Re: LTS versions - confusion

2021-09-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 14 sep 21, 23:18:48, Brian wrote: > On Tue 14 Sep 2021 at 16:33:55 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > > > > Hmmm... ok, so, I could run sid 'forever', as long as I keep it updated > > regularly? > > Why not? Update when you want to. How does this differ from Gentoo's > rolling release aspect? Go fo

Re: Package priority puzzlement

2021-09-14 Thread craig duncan
I hope the pointer to the matching priorities on the two different repositories was a helpful hint. -- The Wanderer Yes... i suppose that explains the behavior.  Except this seems to mean that setting APT::Default-Release "stable" in apt.conf has no effect. Before my previous installation

Re: LTS versions - confusion

2021-09-14 Thread tomas
On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 04:33:55PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 9/13/2021 11:02 AM, Brian wrote > > On Mon 13 Sep 2021 at 10:18:54 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> So, I'm considering Debian for a new homebrew MX gateway I want to set > >> up, but it depends... > >> > >> I'm a form

grub-install Cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdXY

2021-09-14 Thread Musbur
Hello, I somehow managed to screw up my /boot partition. Now I'm trying to re-install it by booting from a Debian installer stick. After network configuration, I do this: 1) Mount the root partition at / 2) # for s in dev sys proc; do mount --bind /$s /mnt/$s; done 3) # mount --bind /etc/reso

Re: Package priority puzzlement

2021-09-14 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-09-14 at 18:56, craig duncan wrote: > I just installed Bullseye after -- as a long-time Debian user -- having > had my hard drive corrupted by USB devices. > I used to run testing, so i thought i would get there, but first i > wanted to install the apps i wanted, get things working, and

Re: LTS versions - confusion

2021-09-14 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-09-14 at 16:33, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 9/13/2021 11:02 AM, Brian wrote > >> On Mon 13 Sep 2021 at 10:18:54 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> So, I'm considering Debian for a new homebrew MX gateway I want >>> to set up, but it depends... >>> >>> I'm a former Gentoo user, and

Package priority puzzlement

2021-09-14 Thread craig duncan
I just installed Bullseye after -- as a long-time Debian user -- having had my hard drive corrupted by USB devices. I used to run testing, so i thought i would get there, but first i wanted to install the apps i wanted, get things working, and then migrate to testing. During the install, i also

Re: copy directory tree, mapping to new owners

2021-09-14 Thread Richard Hector
On 14/09/21 6:50 pm, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 12:17:05PM +1200, Richard Hector wrote: On 13/09/21 7:04 pm, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 11:45:02AM +1200, Richard Hector wrote: >>On 12/09/21 6:52 pm, john doe wrote: > >[...] > >>>If you are doing this in

Re: LTS versions - confusion

2021-09-14 Thread Brian
On Tue 14 Sep 2021 at 16:33:55 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 9/13/2021 11:02 AM, Brian wrote > > On Mon 13 Sep 2021 at 10:18:54 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> So, I'm considering Debian for a new homebrew MX gateway I want to set > >> up, but it depends... > >> > >> I'm a former

Re: LTS versions - confusion

2021-09-14 Thread deloptes
Greg Wooledge wrote: >> Anyone do this for important (maybe not 'mission critical') servers? > > I'm sure someone does, but it's not *wise*. yes indeed. server + sid is contradicting somehow unless you do development of server software -- FCD6 3719 0FFB F1BF 38EA 4727 5348 5F1F DCFE BCB0

Re: LTS versions - confusion

2021-09-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 04:33:55PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > Hmmm... ok, so, I could run sid 'forever', as long as I keep it updated > regularly? > > Anyone do this for important (maybe not 'mission critical') servers? I'm sure someone does, but it's not *wise*.

Re: LTS versions - confusion

2021-09-14 Thread Tanstaafl
On 9/13/2021 11:02 AM, Brian wrote > On Mon 13 Sep 2021 at 10:18:54 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> So, I'm considering Debian for a new homebrew MX gateway I want to set >> up, but it depends... >> >> I'm a former Gentoo user, and really appreciated the rolling release >> aspect, since i

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread Brian
On Tue 14 Sep 2021 at 16:50:15 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 14 sep 21, 12:27:34, Joe wrote: > > > > I will soon be installing unstable starting from a console-only > > bullseye, upgrading at that point and only then loading what I want, > > including GUI and Xfce. > > The mini.iso can b

Re: was: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 14 September 2021 13:11:08 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:49:02AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 14 September 2021 10:08:34 Brian wrote: > > > On Tue 14 Sep 2021 at 09:27:25 +, Sriram wrote: > > > > [...] Can you suggest some links for downloading t

