Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

On Jo, 07 ian 21, 23:35:23, Ottavio Caruso wrote: > > Thanks. So, this is the list of all linux-image-amd64: > https://snapshot.debian.org/binary/linux-image-amd64/ You might want to read the description for 'linux-image-amd64' first ;) > Which one should I install? Which was the first kernel t

Re: question about intel gpu hang

Muhamad Moghadam composed on 2021-01-07 16:52 (UTC-0500): > Hi Everybody,I have a pc with intel gpu and run it on fedora, but intel gpu > will be hang with fedora kernel ( 5.7 or more ). If I install debian, > will my problem be solved? Exactly which Intel CPU/IGP? You could be experiencing this

Re: question about intel gpu hang

On 2021-01-07 13:52, Muhamad Moghadam wrote: Hi Everybody,I have a pc with intel gpu and run it on fedora, but intel gpu will be hang with fedora kernel ( 5.7 or more ). If I install debian, will my problem be solved? Perhaps. It is next to impossible to determine whether or not operating sys

Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

Ottavio Caruso wrote: > Thanks. So, this is the list of all linux-image-amd64: > https://snapshot.debian.org/binary/linux-image-amd64/ > > Which one should I install? Which was the first kernel that came with > Stretch? Otavio, come on, does google not work on your PC? https://wiki.debian.org/De

Re: neomutt on Bullseye not retaining multipart/alternative MIME on forward

My apologies as I neglected to say that I set the variable to 'yes' and restarted neomutt and forwarded the latest message and the HTML attachment was dropped as before with this version. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears thi

Re: neomutt on Bullseye not retaining multipart/alternative MIME on forward

Well, that looked promising, David. Thanks for catching that. It appears that the count_alternatives variable is intended for counting the attachments a message has and showing that number in the index view. Its documentation leads to: https://neomutt.org/guide/mimesupport.html#attachments whic

question about intel gpu hang

Hi Everybody,I have a pc with intel gpu and run it on fedora, but intel gpu will be hang with fedora kernel ( 5.7 or more ). If I install debian, will my problem be solved? have you had problems on debian with intel gpu? -- Persian Trucking Mag

Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

On Thu 07 Jan 2021 at 13:50:31 (-0500), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, January 07, 2021 12:16:45 PM David Wright wrote: > > > I'm unconvinced with the Noob explanation. My search engine corrects > > wyland→wayland itself, whether I prefix the search with teamviewer, > > gnome, or x11. Se

Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

On Thu 07 Jan 2021 at 12:59:22 (-0500), Kenneth Parker wrote: > On Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 12:24 PM deloptes wrote: > > David Wright wrote: > > > > > I'm unconvinced with the Noob explanation. My search engine corrects > > > wyland→wayland itself, whether I prefix the search with teamviewer, > > > gnome

Re: Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

>Excuse me, but I am drawing a Blank, when searching for information on a >Package called "Wyland". Are you, by any chance referring to Wayland, the >alternative to Xorg? Congratulations. Not even I am that obsessed with pointing out the mistakes of others. -nik

Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

On Thursday, January 07, 2021 12:16:45 PM David Wright wrote: > I'm unconvinced with the Noob explanation. My search engine corrects > wyland→wayland itself, whether I prefix the search with teamviewer, > gnome, or x11. Searching for 'buster wyland' suggests 'buster wiand', > but the first hit is

Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

On Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 12:24 PM deloptes wrote: > David Wright wrote: > > > I'm unconvinced with the Noob explanation. My search engine corrects > > wyland→wayland itself, whether I prefix the search with teamviewer, > > gnome, or x11. Searching for 'buster wyland' suggests 'buster wiand', > > but

Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

David Wright wrote: > I'm unconvinced with the Noob explanation. My search engine corrects > wyland→wayland itself, whether I prefix the search with teamviewer, > gnome, or x11. Searching for 'buster wyland' suggests 'buster wiand', > but the first hit is still 'Wayland - Debian Wiki', and there a

Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

On Thu 07 Jan 2021 at 11:40:37 (-0500), Kenneth Parker wrote: > On Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 11:20 AM deloptes wrote: > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > Duh. Don't be a prick over typos. > > > > Sorry guys, I don't know the beast and don't use it. I just watched a > > presentation about it once. > > I di

