and #2. > Does that demonstrate a dependency bug? Most definitely not. X doesn't need the DM to run. Actually there are folks out there that want to start up in con

Re: Pulseaudio goes into an uninterruptible sleep upon start

Who knows what pulseaudio developers were smoking when they wrote that code. I'm glad you got this solved for now. I hope it's permanently solved for you too. On Tue, 8 Mar 2022, Daniel Fishman wrote: > The first two things didn't work, but while I worked on a switch to > pipewire (with a limi

Re: Dependency bug demonstrated???? - was [Re: Problems with custom install of MATE]

On Tue 08 Mar 2022 at 09:06:27 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 08 Mar 2022 at 08:40:02 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: [..] > > "apt-get --no-install-recommends install lightdm" solved #1 and #2. > > Does that demonstrate a dependency bug? > > Last paragraph of: > https://lists.debian.org/d

Re: Problems with custom install of MATE

On 2022-03-08 15:50 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote: > I have SeaMonkey launched from "Internet" sub-menu of "Applications" > menu. IIRC it was only a couple of mouse clicks to get it there. If you don't have some Debian/Snap/Flatpak package from some source available, I know no other way to i

Re: system lock up, not sure if related to "your system is too slow"

Greg Wooledge wrote: ... > You shouldn't even need to create that xorg.conf.d snippet. It should > just work automatically. removing the xserver-xorg-video-intel package left me with a command line only system. so i had to reinstall that. > You *will* however most likely need to install som

Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?

On Wed 02 Mar 2022 at 09:01:55 (+0100), Stella Ashburne wrote: > From: "David Wright" > > > > As long as you have "source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*" in your > > /e/n/interfaces file, then you can call the file wlp7s0, or wlp3s0, > > or anything else, and it will be read. That line in quotes is n

Re: What should I put inside the file called wlan0?

On Thu 03 Mar 2022 at 19:44:35 (+0100), Stella Ashburne wrote: > From: "David Wright" > > > > In addition, when using "source-directory"¹, you can leave all the > > configuration files in place, and deactivate them by, say, adding > > a disallowed character to their filenames, rather than having t

Re: Installing minimal command line system with netinst.iso

On Thu 03 Mar 2022 at 14:24:29 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > I have limited internet connectivity. > I have read over the years that installing a *MINIMAL* command line > system from netinst.iso [without internet is possible]. > The intent to add pieces later assumed. > Is this process described

Re: Pulseaudio goes into an uninterruptible sleep upon start

The first two things didn't work, but while I worked on a switch to pipewire (with a limited success, since pipewire is experimental in the current stable and misses important features that I need and which are already available in pulseaudio), I stumbled upon a workaround which fixed the problem

Re: Launch a minimal MATE DE

On Tue 08 Mar 2022 at 07:00:08 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 01:54:11PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > > [...] > > > Just to solve the infinite recursion problem: > > > > richard@zircon:~$ apt-file search bin/apt-file > > apt-file: /usr/bin/apt-file > > > > so insta

Re: Dependency bug demonstrated???? - was [Re: Problems with custom install of MATE]

On Tue 08 Mar 2022 at 08:40:02 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/08/2022 07:32 AM, Richmond wrote: > > Richard Owlett writes: > > > > > As I have a very low data cap and wish to avoid some "recommended" > > > components I have done: > > > 1. a text mode install [including "standard utilities

Re: Problems with custom install of MATE

On 03/08/2022 08:37 AM, Christian Britz wrote: On 2022-03-08 14:11 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote: 4. I'll be installing SeaMonkey but have forgotten how to have it appear on appropriate Applications sub-menu. As there is no Debian package for SeaMonkey, you will probably extract the bi

Dependency bug demonstrated???? - was [Re: Problems with custom install of MATE]

On 03/08/2022 07:32 AM, Richmond wrote: Richard Owlett writes: As I have a very low data cap and wish to avoid some "recommended" components I have done: 1. a text mode install [including "standard utilities"] using debian-11.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso . 2. apt-get --no-install-recommends insta

Re: Problems with custom install of MATE

On 2022-03-08 14:11 UTC+0100, Richard Owlett wrote: > 4. I'll be installing SeaMonkey but have forgotten how to have it appear > on appropriate Applications sub-menu. As there is no Debian package for SeaMonkey, you will probably extract the binaries from seamonkey-project.org somewhere. To

