OT: Recommendation for a new Debian laptop

2022-01-11 Thread john doe
Debians, i've been using a laptop for a fiew years now and before this laptop dies on me I would like to buy a new laptop. I'm thinking about two options: - Buying something of the shelph and installing Debian on it - Buying a pine64 or alike - Any other alternative? The only requirement is to

Re: freeing up some space

2022-01-11 Thread David Wright
On Tue 11 Jan 2022 at 13:25:27 (-0500), Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > So I'm poking around with mc, and happened across /var/cache/apt/archives > which has a LOT of *.deb files in it, and which seems to include many > versions of the same package, some of them many years old, going all the >

Re: freeing up some space

2022-01-11 Thread David Christensen
On 1/11/22 10:25 AM, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: So I'm poking around with mc, and happened across /var/cache/apt/archives which has a LOT of *.deb files in it, and which seems to include many versions of the same package, some of them many years old, going all the way back to 2013. I gues

Re: freeing up some space

2022-01-11 Thread Ralph Katz
On 1/11/22 15:08, Marco Möller wrote: [snip] Just to give you some more inspiration about where else old stuff could have accumulated: [snip] Another useful tool to free up space and remove unneeded packages is deborphan. After running deborphan, be sure to run it again a few times as it kee

Re: 8 -> 9 update changing things

2022-01-11 Thread Kushal Kumaran
On Tue, Jan 11 2022 at 01:37:22 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 12:42:11PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: >> On Tuesday 11 January 2022 11:24:27 am Greg Wooledge wrote: >> > But if I let it start itself automatically on demand, then it works >> > straight out of the gate wit

Re: Limit dir write by storage size

2022-01-11 Thread David Christensen
On 1/11/22 10:03 AM, Yamadaえりな wrote: For a debian based system, how can I setup that, if a dir has total storage size reached to the max, it won’t be writable anymore? Thank you very much! Yamada Install Debian package "zfs-dkms". I would then reboot. Create a ZFS pool: https://linux.die

Re: freeing up some space

2022-01-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 11:11:21PM +, Brian wrote: > > apt-get clean is a fairly useful command. > > Indeed it it is. But what useful function does it perform on a default > installation? Some users appear to think that downloaded and installed > packages are preserved in /vat/cache/apt/archiv

Re: freeing up some space

2022-01-11 Thread David Wright
On Tue 11 Jan 2022 at 23:11:21 (+), Brian wrote: > On Tue 11 Jan 2022 at 19:58:55 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 01:25:27PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > > So I'm poking around with mc, and happened across > > > /var/cache/apt/archives which has a LOT of

Re: freeing up some space

2022-01-11 Thread Brian
On Tue 11 Jan 2022 at 19:58:55 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 01:25:27PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > So I'm poking around with mc, and happened across /var/cache/apt/archives > > which has a LOT of *.deb files in it, and which seems to include many > > vers

Re: freeing up some space

2022-01-11 Thread Dan Ritter
c. marlow wrote: > On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 15:07:02 -0600 > Kent West wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 1:59 PM Andrew M.A. Cater > > wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 01:25:27PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. > > > wrote: > > > > So I'm poking around with mc, and happened across > > > /va

Re: freeing up some space

2022-01-11 Thread c. marlow
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 16:06:05 -0600 "c. marlow" wrote: > > Wow, That's amazing! So that means you've only done in place upgrade > since 2013 with no nuke and pave's? > > Correction: Upgrades* Thanks, Chris If you need to email me off list, please use ch...@cwm030.com

Re: freeing up some space

2022-01-11 Thread c. marlow
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 15:07:02 -0600 Kent West wrote: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 1:59 PM Andrew M.A. Cater > wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 01:25:27PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. > > wrote: > > > So I'm poking around with mc, and happened across > > /var/cache/apt/archives which has a LOT o

Re: freeing up some space

2022-01-11 Thread Marco Möller
On 11.01.22 19:25, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: So I'm poking around with mc, and happened across /var/cache/apt/archives which has a LOT of *.deb files in it, and which seems to include many versions of the same package, some of them many years old, going all the way back to 2013. I guess