Re: neomutt on Bullseye not retaining multipart/alternative MIME on forward

On Wed 06 Jan 2021 at 20:41:50 (-0600), Nate Bargmann wrote: > Last month I upgraded this desktop from Buster to Bullseye. It was a > fresh installation since something went wrong on that particular day > with 'apt dist-upgrade'. Oh well. > > Anyway, with the current neoumtt package whenever I f

Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

On Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 11:20 AM deloptes wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > Duh. Don't be a prick over typos. > > Sorry guys, I don't know the beast and don't use it. I just watched a > presentation about it once. > I did not cross check how it is exactly spelled. So it was more of an > ignorance

Re: Teamviewer and Wayland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

Greg Wooledge wrote: > Duh.  Don't be a prick over typos. Sorry guys, I don't know the beast and don't use it. I just watched a presentation about it once. I did not cross check how it is exactly spelled. So it was more of an ignorance than a typo. And thank you for the hints

Re: Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

On Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 10:18 AM Dominik George wrote: > >Excuse me, but I am drawing a Blank, when searching for information on a > >Package called "Wyland". Are you, by any chance referring to Wayland, > the > >alternative to Xorg? > > Congratulations. > > Not even I am that obsessed with pointi

Re: Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

On Thu, Jan 07, 2021 at 10:15:11AM -0500, Kenneth Parker wrote: > Excuse me, but I am drawing a Blank, when searching for information on a > Package called "Wyland". Are you, by any chance referring to Wayland, the > alternative to Xorg? Duh. Don't be a prick over typos.

Re: Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

Hi, >Thank you - how do I let Gnome run in X11 session? I am afraid the user >would stick to Gnome. > Set UseWayland=false in /etc/gdm3/*.conf -nik

Re: Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

On Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 8:30 AM deloptes wrote: > Hi, > > after upgrading one machine from Stretch to Buster Teamviewer told me that > it does not support remote control with Wyland. > Excuse me, but I am drawing a Blank, when searching for information on a Package called "Wyland". Are you, by an

Re: Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

On 1/7/21 3:41 PM, deloptes wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> Either run GNOME in an X11 session, or run someting other than GNOME. > > Thank you - how do I let Gnome run in X11 session? I am afraid the user > would stick to Gnome. Hey, I'm not a Gnome user but I think that you have to execut

Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

On Thu, Jan 07, 2021 at 09:44:49AM +0100, deloptes wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > Some of us do need the webcam for video calls / conferences ;) > > (family, friends or work) > > > > Andrei, forgive me the the joke, but I doubt you are a model or movie star, > I would insist looking at :D

Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

On Jo, 07 ian 21, 14:22:30, deloptes wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > Typically a Debian release should run with the kernel from the previous > > release (makes dist-upgrade easier), specific exceptions are mentioned > > in the Release Notes. > > > > If possible you should stick with kernels

Re: Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

Greg Wooledge wrote: > Either run GNOME in an X11 session, or run someting other than GNOME. Thank you - how do I let Gnome run in X11 session? I am afraid the user would stick to Gnome.

Re: Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

On Thu, Jan 07, 2021 at 02:25:03PM +0100, deloptes wrote: > after upgrading one machine from Stretch to Buster Teamviewer told me that > it does not support remote control with Wyland. Either run GNOME in an X11 session, or run someting other than GNOME.

Teamviewer and Wyland on Debian Buster Gnome desktop

Hi, after upgrading one machine from Stretch to Buster Teamviewer told me that it does not support remote control with Wyland. What should I use to get remote control (occasionally) in this configuration? thank in advance

Re: list package version if installed (scriptable)

Hi Jim, On Thu, Jan 07, 2021 at 08:12:52AM -0500, Jim Popovitch wrote: > What is a script'able way to list a pkg version (or nothing if it is not > installed)? $ dpkg-query --showformat '${Version}\t${Status}\n' --show coreutils 8.23-4 install ok installed $ dpkg-query --showformat '${Version}\

Re: list package version if installed (scriptable)

