Re: apparent change in hostnames on LAN without admin intervention

2019-12-14 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
On 15/12/2019 00:35, Jape Person wrote: On 12/14/19 3:56 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 13 dec 19, 19:33:51, Jape Person wrote: Hi folks. Did I miss something? I've had 3 Sid/testing systems running on the same LAN behind the same router for just shy of 3 years. Their static IP addresses hav

Re: Claws mail click on folder - shows zero mails,,,,,

2019-12-14 Thread Charlie
On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 10:36:22 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 14 dec 19, 09:41:42, Charlie wrote: > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > Debian Buster - Claws mail version 3.17.3 > > > > The GUI of Claws Mail shows folders containing amounts of read > > Did you mean *un*read? All mail

Re: Claws mail click on folder - shows zero mails,,,,,

2019-12-14 Thread Charlie
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 22:53:19 + Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 09:41:42 +1100 > Charlie wrote: > > Hello Charlie, > > >emails, but when clicked on the numbers vanish and each column shows > >only zeros. > {} > >If anyone has any ideas, thanks in advance. > > Have you

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 15/12/19 7:53 am, ghe wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019, 17:12 Britton Kerin wrote: >> >>> I see from below vote that we're working on dumping other init systems >>> now as expected. Luckily I've given up on debian since systemd in the >>> first place and am in long process of finding a replace

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread ghe
On 12/14/19 2:35 PM, Darac Marjal wrote: > Why do people get so het up about Ethernet names in Linux? They're > renamable quite easily. So you can have "eth0" or "ens92" or "wlp0s41" > or "internet" or "Local Area Connection 1" if you like. Well, perhaps > not the last one. I'm not sure about spac

Re: apparent change in hostnames on LAN without admin intervention

2019-12-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 14 dec 19, 14:05:01, Jape Person wrote: > > The hostnames and local domain name were used during installation. Ok, so they are probably configured in /etc/hostname, possibly also /etc/hosts. > The static DHCP addresses are issued by a Luxul XWR-1750 router which > associates the hostnam

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Darac Marjal
On 14/12/2019 20:53, ghe wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019, 17:12 Britton Kerin wrote: >> >>> I see from below vote that we're working on dumping other init systems >>> now as expected. Luckily I've given up on debian since systemd in the >>> first place and am in long process of finding a replaceme

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread ghe
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019, 17:12 Britton Kerin wrote: > >> I see from below vote that we're working on dumping other init systems >> now as expected. Luckily I've given up on debian since systemd in the >> first place and am in long process of finding a replacement. Might want to take a look at

Re: apparent change in hostnames on LAN without admin intervention

2019-12-14 Thread Brian
On Sat 14 Dec 2019 at 13:59:29 -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Jape writes: > > I live in a condo where I can see at least three dozen (no kidding) > > printers advertising their services. > > Take them up on their offer and print something on each of them. Advertising a service does not mean it an

Re: apparent change in hostnames on LAN without admin intervention

2019-12-14 Thread John Hasler
Jape writes: > I live in a condo where I can see at least three dozen (no kidding) > printers advertising their services. Take them up on their offer and print something on each of them. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: apparent change in hostnames on LAN without admin intervention

2019-12-14 Thread Brian
On Sat 14 Dec 2019 at 14:05:01 -0500, Jape Person wrote: > Contents of /etc/resolv.conf: > > search local > nameserver 208.67.220.220 Why is "search local" required? .local is catered for with avahi/libnss-mdns. -- Brian.

Re: apparent change in hostnames on LAN without admin intervention

2019-12-14 Thread Jape Person
On 12/14/19 8:45 AM, Brian wrote: On Fri 13 Dec 2019 at 22:04:18 -0500, Jape Person wrote: On 12/13/19 8:55 PM, David Wright wrote: But is it possible you've started using avahi/bonjour when previously you didn't? Or has the router upgraded itself and now knows not to issue names like that?