[SOLVED] Re: KDE: widget settings location

Mar 7, 2022, 16:00 by loca...@tutanota.com: > Perhaps I need to clarify that I'm looking for my Digital Clock widget *user* > settings. When one goes into the "Configure Digital Clock" window and selects > different options (for example, "Show date", "Time display format", "Date > format", etc)

Re: Problems with custom install of MATE

Richard Owlett writes: > As I have a very low data cap and wish to avoid some "recommended" > components I have done: > 1. a text mode install [including "standard utilities"] using >debian-11.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso . > 2. apt-get --no-install-recommends install mate-desktop-environment > 3. a

Problems with custom install of MATE

As I have a very low data cap and wish to avoid some "recommended" components I have done: 1. a text mode install [including "standard utilities"] using debian-11.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso . 2. apt-get --no-install-recommends install mate-desktop-environment 3. apt-get install xinit 4. apt-get --n

Re: linux kernel and nvidia - never ending story

Hans writes: > Dear list, > > how find the correct words, without being upset or stepping on > someones feet. But I believe, debian hates Nvidia, and debian does > not want, to use Nvidia. > > I am now for a long time using debian and also using nvidia graphic > cards for almost the same long ti

Re: system lock up, not sure if related to "your system is too slow"

On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 10:07:19AM +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > As far as I know, the xserver-xorg-video-intel is deprecated for modern > Intel CPUs. With an Intel Core i7 7700 the kernel `modesetting` works well > here: > > Something like > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Intel Graphics

Re: linux kernel and nvidia - never ending story

On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 06:25:54AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > (Sorry for the irony, but see, if NVIDIA's sources reference parts of > > the kernel headers which aren't guaranteed to stay stable, well...) > There is also the problem that NVidia has no incentive

Re: linux kernel and nvidia - never ending story

to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 10:46:35AM +0100, Hans wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 8. März 2022, 00:25:54 CET schrieb Stefan Monnier: > > No, you are completzely wrong! It is not Nvidia to blam,e when COMPILING > > fails! [...] > > No, of course not. It's you to blame, for upgradin

Re: linux kernel and nvidia - never ending story

On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 10:46:35AM +0100, Hans wrote: > Am Dienstag, 8. März 2022, 00:25:54 CET schrieb Stefan Monnier: > No, you are completzely wrong! It is not Nvidia to blam,e when COMPILING > fails! [...] No, of course not. It's you to blame, for upgrading your system. Just stay with your o

Re: linux kernel and nvidia - never ending story

Am Dienstag, 8. März 2022, 00:25:54 CET schrieb Stefan Monnier: No, you are completzely wrong! It is not Nvidia to blam,e when COMPILING fails! It is NOT Nvidia to blame, when the packages are REMOVED from the repo, because your KERNEL breaks the compiling! And it is NOT Nvidia to blame, when th

Re: linux kernel and nvidia - never ending story

Am Dienstag, 8. März 2022, 00:07:05 CET schrieb Alexander V. Makartsev: Yes, I am sure, no other version is working. It is GeForce G210 and GeForce G86m, both NEED 340xx. Best Hans > On 07.03.2022 23:49, Hans wrote: > > Dear list, > > > > how find the correct words, without being upset or ste

Re: system lock up, not sure if related to "your system is too slow"

As far as I know, the xserver-xorg-video-intel is deprecated for modern Intel CPUs. With an Intel Core i7 7700 the kernel `modesetting` works well here: Something like Section "Device" Identifier "Intel Graphics" Driver "modesetting" EndSection in `/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-modesetting

Re: Legacy Dell 760 apt-get updates?

On 2022-03-08 09:20 UTC+0100, cono...@panix.com (John Conover) wrote: > Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/icl_dmc_ver1_09.bin > for module i915 > > The machine seems to run fine, but do I need to add something? Yes, you want to install package firmware-misc-nonfree. And I have

Legacy Dell 760 apt-get updates?

I installed Bullseye on an antique Dell 760, and get the following when doing apt-get updates: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/icl_dmc_ver1_09.bin for module i915 The machine seems to run fine, but do I need to add something? Thanks, John -- John Conover, cono.