Re: freeing up some space

2022-01-11 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 04:32:20PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > Apparently the info about what's in this directory is also stored in some > database somewhere, so just going in there and deleting a bunch of stuff > will probably break something... > Yes. > > > I've mostly used sy

Re: 8 -> 9 update changing things

2022-01-11 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Tuesday 11 January 2022 02:52:10 pm Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > What version of Debian? > > > > According to /etc/debian_version 9.3... > > > > I hope that's 9.13 - so updated as at 2020-07-18. You're correct. I have a pair of glasses here that are "for the computer" and in general I a

Re: freeing up some space

2022-01-11 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Tuesday 11 January 2022 02:25:47 pm Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > On 1/11/22, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > So I'm poking around with mc, and happened across /var/cache/apt/archives > > which has a LOT of *.deb files in it, and which seems to include many > > versions of the same package, some

Re: freeing up some space

2022-01-11 Thread Kent West
On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 1:59 PM Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 01:25:27PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > So I'm poking around with mc, and happened across > /var/cache/apt/archives which has a LOT of *.deb files in it, and which > seems to include many versions of the

Re: freeing up some space

2022-01-11 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 01:25:27PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > So I'm poking around with mc, and happened across /var/cache/apt/archives > which has a LOT of *.deb files in it, and which seems to include many > versions of the same package, some of them many years old, going all the

Re: freeing up some space

2022-01-11 Thread David Wright
On Tue 11 Jan 2022 at 14:25:47 (-0500), Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > On 1/11/22, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > So I'm poking around with mc, and happened across /var/cache/apt/archives > > which has a LOT of *.deb files in it, and which seems to include many > > versions of the same package, some

Re: 8 -> 9 update changing things

2022-01-11 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 12:42:11PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > On Tuesday 11 January 2022 11:24:27 am Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 11:03:55AM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > I don't do anything much under debian that needs to have sound working, so I > hadn't

Re: freeing up some space

2022-01-11 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 1/11/22, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > So I'm poking around with mc, and happened across /var/cache/apt/archives > which has a LOT of *.deb files in it, and which seems to include many > versions of the same package, some of them many years old, going all the > way back to 2013. I guess I'v

Re: How do I change disk ?

2022-01-11 Thread Hans
Am Dienstag, 11. Januar 2022, 17:22:08 CET schrieb Pierre Couderc: Yes, should be so by default. Good luck! Hans > Thank you. I am surprised; update-grub is enough to install grub > correctly on all drives...?? > > On 1/11/22 11:24, Hans wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 11. Januar 2022, 04:38:36 CET sch

Re: freeing up some space

2022-01-11 Thread Brian
On Tue 11 Jan 2022 at 13:25:27 -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > So I'm poking around with mc, and happened across > /var/cache/apt/archives which has a LOT of *.deb files in it, and > which seems to include many versions of the same package, some of > them many years old, going all the way

Re: freeing up some space

2022-01-11 Thread Dan Ritter
Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > So I'm poking around with mc, and happened across /var/cache/apt/archives > which has a LOT of *.deb files in it, and which seems to include many > versions of the same package, some of them many years old, going all the > way back to 2013. I guess I've been ru

Re: Limit dir write by storage size

2022-01-11 Thread Dan Ritter
Yamadaえりな wrote: > For a debian based system, how can I setup that, if a dir has total storage > size reached to the max, it won’t be writable anymore? You cannot do this per-directory. You can set up a filesystem of a specific size and mount it at that location; it will fill up and not be writa

Re: 8 -> 9 update changing things

2022-01-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 12:42:11PM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > On Tuesday 11 January 2022 11:24:27 am Greg Wooledge wrote: > > But if I let it start itself automatically on demand, then it works > > straight out of the gate with no issues. So far, anyway! > > How does that "on demand" th

Re: Limit dir write by storage size

2022-01-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 02:03:45AM +0800, Yamadaえりな wrote: > For a debian based system, how can I setup that, if a dir has total storage > size reached to the max, it won’t be writable anymore? That sounds tricky. It depends on your exact needs, and the exact "threat" you're protecting against.