Re: apparent change in hostnames on LAN without admin intervention

2019-12-14 Thread Jape Person
On 12/14/19 8:02 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, December 13, 2019 10:04:18 PM Jape Person wrote: Could this change be due to recent upgrades in software? (I upgrade every day.) I've reviewed the recent upgrades listed in /var/log/apt/history.log. I would have thought any deliberate cha

Re: apparent change in hostnames on LAN without admin intervention

2019-12-14 Thread Jape Person
On 12/14/19 3:56 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 13 dec 19, 19:33:51, Jape Person wrote: Hi folks. Did I miss something? I've had 3 Sid/testing systems running on the same LAN behind the same router for just shy of 3 years. Their static IP addresses have always been issued by the DHCP server o

Re: apparent change in hostnames on LAN without admin intervention

2019-12-14 Thread Jape Person
On 12/14/19 4:40 AM, Curt wrote: On 2019-12-14, Jape Person wrote: I could be quite wrong, but I thought that "local" was actually suggested as a domain name at one time by the installer. (And I could be remembering a different distro, though I've been using Debian for a long time -- at leas

Re: apparent change in hostnames on LAN without admin intervention

2019-12-14 Thread Jape Person
On 12/14/19 1:24 AM, john doe wrote: Assuming that you are using the router from your ISP, it is possible that the firmware has been upgraded without your nolage. One way to prevent this could be (1), that is, use your own router/server/gateway so you control everything on your LAN. I use an E

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2019-12-14 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, 13 déc. 2019 à 00:29 de a...@cityscape.co.uk: > On Thu 12 Dec 2019 at 21:13:06 +0100, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > >> 10 déc. 2019 à 23:11 de a...@cityscape.co.uk: >> >> > On Tue 10 Dec 2019 at 22:34:07 +0100, l0f...@tuta.io wrote: >> > >> > >> I've read the documentation. User needs to remember a

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 14:05:43 + Jonathan Dowland wrote: Hello Jonathan, >The disassociation between the population of debian-user and the >project itself, Is (inevitable|a fact of life). It's Debian's ball. It's Debian's game. They make the rules. >who's it was), is still eye-opening to me.

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 14 dec 19, 14:05:43, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 08:46:55AM -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > Discussions have been taking place on debian-vote (specific to this > > vote), but also debian-project, debian-devel, and various other Debian > > mailing lists. For. A. Lo

Re: Help! Borked suspend/hibernate after adding swap partition

2019-12-14 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 14/12/2019 à 16:35, Ottavio Caruso a écrit : On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 at 13:47, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 14/12/2019 à 14:20, Ottavio Caruso a écrit : I've also added: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="resume d823f1ee-2e16-4327-b0c1-639f377002bb" Wrong syntax. It should be "resume=UUID=d823...".

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2019 #1206

2019-12-14 Thread Phil Wyett
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Re: apparent change in hostnames on LAN without admin intervention

2019-12-14 Thread john doe
On 12/14/2019 4:23 PM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting john doe (2019-12-14 15:54:20) >> On 12/14/2019 2:36 PM, Curt wrote: >>> On 2019-12-14, David Wright wrote: On Fri 13 Dec 2019 at 19:33:51 (-0500), Jape Person wrote: > Hi folks. Did I miss something? Perhaps a couple of r

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread tomas
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 01:23:14PM +0100, Alessandro Vesely wrote: > On Sat 14/Dec/2019 03:18:39 +0100 Kenneth Parker wrote: > > > > I use Devuan, especially on older hardware.   Works well.  > > > Good to know. For the time being, I see SysV is working. I'm on old-stable > Debian. As, in a f

Re: Help! Borked suspend/hibernate after adding swap partition

2019-12-14 Thread Ottavio Caruso
On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 at 13:47, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > Le 14/12/2019 à 14:20, Ottavio Caruso a écrit : > (...) > > I've also added: > > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="resume d823f1ee-2e16-4327-b0c1-639f377002bb" > > Wrong syntax. It should be "resume=UUID=d823...". > This will override the RESUME

Re: apparent change in hostnames on LAN without admin intervention

2019-12-14 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting john doe (2019-12-14 15:54:20) > On 12/14/2019 2:36 PM, Curt wrote: > > On 2019-12-14, David Wright wrote: > >> On Fri 13 Dec 2019 at 19:33:51 (-0500), Jape Person wrote: > >>> Hi folks. Did I miss something? > >> > >> Perhaps a couple of references: > >> https://features.icann.org/addres

