Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian ???buster????

2021-01-10 Thread William Torrez Corea
cat /etc/debian_version 10.7 cat /etc/apt/sources.list # # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.0.0 _Buster_ - Official amd64 NETINST 20190706-10:23]/ buster main #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.0.0 _Buster_ - Official amd64 NETINST 20190706-10:23]/ buster main deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ bu

Re: MacOS Big Sur balenaEtcher Bug

2021-01-10 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 19:02:41 -0500 Stephen Muscarella wrote: > I downloaded the debian-10.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso image from the home > page on Big Sur. ... > Any thoughts or ideas? I suspect corruption during downloading. Did you check the checksums? https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify For t

Re: Radeon opengl driver problem - buster

2021-01-10 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 11/1/21 8:36 am, Jeremy Ardley wrote: On 10/1/21 12:52 pm, Jeremy Ardley wrote: inxi -Fxz (...) Graphics:   Device-1: AMD Caicos PRO [Radeon HD 7450] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: radeon   v: kernel bus ID: 09:00.0   Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa

Re: Monitor resolution wrong

2021-01-10 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-01-10 at 19:32, Felix Miata wrote: > Leandro neto composed on 2021-01-10 23:42 (UTC): > >> I am trying to report this since October 2019 > > Trying to report exactly what (in detail)? > >> all my emails are blocked fell free to remove access my machine and >> see by yourself > > See wh

Re: Radeon opengl driver problem - buster

2021-01-10 Thread Jeremy Ardley
On 10/1/21 12:52 pm, Jeremy Ardley wrote: inxi -Fxz (...) Graphics:   Device-1: AMD Caicos PRO [Radeon HD 7450] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: radeon   v: kernel bus ID: 09:00.0   Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa   resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz   OpenGL: rend

Re: Monitor resolution wrong

2021-01-10 Thread Felix Miata
Leandro neto composed on 2021-01-10 23:42 (UTC): > I am trying to report this since October 2019 Trying to report exactly what (in detail)? > all my emails are blocked fell free to remove access my machine and see by > yourself See what by self? Remove what access to your machine? -- Evoluti

Re: Monitor resolution wrong

2021-01-10 Thread Felix Miata
Alexander V. Makartsev composed on 2021-01-11 04:35 (UTC+0500): > Otherwise it would be recommended to use by nouveau project developers. [2] Producers of products aren't normally given to recommending use of competing products. > [2] > https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/InstallNouveau.html#confi

MacOS Big Sur balenaEtcher Bug

2021-01-10 Thread Stephen Muscarella
Hello, I downloaded the debian-10.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso image from the home page on Big Sur. I tried to flash it with balenaEtcher and am running into problems. When the flash is complete in balenaEtcher, it says files cannot be read by the system and when I look at the size of the USB bootab

Re: Monitor resolution wrong

2021-01-10 Thread Leandro neto
I am trying to report this since October 2019   all my emails are blocked fell free to remove access my machine and see by yourself    leandro Enviado via UOL Mail Assunto: Re: Monitor resolution wrong De: avbe...@gmail.com Enviado em: 10 de janeiro d

Re: Monitor resolution wrong

2021-01-10 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 10.01.2021 22:18, Felix Miata wrote: I wasn't aware of that limitation. Here's an older version of essentially the same thing: I've skimmed through that thread and pretty much agree with a summary

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-10 Thread Dan Ritter
Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Sat, Jan 9, 2021, 6:05 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > > > John Hasler wrote: > > > It's also important to understand that NNTP is a peer to peer protocol. > > > Any group of NNTP servers configured to connect to each other form a > > > network. Anyone can run an NNTP serve

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-10 Thread grumpy
On Sun, 10 Jan 2021, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 9:39 AM mm wrote: totally with you on this. but then do smth about the politically motivated techincal discussion starting with the subject line I second that motion. all in favor let go of your momma's teat and raise y

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-10 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021, 6:05 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > John Hasler wrote: > > It's also important to understand that NNTP is a peer to peer protocol. > > Any group of NNTP servers configured to connect to each other form a > > network. Anyone can run an NNTP server. While it once required a VAX > > w

