For Newbies: One line descriptions of important Linux packages

2019-12-31 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
Hi, and Happy New Year (almost)! This is something that might be helpful for newbies especially. Was going through some things on my computer and found a NICE list of familiar Linux package names with SUPER BRIEF, SUPER SIMPLE one-liners describing what they do. The list is from Linux From Scratc

Re: Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]

2019-12-31 Thread Sven Hartge
ghe wrote: > Sven and Andrei, I told you lies. The script's not a daemon. I added > Sven's suggested lines to the .service file, re-enabled it, rebooted, > and it came up exactly as I wanted it to. Aha! Thought as much. While I myself have written daemons in bash, doing so is at least unusual.

Re: Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]

2019-12-31 Thread Sven Hartge
ghe wrote: > On 12/31/19 6:09 AM, Sven Hartge wrote: >> Care to share your Shell-Script? > I'd have no problem with that -- it's been very useful to me over the > years, and I'd be glad for someone to use it. > However. It was written 20 years ago when I was just figuring out > Linux and the s

Re: Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]

2019-12-31 Thread ghe
Sven and Andrei, I told you lies. The script's not a daemon. I added Sven's suggested lines to the .service file, re-enabled it, rebooted, and it came up exactly as I wanted it to. Apparently what it does is build an iptables firewall, and quit. Then when I ask for things, it comes up, crudely pa

Re: Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]

2019-12-31 Thread ghe
On 12/31/19 6:09 AM, Sven Hartge wrote: > Care to share your Shell-Script? I'd have no problem with that -- it's been very useful to me over the years, and I'd be glad for someone to use it. However. It was written 20 years ago when I was just figuring out Linux and the shell, and it's been 'up

Re: OT: Question about 10/100 switch on a LAN with a faster router

2019-12-31 Thread David Christensen
On 2019-12-31 05:03, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Mostly an aside: My brother lives in rural podunk USA and he has a fiber optic connection which his ISP says gives him 500 mbps (I live in a fairly urban location but can't get fiber) Background: His ISP says he has a 500 mbps connection which, with

Re: No Grub to launch my new Debian 10 with LUKS&LVM (UEFI)

2019-12-31 Thread l0f4r0
Hi Didier, Thank you for your feedback. Actually, thinking it would help, I've just deleted my whole Windows installation (I just kept its recovery and small reserved partitions) and reinstalled Debian 10 with LUKS&LVM. It has resolved some of my problems but I have another one: Debian 10 canno

Re: realtime kernel on ARM hardware

2019-12-31 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 05:05:07PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-12-30 21:00:55) > > > > > If debian was serious about supporting the "arm's" that would have > > > been fixed several years ago by moving that list and its contents to > > > "debian-arm-devel", and

Re: Pub Key Exchange Between Buster and Windows10

2019-12-31 Thread Dan Ritter
Martin McCormick wrote: > good. The final step of getting them to connect via shared > public keys is good from the Windows box to the debian box but > not completely the other way around as in debian trying to log in to > Windows10. > > Going from Windows to Linux, no password is needed t

Re: Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]

2019-12-31 Thread tomas
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 04:23:24PM +0100, Sven Hartge wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 03:34:34PM +0100, Sven Hartge wrote: [...] > >> The usr-merge is already here, if you install Debian Buster [...] > > or upgrading from a non-user-merge installation :-) > > Sure.

Re: Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]

2019-12-31 Thread Sven Hartge
tony wrote: > On 31/12/2019 15:34, Sven Hartge wrote: >> Kenneth Parker wrote: >> >>> +1 for information, on where System Files are stored on Debian, as well as >>> for the reminder of the "/usr Merge" that might hit a fan someday. >> >> The usr-merge is already here, if you install Debian Bust

Re: Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]

2019-12-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 04:02:46PM +0100, tony wrote: > Well, a while ago, I upgrade my stretch to buster, but I see no evidence > of symlinks to /usr in my root fs. How come? https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#merged-usr https://wiki.debian.org/UsrMerg