freeing up some space

2022-01-11 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
So I'm poking around with mc, and happened across /var/cache/apt/archives which has a LOT of *.deb files in it, and which seems to include many versions of the same package, some of them many years old, going all the way back to 2013. I guess I've been running debian a little longer than I'd

Re: 8 -> 9 update changing things

2022-01-11 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Tuesday 11 January 2022 12:27:39 pm Dan Ritter wrote: > Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > On Tuesday 11 January 2022 11:20:22 am Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > I still would like to know why the one instance of pulseaudio works and > > > > the other one doesn't. And why some things seem to be

Limit dir write by storage size

2022-01-11 Thread Yamadaえりな
For a debian based system, how can I setup that, if a dir has total storage size reached to the max, it won’t be writable anymore? Thank you very much! Yamada

Re: 8 -> 9 update changing things

2022-01-11 Thread Dan Ritter
Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > On Tuesday 11 January 2022 11:20:22 am Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > I still would like to know why the one instance of pulseaudio works and > > > the other one doesn't. And why some things seem to be included in what > > > gets started up that I don't see any nee

Re: 8 -> 9 update changing things

2022-01-11 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Tuesday 11 January 2022 11:24:27 am Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 11:03:55AM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > What I'm not clear on at this point is why the instance of it that's > > started by the system doesn't seem to work, while the one that I start > > manually at s

Re: 8 -> 9 update changing things

2022-01-11 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Tuesday 11 January 2022 11:20:22 am Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > I've run nothing but linux since 1999, starting with Slackware 4.0, and > > upgrading to newer versions from time to time. Early on I had no sound > > card in the machine that I was using, and did not implement a GUI to start

Re: libreoffice password vs zip

2022-01-11 Thread Dan Ritter
debia...@mmbit.it wrote: > Hi folks! > > unfortunately in my network I can't install nothing, so I'm forced to choose > if use libreoffice password or zip with password same files... > > in your opinion, what's the best way between them? ZIP password if you need to pass it off to someone who do

Re: How to secure access to SD cards a la USBGuard?

2022-01-11 Thread hdv@gmail
On 2022-01-11 12:41, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 02 ian 22, 20:52:25, David Wright wrote: On Fri 10 Dec 2021 at 17:20:52 (+0100), Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 06 dec 21, 10:18:49, David Wright wrote: On Sun 05 Dec 2021 at 13:33:41 (+0100), Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 12 nov 21, 12:27:59, St

Re: 8 -> 9 update changing things

2022-01-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 11:03:55AM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > What I'm not clear on at this point is why the instance of it that's started > by the system doesn't seem to work, while the one that I start manually at > some point later on does. Pulse Audio is still quite mysterious to m

Re: How do I change disk ?

2022-01-11 Thread Pierre Couderc
Thank you. I am surprised;  update-grub is enough to install grub correctly on all drives...?? On 1/11/22 11:24, Hans wrote: Am Dienstag, 11. Januar 2022, 04:38:36 CET schrieb Pierre Couderc: My way: - Boot with a live cd with clonezilla on it (i.e. clonezilla live) - clone the complete

Re: 8 -> 9 update changing things

2022-01-11 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 11:03:55AM -0500, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > On Tuesday 11 January 2022 08:18:27 am Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 01:15:05PM +0100, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Lu, 03 ian 22, 14:02:05, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > What I'm not clear on at this po

Re: How to rotate then save a PDF document?

2022-01-11 Thread Curt
On 2022-01-11, Richard Owlett wrote: > I use MATE and thus use Atril as viewer. > Typically I have no need to modify PDF documents. > I received a reading a long reading list which needs to be rotated left > to be read. Atril rotates it but does not save it as rotated. > > What's the simplest too

libreoffice password vs zip

2022-01-11 Thread debia...@mmbit.it
Hi folks! unfortunately in my network I can't install nothing, so I'm forced to choose if use libreoffice password or zip with password same files... in your opinion, what's the best way between them? thanks Pol

Re: 8 -> 9 update changing things

2022-01-11 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Tuesday 11 January 2022 08:18:27 am Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 01:15:05PM +0100, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Lu, 03 ian 22, 14:02:05, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > > In the one that was running to start with, the command line shown to > > > me in system monitor includes

Re: How to rotate then save a PDF document?

