Re: Help me setup home-office hardware with free software

2021-01-21 Thread Steven Mainor
On Friday, January 22, 2021 12:06:11 AM EST Pankaj Jangid wrote: > I am setting up one (or may be two) home-office servers. I have 6 ATI > Radian RX580 graphics cards that are lying in cold storage. I used them > a couple of years back to experiment with various crypto-mining > technologies. > > I

Re: Too many levels of symbolic links

2021-01-21 Thread steve
Le 21-01-2021, à 09:45:18 +0200, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : On Jo, 21 ian 21, 08:34:34, steve wrote: I have rebooted with udev_log=debug in /etc/udev/udev.conf. I see Jan 21 08:15:28 box systemd-udevd[607]: sdc6: Failed to update device symlinks: Too many levels of symbolic links Jan 21 08:15:2

Re: Too many levels of symbolic links

2021-01-21 Thread steve
Hi, Le 21-01-2021, à 20:41:05 -0600, David Wright a écrit : On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 08:34:34 (+0100), steve wrote: I have rebooted with udev_log=debug in /etc/udev/udev.conf. I see Jan 21 08:15:28 box systemd-udevd[607]: sdc6: Failed to update device symlinks: Too many levels of symbolic links

Help me setup home-office hardware with free software

2021-01-21 Thread Pankaj Jangid
I am setting up one (or may be two) home-office servers. I have 6 ATI Radian RX580 graphics cards that are lying in cold storage. I used them a couple of years back to experiment with various crypto-mining technologies. I want these cards to be put to use for experimenting with multi-threading wor

Re: Too many levels of symbolic links

2021-01-21 Thread David Wright
On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 08:34:34 (+0100), steve wrote: > I have rebooted with udev_log=debug in /etc/udev/udev.conf. I see > > Jan 21 08:15:28 box systemd-udevd[607]: sdc6: Failed to update device > symlinks: Too many levels of symbolic links > Jan 21 08:15:28 box systemd-udevd[607]: sdc6: Preserve

Re: [OT] Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau

2021-01-21 Thread David Wright
On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 01:14:31 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: > David Wright composed on 2021-01-20 23:58 (UTC-0600): > > On Wed 20 Jan 2021 at 21:17:30 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote: > > >> When I want TV I use a TV and remote controller and an easy chair or sofa, > >> not a > >> workchair and desk an

Re: Debian jessie > buster IPv6 link scope change of behaviour

2021-01-21 Thread David Wright
On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 08:16:23 (+0100), Marc SCHAEFER wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 08:04:05AM +0100, Marc SCHAEFER wrote: > > fe80::1 is specifically a link-local scope, a bit like if you try to > > access a class variable without telling in what class it is. > > Reading RFC-4291 [1], 2.5.6 (l

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread David Wright
On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 11:08:56 (-0800), Dan Hitt wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:02 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > > Dan Hitt wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 3:33 AM Brian wrote: > > > > > > > >menuentry 'Debian 10' { > > > >linux /boot/vmlinuz > > > >initrd /boot/initrd.gz > > > >

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Brian
On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 23:22:32 +, Brian wrote: > menuentry 'Debian 10' { > linux (hdX,msdosY)/boot/vmlinuz > initrd (hdX,msdosY)/boot/initrd.gz > } > > or use a "search" line. The latter might br easiest for you. Put linux, initrd.gz and the ISO file in /boot on the Linux Min

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread David Christensen
On 2021-01-20 20:31, Dan Hitt wrote: I have a machine that currently has linux mint 16.04 on it. I would like to install debian 10 on it, but the installer really wants access to a cd drive, and one just isn't available. However, the linux mint 16.04 system does have grub2 on it. So it is po

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Brian
On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 13:06:25 -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 12:29 PM Brian wrote: > > > On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 09:34:56 -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 3:33 AM Brian wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed 20 Jan 2021 at 20:31:53 -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: > > > > > >

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Brian
On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 16:20:10 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Brian composed on 2021-01-21 11:33 (UTC): > > > David Wright's advice to use the hd-media kernel and initrd is your way > > forward. The simplest GRUB stanza possible is > > >menuentry 'Debian 10' { > >linux /boot/vmlinuz > >

Re: new harddrive degraded speed

2021-01-21 Thread basti
Am 21.01.21 um 22:01 schrieb David Christensen: > On 2021-01-20 15:21, brainf...@posteo.net wrote: >> i bought a new harddrive >> western digital red plus 6tb >> >> === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === >> Model Family: Western Digital Red >> Device Model: WDC WD60EFRX-68L0BN1 >> Serial N