Re: Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]

2019-12-31 Thread tony
On 31/12/2019 15:34, Sven Hartge wrote: > Kenneth Parker wrote: > >> +1 for information, on where System Files are stored on Debian, as well as >> for the reminder of the "/usr Merge" that might hit a fan someday. > > The usr-merge is already here, if you install Debian Buster. The > installer c

Re: Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]

2019-12-31 Thread Sven Hartge
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 03:34:34PM +0100, Sven Hartge wrote: >> Kenneth Parker wrote: >>> +1 for information, on where System Files are stored on Debian, as >>> well as for the reminder of the "/usr Merge" that might hit a fan >>> someday. >> >> The usr-merge is alread

Re: Giveaway-Laptop: sending system mails

2019-12-31 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 31 dec 19, 14:11:06, Markus Grunwald wrote: > Dear List Participants, > > An elder friend of mine uses his 10 year old Sony Vayo with Windows 7 > mainly for browsing the net, homebanking, E-Mails. Due to several > reasons, I want to give him a Laptop with Debian Linux that I will support. >

Re: Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]

2019-12-31 Thread tomas
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 03:34:34PM +0100, Sven Hartge wrote: > Kenneth Parker wrote: > > > +1 for information, on where System Files are stored on Debian, as well as > > for the reminder of the "/usr Merge" that might hit a fan someday. > > The usr-merge is already here, if you install Debian Bu

Re: Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]

2019-12-31 Thread Sven Hartge
Kenneth Parker wrote: > +1 for information, on where System Files are stored on Debian, as well as > for the reminder of the "/usr Merge" that might hit a fan someday. The usr-merge is already here, if you install Debian Buster. The installer creates a usr-merged filesystem and you, short of rem

Pub Key Exchange Between Buster and Windows10

2019-12-31 Thread Martin McCormick
It was great news to find out that Windows10 includes an openssh client and server and I got the Windows10 system and one Debian Buster system to communicate via ssh/scp which is all good. The final step of getting them to connect via shared public keys is good from the Windows box to the

Re: Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]

2019-12-31 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 8:42 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 12:30:05AM -0700, ghe wrote: > > As I said before, (grumble, grumble, systemd, grumble, grumble). It > seems to be pretty nicely done system code, but with an absolutely > abominable user interface. So far, I know of sys

Re: Giveaway-Laptop: sending system mails

2019-12-31 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 02:11:06PM +0100, Markus Grunwald wrote: > But, there is a problem: I have to put the plain mail password in > /etc/msmtprc, because the normal user won't be there to unlock a gpg > file or give msmtp the password in any other way. That means, I want > /etc/msmt

Re: OT: Question about 10/100 switch on a LAN with a faster router

2019-12-31 Thread rhkramer
Thanks (earlier I thanked Christian directly), but I wanted to add that the sketch he drew (below) does correctly reflect the intended LAN configuration. On Tuesday, December 31, 2019 08:28:03 AM Christian Seiler wrote: > Hi there, > > Am 2019-12-31 14:03, schrieb rhkra...@gmail.com: > > I'm abo

Re: OT: Question about 10/100 switch on a LAN with a faster router

2019-12-31 Thread john doe
On 12/31/2019 2:03 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Mostly an aside: My brother lives in rural podunk USA and he has a fiber optic > connection which his ISP says gives him 500 mbps (I live in a fairly urban > location but can't get fiber) > > Background: His ISP says he has a 500 mbps connection wh

Re: Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]

2019-12-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 12:30:05AM -0700, ghe wrote: > As I said before, (grumble, grumble, systemd, grumble, grumble). It seems to > be pretty nicely done system code, but with an absolutely abominable user > interface. So far, I know of systemd dirs in /lib, /etc, and /usr. That's no > way to

Re: Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]

2019-12-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 05:07:47PM -0700, ghe wrote: > root@test:~# systemctl status ipfilter > ● ipfilter.service - packetFilter >Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/ipfilter.service; enabled; > vendor preset: enabled) packages.debian.org says: You have searched for files named /usr/lib/

