Re: [Sid] ahci: disk order

Stefan Monnier writes: >> HDD=/dev/sdb, SSD=/dev/sda. Is there any way to fix the disk order? I would > > The usual recommendation is to change the way you work such that you > don't depend on those names. +1 > > Personally, I use LVM so all my "partitions" (called "logical volumes") > have a na

Re: node.js updates processor microcode?

On 2020-07-25 03:17, Carl Fink wrote: I just installed npm on a Stable (Buster) system with apt. It brought in dozens of other packages. Then I worked on other stuff while it downloaded and installed. When I came back, a curses prompt was informing me that it had already updated my kernel micro

Re: Do other owners of WD Gold disks hear a periodic plonk ?

On 2020-07-24 14:35, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Hello. :-) David Christensen wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Click_of_death But that's a different technology (and 20 years ago). I have a few Zip drives on the shelf, but only rarely used them back when. My recent "Click of death"

node.js updates processor microcode?

I just installed npm on a Stable (Buster) system with apt. It brought in dozens of other packages. Then I worked on other stuff while it downloaded and installed. When I came back, a curses prompt was informing me that it had already updated my kernel microcode. Is that something node.js is really

Re: Upgrading python3.8 from 3.8.3-1 to 3.8.4~rc1-1 breaks xpra

Thanks Jörg snapshot.debian.org was a great help! Though I had trouble with apt to deal with the downgrade with depedencies, aptitude's interactive UI helped a lot. As for the xpra issue, it seemed to be something about xpra itself. I just found xpra was somehow not in the repo anymore. https:

Re: Do other owners of WD Gold disks hear a periodic plonk ?

On Fri, 2020-07-24 at 12:06 -0700, David Christensen wrote: > On 2020-07-24 11:49, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > i got my new computer with a 4 GB WD Gold (WDC WD4003FRYZ-01F0DB0) > > and > > observe a strange behavior with a provisory Debian 10 LXDE > > installation. > > > > If the drive

Re: Do other owners of WD Gold disks hear a periodic plonk ?

rhkra...@gmail.com wrote on 7/24/20 4:28 PM: > On Friday, July 24, 2020 05:35:34 PM Thomas Schmitt wrote: >> David Christensen wrote: >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Click_of_death >> >> But that's a different technology (and 20 years ago). > > You might not have read the entire article. > Hav

Re: Do other owners of WD Gold disks hear a periodic plonk ?

On 25/7/20 4:49 am, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, i got my new computer with a 4 GB WD Gold (WDC WD4003FRYZ-01F0DB0) and observe a strange behavior with a provisory Debian 10 LXDE installation. If the drive has power then i makes a plonking noise every 3 to 5 seconds. The plonk is louder when Deb

Re: Do other owners of WD Gold disks hear a periodic plonk ?

On Friday, July 24, 2020 05:35:34 PM Thomas Schmitt wrote: > David Christensen wrote: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Click_of_death > > But that's a different technology (and 20 years ago). You might not have read the entire article.

Re: Do other owners of WD Gold disks hear a periodic plonk ?

Hi, David Christensen wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Click_of_death But that's a different technology (and 20 years ago). > If you cannot return the drive, I would download, install, and run > "Data Lifeguard Diagnostic for Windows": > https://support.wdc.com/downloads.aspx?DL#downloads

Re: Some OT questions from a mild noob about an IP network

ghe2001 wrote: > Buster, Cisco IOS router, T1 connection. But it probably doesn't matter. (an actual T1? really? Not even a PRI? Yes, this is irrelevant to your question) > I have a /31 transit net (n.n.n.40 to 43) to my ISP. I had everything to/from > that net allowed, but I was getting strang

Re: Do other owners of WD Gold disks hear a periodic plonk ?