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Felix Miata
Dan Hitt composed on 2021-01-21 13:06 (UTC-0800): > ...i only have access to > the bios with great difficulty. If i could get into the bios, i could > change the boot order, and possibly boot from usb. However, it is very > difficult to interrupt the boot process successfully (by pressing F2),

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Dan Hitt
On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 12:58 PM Erwan David wrote: > Le 21/01/2021 à 21:52, Erwan David a écrit : > > Le 21/01/2021 à 21:46, Brian a écrit : > >> On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 11:08:56 -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: > >> > >> [...] > >> > >>> Now, Brian said that "the installer's initrd does not contain a loop

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Felix Miata
Brian composed on 2021-01-21 11:33 (UTC): > David Wright's advice to use the hd-media kernel and initrd is your way > forward. The simplest GRUB stanza possible is >menuentry 'Debian 10' { >linux /boot/vmlinuz >initrd /boot/initrd.gz >} I'm having trouble thinking of how this cou

Re: new harddrive degraded speed

2021-01-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Is it an SMR drive?  Interface speed may not be too critical if it is. > > WD says it is a CMR drive, and that they are separating the Red > designations to make it clear to consumers which are SMR and > which are CMR because people don't like buying SMR by accident, > which surprises WD for som

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Dan Ritter
Dan Hitt wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 12:29 PM Brian wrote: > > > I have a machine that currently has linux mint 16.04 on it > > > > I assummed that that this was the only partition and that vmlinuz and > > initrd.gz would go in /boot. How many partitions do you have? > > > > Thanks Brian

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Dan Hitt
On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 12:29 PM Brian wrote: > On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 09:34:56 -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 3:33 AM Brian wrote: > > > > > On Wed 20 Jan 2021 at 20:31:53 -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > menuentry "debian-10-iso" { > > > >

Re: new harddrive degraded speed

2021-01-21 Thread David Christensen
On 2021-01-20 15:21, brainf...@posteo.net wrote: i bought a new harddrive western digital red plus 6tb === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Western Digital Red Device Model: WDC WD60EFRX-68L0BN1 Serial Number:    WD-WX62D60C9L6X LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 212e6b9ad Firmware

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Erwan David
Le 21/01/2021 à 21:52, Erwan David a écrit : > Le 21/01/2021 à 21:46, Brian a écrit : >> On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 11:08:56 -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>> Now, Brian said that "the installer's initrd does not contain a loop >>> module", so that would indicate that if i want to use >>> debian

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Erwan David
Le 21/01/2021 à 21:46, Brian a écrit : > On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 11:08:56 -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: > > [...] > >> Now, Brian said that "the installer's initrd does not contain a loop >> module", so that would indicate that if i want to use >> debian-10.7.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso, i'll need to get it on th

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Brian
On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 11:08:56 -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: [...] > Now, Brian said that "the installer's initrd does not contain a loop > module", so that would indicate that if i want to use > debian-10.7.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso, i'll need to get it on the disk > (presumably by just unpacking it somewh

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Brian
On Thu 21 Jan 2021 at 09:34:56 -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 3:33 AM Brian wrote: > > > On Wed 20 Jan 2021 at 20:31:53 -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > menuentry "debian-10-iso" { > > > set isofile="/USER/iso/debian-10.7.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso" > > >

Re: new harddrive degraded speed

2021-01-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 21 ian 21, 13:12:38, brainf...@posteo.net wrote: > > > On 2021-01-21 12:44 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Jo, 21 ian 21, 12:09:12, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Mark Allums wrote: > > > > Is it an SMR drive?  Interface speed may not be too critical if it is. > > > > > > WD says it is a CMR dr

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 20 ian 21, 20:31:53, Dan Hitt wrote: > I have a machine that currently has linux mint 16.04 on it. > > I would like to install debian 10 on it, but the installer really wants > access to a cd drive, and one just isn't available. Any kind of medium that can be used by your motherboard to bo

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Dan Ritter
Dan Hitt wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:02 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > > > also have to be a search line like David has (search --no-floppy ..) > > to > > > identify just where '/boot' is (???). > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_GRUB#Startup_on_systems_using_BIOS_firmware > > > >

Re: new harddrive degraded speed

2021-01-21 Thread brainfart
On 2021-01-21 12:44 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 21 ian 21, 12:09:12, Dan Ritter wrote: Mark Allums wrote: > Is it an SMR drive?  Interface speed may not be too critical if it is. WD says it is a CMR drive, and that they are separating the Red designations to make it clear to consumers w