Re: apparent change in hostnames on LAN without admin intervention

2019-12-14 Thread john doe
On 12/14/2019 2:36 PM, Curt wrote: > On 2019-12-14, David Wright wrote: >> On Fri 13 Dec 2019 at 19:33:51 (-0500), Jape Person wrote: >>> Hi folks. Did I miss something? >> >> Perhaps a couple of references: >> https://features.icann.org/addressing-new-gtld-program-applications-corp-home-and-mail

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 08:46:55AM -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: Discussions have been taking place on debian-vote (specific to this vote), but also debian-project, debian-devel, and various other Debian mailing lists. For. A. Long. Time. The disassociation between the population of debian-

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 07:58:59AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > Where was this survey / vote? What was the question? Not very many voters, > and the meanings of some of the choices are not very clear to me -- maybe > they > would be with the added context of knowing the question and/or s

Re: unstable: directory pulse in root directory : /pulse where from?

2019-12-14 Thread Brian
On Sat 14 Dec 2019 at 10:04:34 +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > Brian wrote on 13/12/2019 21:29: > > On Fri 13 Dec 2019 at 20:26:32 +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> does anybody know which package generates the directory /pulse ? This is a > >> bug > >> in unstable I th

Re: Help! Borked suspend/hibernate after adding swap partition

2019-12-14 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 14/12/2019 à 14:20, Ottavio Caruso a écrit : $ sudo update-initramfs -u -k all update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-11-amd64 I: The initramfs will attempt to resume from /dev/sda7 I: (UUID=d823f1ee-2e16-4327-b0c1-639f377002bb) I: Set the RESUME variable to override this. (...)

Re: apparent change in hostnames on LAN without admin intervention

2019-12-14 Thread Brian
On Fri 13 Dec 2019 at 22:04:18 -0500, Jape Person wrote: > On 12/13/19 8:55 PM, David Wright wrote: > > > But is it possible you've started using avahi/bonjour when previously > > you didn't? Or has the router upgraded itself and now knows not to > > issue names like that? > > I'll check to see

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 07:58:59 -0500 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Hello rhkra...@gmail.com, >Where was this survey / vote? What was the question? Not very many Voting closes 27 Dec 2019. Only Debian Developers are eligible to vote. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Alessandro, Quoting Alessandro Vesely (2019-12-14 13:23:14) > On Sat 14/Dec/2019 03:18:39 +0100 Kenneth Parker wrote: > > > > I use Devuan, especially on older hardware.   Works well.  > > > Good to know. For the time being, I see SysV is working. I'm on > old-stable Debian. As, in a few

Re: apparent change in hostnames on LAN without admin intervention

2019-12-14 Thread Curt
On 2019-12-14, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 13 Dec 2019 at 19:33:51 (-0500), Jape Person wrote: >> Hi folks. Did I miss something? > > Perhaps a couple of references: > https://features.icann.org/addressing-new-gtld-program-applications-corp-home-and-mail > which points out that any of .home, .mai

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread rhkramer
Where was this survey / vote? What was the question? Not very many voters, and the meanings of some of the choices are not very clear to me -- maybe they would be with the added context of knowing the question and/or source of the survey. E.g. : "Support portability, without blocking progress

Re: apparent change in hostnames on LAN without admin intervention

2019-12-14 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, December 13, 2019 10:04:18 PM Jape Person wrote: > >> Could this change be due to recent upgrades in software? (I upgrade > >> every day.) I've reviewed the recent upgrades listed in > >> /var/log/apt/history.log. I would have thought any deliberate change > >> of this behavior would hav

Re: looking for a replacement for debian since systemd

2019-12-14 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Sat 14/Dec/2019 03:18:39 +0100 Kenneth Parker wrote: > > I use Devuan, especially on older hardware.   Works well.  Good to know. For the time being, I see SysV is working. I'm on old-stable Debian. As, in a few months, it will be time to migrate, I'll have to decide on Devuan (current) vs

Re: Help! Borked suspend/hibernate after adding swap partition

2019-12-14 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 14/12/2019 à 12:26, Ottavio Caruso a écrit : $ sudo update-initramfs -u -k all update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-11-amd64 I: The initramfs will attempt to resume from /dev/sda7 I: (UUID=d823f1ee-2e16-4327-b0c1-639f377002bb) I: Set the RESUME variable to override this. I'll