On 2020-07-24 12:14, Reco wrote: Hi. On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 08:49:42PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, i got my new computer with a 4 GB WD Gold (WDC WD4003FRYZ-01F0DB0) and observe a strange behavior with a provisory Debian 10 LXDE installation. If the drive has power then i makes

Re: [Sid] ahci: disk order

> HDD=/dev/sdb, SSD=/dev/sda. Is there any way to fix the disk order? I would The usual recommendation is to change the way you work such that you don't depend on those names. Personally, I use LVM so all my "partitions" (called "logical volumes") have a name that I chose. I started using LVM fo

Re: Looking for advise about optional i915 DMC firmware

Thomas Schmitt wrote: > - How desirable or undesirable is to install this particular firmware ? If you're on a laptop, you probably want this. It enables certain special very short sleep modes to save extra power. On a server or desktop, you don't care. Servers reduce power by themselves and des

Re: Looking for advise about optional i915 DMC firmware

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 09:13:52PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > [1.158508] i915 :00:02.0: Direct firmware load for > i915/kbl_dmc_ver1_04.bin failed with error -2 > The desired firmware file seems to be indeed available at > > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware

Re: Do other owners of WD Gold disks hear a periodic plonk ?

Hi. On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 08:49:42PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > i got my new computer with a 4 GB WD Gold (WDC WD4003FRYZ-01F0DB0) and > observe a strange behavior with a provisory Debian 10 LXDE installation. > > If the drive has power then i makes a plonking noise every 3

Looking for advise about optional i915 DMC firmware

Hi, my new computer reports at boot time that some graphics firmware is missing: [1.158505] i915 :00:02.0: firmware: failed to load i915/kbl_dmc_ver1_04.bin (-2) [1.158507] firmware_class: See https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware for information about missing firmware [1.158508] i91

Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 09:49:04PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Aren't those files an internal implementation detail? Most users won't > ever need to interact with those files or even be aware of their > existence. The whole design is built around "you can do this with systemctl commands, or b

Re: [Sid] ahci: disk order

Hi. On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:03:01PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 24 iul 20, 21:58:26, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Vi, 24 iul 20, 19:39:21, Grzesiek Sójka wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > > > > I noticed that SATA disks appear in random order. More precisely, I have > > > two > >

Re: Do other owners of WD Gold disks hear a periodic plonk ?

Thomas Schmitt wrote: > If the drive has power then i makes a plonking noise every 3 to 5 > seconds. The plonk is louder when Debian runs, but can also be > heard (and felt by direct finger contact with the disk) if only EFI > is running. The sound is not really loud but well hearable when the > r

Re: Do other owners of WD Gold disks hear a periodic plonk ?

On 2020-07-24 11:49, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, i got my new computer with a 4 GB WD Gold (WDC WD4003FRYZ-01F0DB0) and observe a strange behavior with a provisory Debian 10 LXDE installation. If the drive has power then i makes a plonking noise every 3 to 5 seconds. The plonk is louder when Debi

Re: [Sid] ahci: disk order

On Vi, 24 iul 20, 21:58:26, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 24 iul 20, 19:39:21, Grzesiek Sójka wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > I noticed that SATA disks appear in random order. More precisely, I have two > > disks, HDD and SSD. Sometimes HDD=/dev/sda, SSD=/dev/sdb and sometimes > > HDD=/dev/sdb, SSD=

Re: [Sid] ahci: disk order

On Vi, 24 iul 20, 19:39:21, Grzesiek Sójka wrote: > Hi there, > > I noticed that SATA disks appear in random order. More precisely, I have two > disks, HDD and SSD. Sometimes HDD=/dev/sda, SSD=/dev/sdb and sometimes > HDD=/dev/sdb, SSD=/dev/sda. Is there any way to fix the disk order? Not that I

Do other owners of WD Gold disks hear a periodic plonk ?

Hi, i got my new computer with a 4 GB WD Gold (WDC WD4003FRYZ-01F0DB0) and observe a strange behavior with a provisory Debian 10 LXDE installation. If the drive has power then i makes a plonking noise every 3 to 5 seconds. The plonk is louder when Debian runs, but can also be heard (and felt by d

Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster

On Vi, 24 iul 20, 17:53:53, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 05:18:24PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Vi, 24 iul 20, 15:00:32, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 01:26:50PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > Seriously? > > > > > > Yes seriously. This is