Re: mdadm RAID and the Bullseye installer

2021-09-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 14 September 2021 12:55:41 Dan Ritter wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > This is interesting and I will likely do it when I install the > > debian-11.1-net-install I just burnt. > > > > But, I have installed 4, 1 terabyte samsung SSD's on a separate > > non-raid controller card which I in

Re: was: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:49:02AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 14 September 2021 10:08:34 Brian wrote: > > > On Tue 14 Sep 2021 at 09:27:25 +, Sriram wrote: > > > [...] Can you suggest some links for downloading the bullseye along > > > with xfce which comes to less than 1 GB or pr

mdadm RAID and the Bullseye installer

2021-09-14 Thread Dan Ritter
Gene Heskett wrote: > This is interesting and I will likely do it when I install the > debian-11.1-net-install I just burnt. > > But, I have installed 4, 1 terabyte samsung SSD's on a separate non-raid > controller card which I intend to use as a software raid-6 or 10 after > moving the curren

Re: LTS versions - confusion

2021-09-14 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, 14 sept. 2021, 16:35 de amaca...@einval.com: > Debian 11 - Bullseye - released on 14th July 2021 will have [at least] five > years > support as stable/oldstable. > > Three years between releases > ~ two years ;) > plus a year after the next release plus usually > two years LTS support after

Re: was: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 14 September 2021 10:08:34 Brian wrote: > On Tue 14 Sep 2021 at 09:27:25 +, Sriram wrote: > > [...] Can you suggest some links for downloading the bullseye along > > with xfce which comes to less than 1 GB or preferably somewhere > > around 500-800 MB, or suggest ways to install the

Re: LTS versions - confusion

2021-09-14 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 02:33:23AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 13 sep 21, 10:18:54, Tanstaafl wrote: > > > > I'm a former Gentoo user, and really appreciated the rolling release > > aspect, since it meant no huge jumps between LTS releases with other > > distros. > Debian 11 - Bullseye

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread David Wright
On Tue 14 Sep 2021 at 09:27:25 (+), Sriram wrote: > Sorry it was not a minimal buster iso with xfce but i got this file > debian-10.4.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso which is around 640 MB > > I was able to install and get the system up and running last year , later i > updated to Bullseye but going f

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread Brian
On Tue 14 Sep 2021 at 09:27:25 +, Sriram wrote: > [...] Can you suggest some links for downloading the bullseye along > with xfce which comes to less than 1 GB or preferably somewhere around > 500-800 MB, or suggest ways to install the xfce offline  , there is no > deb file for such GUI's. An

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 14 sep 21, 12:27:34, Joe wrote: > > I will soon be installing unstable starting from a console-only > bullseye, upgrading at that point and only then loading what I want, > including GUI and Xfce. The mini.iso can be used to install unstable directly. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.

Re: copy directory tree, mapping to new owners

2021-09-14 Thread David Wright
On Tue 14 Sep 2021 at 08:50:34 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 12:17:05PM +1200, Richard Hector wrote: > > On 13/09/21 7:04 pm, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > >On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 11:45:02AM +1200, Richard Hector wrote: > > >>On 12/09/21 6:52 pm, john doe wrote: > > > >

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 01:56:23PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > If a DVD image is too big to download in and of itself, there are > > tools like jigdo which will allow you to build the media images from > > individual packages > > Jigdo does not support the

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > If a DVD image is too big to download in and of itself, there are > tools like jigdo which will allow you to build the media images from > individual packages Jigdo does not support the composition of new images. The .template file inflates to the size of the ISO im

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 05:50:53AM +, Sriram wrote: > Hi Team > Please include support for xfce in the minimal bullseye netinst iso file. > The existing file dose not include xfce and it is a pain to use the xfce > without GUI > > Earlier editions like buster included xfce in the minimal inst

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread Joe
On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 05:50:53 + (UTC) Sriram wrote: > Hi Team > Please include support for xfce in the minimal bullseye netinst iso > file. The existing file dose not include xfce and it is a pain to use > the xfce without GUI > > Earlier editions like buster included xfce in the minimal inst

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Sriram wrote: > it was not a minimal buster iso with xfce but i got this file > debian-10.4.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso which is around 640 MB The CD sized images seem to have been discontinued. I would have expected to find some at least here: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/j

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread Sriram
Hi Thomas Thanks for your reply Sorry it was not a minimal buster iso with xfce but i got this file debian-10.4.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso which is around 640 MB I was able to install and get the system up and running last year , later i updated to Bullseye but going for a kernel update lost my OS fe

Re: support for xfce in bullseye minimal netinst iso

2021-09-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 14 sep 21, 05:50:53, Sriram wrote: > Hi Team > Please include support for xfce in the minimal bullseye netinst iso file. > The existing file dose not include xfce and it is a pain to use the xfce > without GUI > > Earlier editions like buster included xfce in the minimal install file. As