Re: Help! Borked suspend/hibernate after adding swap partition

2019-12-14 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 14/12/2019 à 10:43, Alexander V. Makartsev a écrit : Simple swap partition creation is not enough for hibernation to work, it also has to be configured in initrd. [2] Despite the file name it is no longer an initrd but an initramfs. https://wiki.debian.org/Hibernation#Changing_or_moving_th

Re: apparent change in hostnames on LAN without admin intervention

2019-12-14 Thread mick crane
On 2019-12-14 03:04, Jape Person wrote: I could be quite wrong, but I thought that "local" was actually suggested as a domain name at one time by the installer. (And I could be remembering a different distro, though I've been using Debian for a long time -- at least 10 years, I think.) I suppose

Re: Help! Borked suspend/hibernate after adding swap partition

2019-12-14 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 13.12.2019 23:44, Ottavio Caruso wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running LMDE3 (based on Debian oldstable) on Thinkpad Edge E130. > I'm not getting much support lately from the Mint forums and that's > why I'm posting here. > > This laptop had been running happily with a mere 4GB RAM and no swap > until a

Re: apparent change in hostnames on LAN without admin intervention

2019-12-14 Thread Curt
On 2019-12-14, Jape Person wrote: > > I could be quite wrong, but I thought that "local" was actually suggested as > a domain name at one > time by the installer. (And I could be remembering a different distro, though > I've been using Debian > for a long time -- at least 10 years, I think.) I

Re: User Forgets Aliases

2019-12-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 14 dec 19, 04:27:39, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > For reasons unknown to me, my user seems to have forgotten aliases in > .bashrc! > > I find that I have to source the .bashrc use the aliases. This is rather > inconvenient as I have quite a few aliases that I use all of the time. > > Does an

Re: unstable: directory pulse in root directory : /pulse where from?

2019-12-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 14 dec 19, 10:04:34, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > Brian wrote on 13/12/2019 21:29: > > On Fri 13 Dec 2019 at 20:26:32 +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > >> > >> does anybody know which package generates the directory /pulse ? This is a > >> bug > >> in unstable I think, but I can't find which

User Forgets Aliases

2019-12-14 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
For reasons unknown to me, my user seems to have forgotten aliases in .bashrc! I find that I have to source the .bashrc use the aliases. This is rather inconvenient as I have quite a few aliases that I use all of the time. Does anyone haw any idea as to what might be going on here? Thanks in ad

Re: unstable: directory pulse in root directory : /pulse where from?

2019-12-14 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Brian wrote on 13/12/2019 21:29: > On Fri 13 Dec 2019 at 20:26:32 +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> does anybody know which package generates the directory /pulse ? This is a >> bug >> in unstable I think, but I can't find which package is the culprit. > > https://www.debian.org/

Re: rsyslog adding old entries again

2019-12-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 14 dec 19, 10:28:29, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 13 dec 19, 20:47:49, mj wrote: > > Hi Andrei, > > > > So: > > > > > root@pf:~# ps aux | grep rsyslog > > > root 11250 0.8 3.3 872116 274200 ? Ssl 15:37 2:26 > > > /usr/sbin/rsyslogd -n > > > root 23873 0.0 0.0 12780

Re: apparent change in hostnames on LAN without admin intervention

2019-12-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 13 dec 19, 19:33:51, Jape Person wrote: > Hi folks. Did I miss something? > > I've had 3 Sid/testing systems running on the same LAN behind the same > router for just shy of 3 years. Their static IP addresses have always been > issued by the DHCP server on the router. Everything has been co

Re: Claws mail click on folder - shows zero mails,,,,,

2019-12-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 14 dec 19, 09:41:42, Charlie wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > Debian Buster - Claws mail version 3.17.3 > > The GUI of Claws Mail shows folders containing amounts of read Did you mean *un*read? > emails, but when clicked on the numbers vanish and each column shows > only zeros

Re: rsyslog adding old entries again

2019-12-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 13 dec 19, 20:47:49, mj wrote: > Hi Andrei, > > So: > > > root@pf:~# ps aux | grep rsyslog > > root 11250 0.8 3.3 872116 274200 ? Ssl 15:37 2:26 > > /usr/sbin/rsyslogd -n > > root 23873 0.0 0.0 12780 968 pts/0S+ 20:25 0:00 grep > > rsyslog > > root@pf:~# s