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Dan Hitt
On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:02 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > Dan Hitt wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 3:33 AM Brian wrote: > > > > > > > >menuentry 'Debian 10' { > > >linux /boot/vmlinuz > > >initrd /boot/initrd.gz > > >} > > > > > > -- > > > Brian. > > > > > > > > Brian, thanks so mu

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 20 ian 21, 20:31:53, Dan Hitt wrote: > > Or perhaps there's some other way to approach the problem? For example, > i've already created a partition to hold the debian system i want to put on > the machine. Is there some way of hand-populating it? Yes, either debootstrap (used also by the

Re: Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau

2021-01-21 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-01-21 at 13:35, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 21 ian 21, 06:30:16, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2021-01-20 at 21:17, Felix Miata wrote: >>> Because most mainstream hardware of the day, and since, is >>> supported, none of the optionals are /needed/ (as long as a >>> fully-functional DRM/

Re: new harddrive degraded speed

2021-01-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 21 ian 21, 12:09:12, Dan Ritter wrote: > Mark Allums wrote: > > Is it an SMR drive?  Interface speed may not be too critical if it is. > > WD says it is a CMR drive, and that they are separating the Red > designations to make it clear to consumers which are SMR and > which are CMR because

Re: Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau

2021-01-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 21 ian 21, 06:30:16, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-01-20 at 21:17, Felix Miata wrote: > > > The Wanderer composed on 2021-01-20 19:44 (UTC-0500): > > > >> Felix Miata wrote: > > > >>> Sven Joachim composed on 2021-01-20 23:18 (UTC+0100): > > > the upstream Xorg server still uses a g

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Dan Ritter
Dan Hitt wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 3:33 AM Brian wrote: > > > > >menuentry 'Debian 10' { > >linux /boot/vmlinuz > >initrd /boot/initrd.gz > >} > > > > -- > > Brian. > > > > > Brian, thanks so much for your advice. Thank you also Felix, David, and > Bastien --- i need to s

Re: new harddrive degraded speed

2021-01-21 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 21.01.2021 05:36, brainf...@posteo.net wrote: i guess i'm asking what decides how a device is going to connect Both host controller and device controller are negotiating for a highest possible bandwidth. If a host controller supports speeds up to 3.0Gb only, then device controller will ope

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Dan Hitt
On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 3:33 AM Brian wrote: > On Wed 20 Jan 2021 at 20:31:53 -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: > > [...] > > > menuentry "debian-10-iso" { > > set isofile="/USER/iso/debian-10.7.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso" > > loopback loop (hd0,gptNN)$isofile > > linux (loop)/install

Re: new harddrive degraded speed

2021-01-21 Thread Dan Ritter
Mark Allums wrote: > Is it an SMR drive?  Interface speed may not be too critical if it is. WD says it is a CMR drive, and that they are separating the Red designations to make it clear to consumers which are SMR and which are CMR because people don't like buying SMR by accident, which surprises

Re: new harddrive degraded speed

2021-01-21 Thread Mark Allums
On 1/20/21 11:41 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: i bought a new harddrive western digital red plus 6tb === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Western Digital Red Device Model: WDC WD60EFRX-68L0BN1 Serial Number:WD-WX62D60C9L6X LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 212e6b9ad Firmware Versi

Re: Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau

2021-01-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
> https://www.etymonline.com/word/amuse states that this is the "to, at" > prefix from Latin in a sense of "causing to", not the "not, without" one > from Greek. Funnily [oops, I guess I meant "amusingly"] enough, the two end up meaning kind of the same: in that what happens is that attention is d

Re: installing debian 10 without a cd and without usb but could use ethernet

2021-01-21 Thread Brian
On Wed 20 Jan 2021 at 20:31:53 -0800, Dan Hitt wrote: [...] > menuentry "debian-10-iso" { > set isofile="/USER/iso/debian-10.7.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso" > loopback loop (hd0,gptNN)$isofile > linux (loop)/install.amd/vmlinuz boot=install.amd > iso-scan/filename=$isofile no

Re: Upstream Default (FOSS) DDX Driver for NVidia GPUs is not Nouveau

2021-01-21 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-01-20 at 21:17, Felix Miata wrote: > The Wanderer composed on 2021-01-20 19:44 (UTC-0500): > >> Felix Miata wrote: > >>> Sven Joachim composed on 2021-01-20 23:18 (UTC+0100): > the upstream Xorg server still uses a graphics card specific driver if available. > >>> That was ex