Re: [Sid] ahci: disk order

On 7/24/20, Grzesiek Sójka wrote: > Hi there, > > I noticed that SATA disks appear in random order. More precisely, I have > two disks, HDD and SSD. Sometimes HDD=/dev/sda, SSD=/dev/sdb and > sometimes HDD=/dev/sdb, SSD=/dev/sda. Is there any way to fix the disk > order? I would like the disk conn

linux-image-5.7.0-1-amd64: Oops on kernel (NULL pointer dereference) after NFS is mounted on client

Hello, my server (Debian bullseye) is crashing after i mount a nfs (with kerberos) share on a client machine (same debian). I have no idea how to file the bug (and where it belongs). I can't use the reportbug tool since I do not have a MTA configured. BUG: kernel NULL pointer dereference, adress

[Sid] ahci: disk order

Hi there, I noticed that SATA disks appear in random order. More precisely, I have two disks, HDD and SSD. Sometimes HDD=/dev/sda, SSD=/dev/sdb and sometimes HDD=/dev/sdb, SSD=/dev/sda. Is there any way to fix the disk order? I would like the disk connected to port 1 to be sda, disk connected

Re: Verifying authenticity of Debian CDs

On 7/24/2020 6:08 PM, Semih Ozlem wrote: No that does not work, for some reason it is saying "no command supplied" when corrected with dashes before verify I am getting the old problem Yep, I forgot the dashes befor 'verify'.. 'gpg --keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve --verify SHA512SUMS.sign

Re: Verifying authenticity of Debian CDs

And it turns out that /etc/apt/trusted.gpg has the buster-stable, the buster-automatic and the buster-security keys by default but _NOT_ the debian-cd signing key so the stage of importing the key to match the specific Debian CD signing key is still valid. All best, as ever, Andy C. On Fri, Jul

Re: Verifying authenticity of Debian CDs

I've just written up longer instructions on my own web page at FLOSSlinux which should explain the steps I've just followed for myself. Check those and see what you think. I'll have a go at importing from /etc/apt/trusted.gpg and see what that looks like. That

Re: Verifying authenticity of Debian CDs

> when I run the command > gpg --verify SHAxSUM.sign SHAxSUM > I get a message saying that > > Can't check signature: No public key You should have the needed key(s) in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg, but to be honest I don't know how to best pass those to GPG. Stefan

Re: Verifying authenticity of Debian CDs

On 7/24/2020 5:50 PM, Semih Ozlem wrote: On the web page https://www.debian.org/CD/verify I am trying to follow the next paragraph. "To ensure that the checksums files themselves are correct, use GnuPG to verify them against the accompanying signature files (e.g. SHA512SUMS.sign). The keys used f

Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 05:18:24PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 24 iul 20, 15:00:32, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 01:26:50PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > Seriously? > > > > Yes seriously. This is a pain point that could be avoided. I'm not a > > systemd hater.

Verifying authenticity of Debian CDs

On the web page https://www.debian.org/CD/verify I am trying to follow the next paragraph. "To ensure that the checksums files themselves are correct, use GnuPG to verify them against the accompanying signature files (e.g. SHA512SUMS.sign). The keys used for these signatures are all in the Debian G

Re: proper config for specific pks upgrade from stable to testing

On Vi, 24 iul 20, 16:21:28, daggs wrote: > > > Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 at 12:13 PM > > From: "Andrei POPESCU" > > > > With only these pins the rest of testing is priority 500, same as > > stable. Probably not what you want. > > so I need to demote the rest of testing is priority to below 500

Re: proper config for specific pks upgrade from stable to testing

Greetings Andrei, > Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 at 12:13 PM > From: "Andrei POPESCU" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: proper config for specific pks upgrade from stable to testing > > On Vi, 24 iul 20, 08:37:52, daggs wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > I want to upgrade these specific

Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster

On Vi, 24 iul 20, 15:00:32, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 01:26:50PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > Seriously? > > Yes seriously. This is a pain point that could be avoided. I'm not a > systemd hater. I do some quite advanced things with it. But I don't > think it's above cri

Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster]

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 09:52:29AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > I don't know of any specific term for a directory's physical > manifestation, other than "directory". > > In the olden days, a directory was basically a series of 16-byte > records (14 bytes for the filename, 2 bytes for the

Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster]