On Thu, Jan 07, 2021 at 08:12:52AM -0500, Jim Popovitch wrote: > What is a script'able way to list a pkg version (or nothing if it is not > installed)? > > +1 for POSIX compatibility. unicorn:~$ dpkg-query --show --showformat '${Version}\n' bash 5.0-4 unicorn:~$ dpkg-query --show --showformat '${

Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Typically a Debian release should run with the kernel from the previous > release (makes dist-upgrade easier), specific exceptions are mentioned > in the Release Notes. > > If possible you should stick with kernels from the LTS project (as far > as I know stretch is still

list package version if installed (scriptable)

Hello! What is a script'able way to list a pkg version (or nothing if it is not installed)? +1 for POSIX compatibility. tia, -Jim P.

Re: AMD Radeon 6490M

> Andrei POPESCU composed on 2021-01-04 21:45 (UTC+0200): >> An initramfs rebuild is still needed, maybe that's the reason. On 1/4/21 9:06 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > This is why I suggested to test first via radeon.modeset=0. Blacklist means > don't > load the radeon kernel module, which is what rad

Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 09:37:42 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 07 ian 21, 02:06:33, deloptes wrote: > > > > I'm just wondering why one would want to have a spy cam on his notebook > > working. In the company everybody glue something on the webcam or painted > > it with permanent black. > > At

Re: lua-ldoc restricts lua versions and doesn't work with lua5.3

Hi Thomas, Thanks for a prompt reply and for the details. Given that LDoc itself in its original sources doesn't specify any restrictions on the Lua version, wouldn't it make more sense to: - Remove the Lua-Versions line - Make lua-ldoc package depend just on lua-any (it will bring some lua with i

Re: Is this possible with DAC or ACL?

Thanks all for your detailed answers! Sometimes I miss simple things :-)

Re: lua-ldoc restricts lua versions and doesn't work with lua5.3

Hi, Eugene Pakhomov wrote: > wouldn't it make more sense to: > - Remove the Lua-Versions line > - Make lua-ldoc package depend just on lua-any (it will bring some lua with > it by itself) Whatever works best for you locally. :)) But if you ever meet a Debian Developer who is willing to touch the

Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

On Jo, 07 ian 21, 09:37:10, Ottavio Caruso wrote: > On 07/01/2021 01:06, deloptes wrote: > > Ottavio Caruso wrote: > > > > > In this case, what's the oldest kernel I can install on Stretch? > > you mean the most recent? > > No, I mean the opposite. The oldest that can be installed on Stretch Beca

Re: lua-ldoc restricts lua versions and doesn't work with lua5.3

Hi, Eugene Pakhomov wrote: > Why is there a restriction in the first place? Interesting question. In https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/l/lua-ldoc/control-1.4.6-1 i see Depends: lua-any, ... lua5.1 | lua5.2 | lua5.3, > Would just removing the line with "Lua-Vers

lua-ldoc restricts lua versions and doesn't work with lua5.3

Hello, I'm using Ubuntu 20.04 but AFAIK lua-ldoc comes from Debian. As described in the title, it doesn't work with lua5.3. The Debian patch 0001-Use-lua-any-to-choose-the-right-interpreter-version.patch for lua-doc explicitly allows only 5.2 and 5.1. Why is there a restriction in the first place

Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

Ottavio Caruso wrote: > No, I mean the opposite. The oldest that can be installed on Stretch > Because I didn't have a problem with older kernels. I must have > uninstalled some of the oldest kernel I had. At the moment I have: > from what I read you need a 3.x kernel to be sure it works. Last

Re: Debian 9, dhclient does not update gateway

Tapio Lehtonen writes: > This is tail from /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.leases > lease { > interface "eth0"; > fixed-address 192.168.250.41; > option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; > option routers 192.168.250.6; > option dhcp-lease-time 3600; > option dhcp-message-type 5; > option domain-nam

Re: Intermittent problem with integrated webcam / Thinkpad E130/ Stretch

Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Some of us do need the webcam for video calls / conferences ;) > (family, friends or work) > Andrei, forgive me the the joke, but I doubt you are a model or movie star, I would insist looking at :D - same for me :D. I understand this but do not understand completely why w