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-10 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sun, Jan 10, 2021, 9:39 AM mm wrote: > totally with you on this. > > but then do smth about the politically motivated techincal discussion > starting with the subject line > I second that motion. On 1/10/21 9:39 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > > This is not the place for a political discussion. Pl

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Felix Miata
Andrei POPESCU composed on 2021-01-10 18:31 (UTC+0200): > Peter Ehlert wrote: >> John Hasler wrote: >>> ...Upgrading works well and is >>> supported and recommended by Debian. >> sometimes, but not always. I prefer Reinstall, it's painless > The install? Sure. > Migrating all your configurati

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Joe
On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 21:54:41 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 10 ian 21, 17:05:09, Joe wrote: > > On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 18:31:12 +0200 > > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > On Du, 10 ian 21, 04:44:03, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > > > > > > > On 1/9/21 5:04 PM, John Hasler wrote: > > > > > C

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Joe
On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 21:39:29 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 10 ian 21, 16:58:57, Joe wrote: > > > > I thought of the --get-selections route, but decided against it. > > There may be a few specific packages responsible for the problems. > > Certainly an exact clone is exactly what I don't w

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Weaver
On 11-01-2021 02:28, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 10 ian 21, 05:27:26, Weaver wrote: >> >> Unless you're running a server, it's a good idea to be running SID, and >> then you don't have to worry about it anyway. > > Been there, done that. One can learn a lot, especially from the troubles > (whi

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 10 ian 21, 17:05:09, Joe wrote: > On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 18:31:12 +0200 > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Du, 10 ian 21, 04:44:03, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > > > > > On 1/9/21 5:04 PM, John Hasler wrote: > > > > Carl Fink writes: > > > > > I'm repeating the recommendation I've seen on this v

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 10 ian 21, 16:58:57, Joe wrote: > > I thought of the --get-selections route, but decided against it. There > may be a few specific packages responsible for the problems. Certainly > an exact clone is exactly what I don't want. So I'm spending a lot of > time with apt, taking the opportunity

Re: Network and KDE lost after testing upgrade

2021-01-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
[This is more appropriate for debian-user, adding to Cc:] On Du, 10 ian 21, 20:08:31, Xavier wrote: > > Thanks, network-manager is still there but I have to launch it manually, And does it work correctly when starting it manually? > systemd-network.service is launched but no link are launched.

[solved] Re: Ipv6, but no Ipv4 after reboot

2021-01-10 Thread Dominique Dumont
Looks like this problem is gone with latest kernel (5.10). Thanks for your help. Dod

Re: Monitor resolution wrong

2021-01-10 Thread Felix Miata
Alexander V. Makartsev composed on 2021-01-10 19:01 (UTC+0500): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Notice the absence of "nouveau". You may better understand this choice among >> three >> rather than two by reading here: >>

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Joe
On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 18:31:12 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 10 ian 21, 04:44:03, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > > > On 1/9/21 5:04 PM, John Hasler wrote: > > > Carl Fink writes: > > > > I'm repeating the recommendation I've seen on this very list for > > > > decades. > > > It is an incorrec

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Joe
On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 13:46:53 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 05:27:26AM -0800, Weaver wrote: > > On 10-01-2021 22:44, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > > On 1/9/21 5:04 PM, John Hasler wrote: > > >> Carl Fink writes: > > >>> I'm repeating the recommendation I've seen on thi

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 10 ian 21, 04:44:03, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > On 1/9/21 5:04 PM, John Hasler wrote: > > Carl Fink writes: > > > I'm repeating the recommendation I've seen on this very list for > > > decades. > > It is an incorrect recommendation. Upgrading works well and is > > supported and recommended by

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 10 ian 21, 05:27:26, Weaver wrote: > > Unless you're running a server, it's a good idea to be running SID, and > then you don't have to worry about it anyway. Been there, done that. One can learn a lot, especially from the troubles (which I got into literally days after the first time I u

Re: Monitor resolution wrong

2021-01-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 10 ian 21, 14:34:42, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > > If the reason to use "nouveau" is to "eradicate tainting software", > then what about myriads of other proprietary blobs in your system? One step at a time ;) Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signa