Re: OT: Question about 10/100 switch on a LAN with a faster router

2019-12-31 Thread Christian Seiler
Hi there, Am 2019-12-31 14:03, schrieb rhkra...@gmail.com: I'm about to recommend that he get a 10/100 5 port Ethernet switch to connect to the two cameras and then a short cat5 (or better) Ethernet cable to connect from the switch to the router. I'm abouit 99.9% sure that using such a switch

Re: Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]

2019-12-31 Thread Sven Hartge
ghe wrote: > On 12/31/19 1:05 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >>> I guess I misunderstood the term 'daemon.' I thought it was just a >>> piece of software that, when run, stays run until it's through -- when >>> it's started at boot and has no exit, hangs around in the background >>> doing stuff. Un

Giveaway-Laptop: sending system mails

2019-12-31 Thread Markus Grunwald
Dear List Participants, An elder friend of mine uses his 10 year old Sony Vayo with Windows 7 mainly for browsing the net, homebanking, E-Mails. Due to several reasons, I want to give him a Laptop with Debian Linux that I will support. Several things should work to keep my active involvement low.

OT: Question about 10/100 switch on a LAN with a faster router

2019-12-31 Thread rhkramer
Mostly an aside: My brother lives in rural podunk USA and he has a fiber optic connection which his ISP says gives him 500 mbps (I live in a fairly urban location but can't get fiber) Background: His ISP says he has a 500 mbps connection which, without having seen his setup in a number of year

Re: Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]

2019-12-31 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 31 December 2019 05:37:54 Joe wrote: > On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 04:37:10 -0500 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 31 December 2019 02:30:05 ghe wrote: > > > > On Dec 30, 2019, at 05:47 PM, Sven Hartge > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Please show the output of > > > > > > > >systemctl

Re: Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]

2019-12-31 Thread Joe
On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 04:37:10 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 31 December 2019 02:30:05 ghe wrote: > > > > On Dec 30, 2019, at 05:47 PM, Sven Hartge > > > wrote: > > > > > > Please show the output of > > > > > >systemctl cat YOUR_SERVICE_UNIT > > > > > > This will show all additions a

Re: Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]

2019-12-31 Thread mick crane
On 2019-12-31 09:21, ghe wrote: But what I'm really looking for is a comprehensive book on systemd like the 40 pounder 'Learning Python' or other O'Reilly, etc, books that've saved my life in the past few years. (I'm more comfortable with dead trees than I am with screens.) When Microsoft was

Re: Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]

2019-12-31 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 31 December 2019 02:30:05 ghe wrote: > > On Dec 30, 2019, at 05:47 PM, Sven Hartge > > wrote: > > > > Please show the output of > > > >systemctl cat YOUR_SERVICE_UNIT > > > > This will show all additions and overrides to the unit. > > root@test:~# systemctl cat ipfilter > # /usr/li

Re: Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]

2019-12-31 Thread ghe
On 12/31/19 1:05 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> I guess I misunderstood the term 'daemon.' I thought it was just a >> piece of software that, when run, stays run until it's through -- when >> it's started at boot and has no exit, hangs around in the background >> doing stuff. Unless somebody tell

Re: On systemd, raspbian and off-topics [was: systemdq]

2019-12-31 Thread tomas
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 02:08:17PM +0900, 황병희 wrote: > > I actually do enjoy off-topic tangents, and [...] > > Me too, happy new year tomás ^^^ Happy new year to yo, too (and to all others here). May your dreams come true, whether you like systemd or not :-) Cheers -- t signature.asc Descripti

Re: Back to systemd [was: Re: New list for Raspbian? (was: Re: systemdq)]

2019-12-31 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 31 dec 19, 00:30:05, ghe wrote: > > I guess I misunderstood the term 'daemon.' I thought it was just a > piece of software that, when run, stays run until it's through -- when > it's started at boot and has no exit, hangs around in the background > doing stuff. Unless somebody tells it t