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 09:56:27AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2020-07-24 at 09:50, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > Since writing that, I've had occasion to remember the term 'dirent', > which I think is more the in-memory representation of a directory than > the on-disk representation, but m

Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 01:26:50PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Seriously? Yes seriously. This is a pain point that could be avoided. I'm not a systemd hater. I do some quite advanced things with it. But I don't think it's above criticism, and this is an area I feel is worthy of criticism. Co

Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster]

On 2020-07-24 at 09:50, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 09:42:24AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2020-07-24 at 09:22, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >>> Nitpick: the directory entry is the one carrying the name. >> >> I had the impression that even a directory is stored in/as

Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster]

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 09:42:24AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2020-07-24 at 09:22, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 07:54:27AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 07:49:26AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > >> > >>> Sounds like a case where directly

Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster]

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 09:42:24AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: On 2020-07-24 at 09:22, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 07:54:27AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 07:49:26AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: Sounds like a case where directly editing the underlying

Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster]

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 09:42:24AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2020-07-24 at 09:22, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 07:54:27AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 07:49:26AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > >> > >>> Sounds like a case where directly

Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster]

On 2020-07-24 at 09:22, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 07:54:27AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 07:49:26AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: >> >>> Sounds like a case where directly editing the underlying device, >>> to modify inode-or-equivalent contents s

Re: Slow wifi-reconnection when waking up

Hi, I have two Debian laptops at home: a Dell E7440 running testing/sid and a Lenovo T400 running stable with LibreBoot, both with Gnome and NetworkManager. I think I always had the same issue with the Dell (I had it in 2017 I think), while Wi-Fi reconnects immediately with the T400. So in m

Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster]

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 07:54:27AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 07:49:26AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > Sounds like a case where directly editing the underlying device, to > > modify inode-or-equivalent contents such that the slash is no longer ^ Nitpick:

Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster]

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 07:49:26AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > Sounds like a case where directly editing the underlying device, to > modify inode-or-equivalent contents such that the slash is no longer > there, might even be *advisable*. Yeah, some sort of direct hex-edit on the unmounted file sy

Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster]

On 2020-07-24 at 07:45, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 07:16:06PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2020-07-23 at 06:26, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >>> Seriously? Could you please show me how would I create a file on >>> *nix containing '/' in the name? >> >> It's theoretically possi

Re: slashes in filenames [was Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster]

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 07:16:06PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2020-07-23 at 06:26, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > Seriously? Could you please show me how would I create a file on *nix > > containing '/' in the name? > > It's theoretically possible, but AFAIK basically nothing would support > it or

Re: Slic3r --gui won't run

Gene Heskett wrote: > >So please tell me why, despite all the other distributions using your >code base to make extremely stable versions of buster, has debian rather >pointedly, indeed gone out of your way, to unsupport the rpi's? Nobody has "gone out of their way" to *unsupport* anything. That

Antipatterns and Handcuffs [was: Re: Resolved (without understanding ...]

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 12:01:21PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 24 iul 20, 10:58:24, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > It's as if they were copying the disruptive antipatterns of proprietary > > software companies. But we don't need those antipatterns in the free > > software context, do we

Re: proper config for specific pks upgrade from stable to testing

On Vi, 24 iul 20, 08:37:52, daggs wrote: > Greetings, > > I want to upgrade these specific pkgs from stable to testing: > libvirt-clients/stable,now 5.0.0-4+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,upgradable to: > 6.4.0-2] > libvirt-daemon-system/stable,now 5.0.0-4+deb10u1 amd64 [installed,upgradable > to: 6.4

Re: Resolved (without understanding ; -) (was: Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster)

On Vi, 24 iul 20, 10:58:24, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > It's as if they were copying the disruptive antipatterns of proprietary > software companies. But we don't need those antipatterns in the free > software context, do we? One person's bug is another's feature. Kind regards, Andrei -- http:/

Re: Resolved (without understanding ; -) (was: Re: Error while trying to install openssh-server on Buster)

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 06:48:10PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 23 Jul 2020 at 10:12:09 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > Hours of fun :-) > > Sure, I agree. But they're hours I don't really have. That's one > reason why I don't run a DE: I just don't understand what's going on >