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-10 Thread mm
totally with you on this. but then do smth about the politically motivated techincal discussion starting with the subject line On 1/10/21 9:39 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > This is not the place for a political discussion. Please confine your > comments to debian technical questions. >

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-10 Thread mm
bust it dude On 1/9/21 11:33 PM, gru...@mailfence.com wrote: > On Sat, 9 Jan 2021, mm wrote: > >> >> On 1/9/21 6:27 PM, Marek Mosiewicz wrote: >>> W?dniu sob, 09.01.2021 o?godzinie 15?33?+0100, u?ytkownik mm napisa?: Cheers, Please get your right wing propaganda elsewhere. >

Re: Monitor resolution wrong

2021-01-10 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 10.01.2021 15:49, Felix Miata wrote: Alexander V. Makartsev composed on 2021-01-10 14:34 (UTC+0500): Felix Miata wrote: ... Personally, I can't imagine any real reason to use "nouveau", because it is trapped in development hell for years now ... Anyway, the choice to use an opensource "n

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 05:27:26AM -0800, Weaver wrote: > On 10-01-2021 22:44, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > On 1/9/21 5:04 PM, John Hasler wrote: > >> Carl Fink writes: > >>> I'm repeating the recommendation I've seen on this very list for > >>> decades. > >> It is an incorrect recommendation. Upgradin

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Weaver
On 10-01-2021 22:44, Peter Ehlert wrote: > On 1/9/21 5:04 PM, John Hasler wrote: >> Carl Fink writes: >>> I'm repeating the recommendation I've seen on this very list for >>> decades. >> It is an incorrect recommendation. Upgrading works well and is >> supported and recommended by Debian. > > som

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 1/9/21 5:04 PM, John Hasler wrote: Carl Fink writes: I'm repeating the recommendation I've seen on this very list for decades. It is an incorrect recommendation. Upgrading works well and is supported and recommended by Debian. sometimes, but not always. I prefer Reinstall, it's painless

Re: Monitor resolution wrong

2021-01-10 Thread Felix Miata
Alexander V. Makartsev composed on 2021-01-10 14:34 (UTC+0500): > Felix Miata wrote: ... > Personally, I can't imagine any real reason to use "nouveau", because it > is trapped in development hell for years now ... > Anyway, the choice to use an opensource "nouveau" or proprietary > "nvidia" dri

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 09 ian 21, 19:58:06, Carl Fink wrote: > On Sat, 2021-01-09 at 23:39 +0100, deloptes wrote: > > Carl Fink wrote: > > > > > The recommendation is to reinstall instead. It's easier and doesn't > > > take much more time. > > > > Please do not share your personal thoughts as recommendations. I

Re: How i do upgrade my operating system to Debian “buster”?

2021-01-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 09 ian 21, 15:25:17, William Torrez Corea wrote: > My version actually is Debian 4.19.146-1 (2020-09-17) x86_64 GNU/Linux. > Please show the output of 'apt policy'. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Monitor resolution wrong

2021-01-10 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 10.01.2021 06:27, Felix Miata wrote: Alexander V. Makartsev composed on 2021-01-10 05:22 (UTC+0500): ...so you need to install "nvidia-legacy-390xx-driver"... Most likely that's false. As you should be able to see above, old NVidia cards don't require tainting software to run X on modern wi

Re: How automatic are backport package updates?

2021-01-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
[removing -backports from Cc:] On Sb, 09 ian 21, 14:48:43, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > On Sat, 9 Jan 2021, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > Debian unstable can be quite usable, provided that you are willing to > > > > 1. Invest the time to familiarise yourself with APT and friends (dpkg, > > aptit

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-10 Thread Rick Thomas
This is not the place for a political discussion. Please confine your comments to debian technical questions.

Re: po...@lists.debian.org

2021-01-10 Thread Will Mengarini
* mm [21-01/09=Sa 23:01 +0100]: >>> still strongly advice to put your perspective to revision >>> and retrospective in a truthful and honest manner. * gru...@mailfence.com [21-01/09=Sa 16:33 -0600]: >> and can i do that in stretch or do i need buster * Ben Caradoc-Davies [21-01/10=Su 13:15 +13