2022-01-11 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/11/2022 09:27 AM, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 11.01.2022 19:37, Richard Owlett wrote: I use MATE and thus use Atril as viewer. Typically I have no need to modify PDF documents. I received a reading a long reading list which needs to be rotated left to be read. Atril rotates it but do

Re: How to rotate then save a PDF document?

2022-01-11 Thread David Wright
On Tue 11 Jan 2022 at 08:37:37 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > I use MATE and thus use Atril as viewer. > Typically I have no need to modify PDF documents. > I received a reading a long reading list which needs to be rotated > left to be read. Atril rotates it but does not save it as rotated. > >

Re: How to rotate then save a PDF document?

2022-01-11 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, 2022-01-11 at 08:37 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > I use MATE and thus use Atril as viewer. > Typically I have no need to modify PDF documents. > I received a reading a long reading list which needs to be rotated left > to be read. Atril rotates it but does not save it as rotated. > > Wha

Re: How to rotate then save a PDF document?

2022-01-11 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 1/11/22 16:37, Richard Owlett wrote: > I use MATE and thus use Atril as viewer. > Typically I have no need to modify PDF documents. > I received a reading a long reading list which needs to be rotated left > to be read. Atril rotates it but does not save it as rotated. > > What's the simplest t

Re: How to rotate then save a PDF document?

2022-01-11 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 11.01.2022 19:37, Richard Owlett wrote: I use MATE and thus use Atril as viewer. Typically I have no need to modify PDF documents. I received a reading a long reading list which needs to be rotated left to be read. Atril rotates it but does not save it as rotated. What's the simplest tool t

rsync copyed systemd-nspawn container won't start

2022-01-11 Thread basti
Hello, i have copy a running systemd-nspawn container via rsync. The container won't start in the destination: Jan 11 15:22:55 dhanna systemd[1]: Started Container foo. Jan 11 15:22:55 dhanna systemd-nspawn[21268]: systemd 232 running in system mode. (+PAM +AUDIT +SELINUX +IMA +APPARMOR +SMACK +S

How to rotate then save a PDF document?

2022-01-11 Thread Richard Owlett
I use MATE and thus use Atril as viewer. Typically I have no need to modify PDF documents. I received a reading a long reading list which needs to be rotated left to be read. Atril rotates it but does not save it as rotated. What's the simplest tool to permanently rotate that specific document?

Re: 8 -> 9 update changing things

2022-01-11 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 01:15:05PM +0100, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 03 ian 22, 14:02:05, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > In the one that was running to start with, the command line shown to > > me in system monitor includes "daemonize=no". I would guess that to > > be the problem, but why

Re: 8 -> 9 update changing things

2022-01-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 03 ian 22, 14:02:05, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote: > > Running pulseaudio --start fixed that problem, but now I show two instances > of it runninng. > > In the one that was running to start with, the command line shown to > me in system monitor includes "daemonize=no". I would guess tha

Re: Need Support on Debian10 Kernel Upgrade

2022-01-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 02 ian 22, 20:59:45, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 18 Dec 2021 at 12:36:49 (+0100), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Jo, 16 dec 21, 09:53:33, David Wright wrote: > > > > > > Anyone think it ironic that a multinational IT company with a > > > market capitalisation of $50 billion as of September 2

Re: How to secure access to SD cards a la USBGuard?

2022-01-11 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 02 ian 22, 20:52:25, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 10 Dec 2021 at 17:20:52 (+0100), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Lu, 06 dec 21, 10:18:49, David Wright wrote: > > > On Sun 05 Dec 2021 at 13:33:41 (+0100), Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > On Vi, 12 nov 21, 12:27:59, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > >

Re: How do I change disk ?

2022-01-11 Thread Hans
Am Dienstag, 11. Januar 2022, 04:38:36 CET schrieb Pierre Couderc: My way: - Boot with a live cd with clonezilla on it (i.e. clonezilla live) - clone the complete harddrive to the new one. Pay attentention, that the new one must be equal or bigger than the source. - Use another live cd with gp