Bug#934203: Please make it easier to trust external repositories without trusting their key for everything else

2019-08-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
Package: apt Severity: wishlist On Ma, 06 aug 19, 16:22:34, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > > I found a simple guide at > > > https://www.linuxbabe.com/debian/install-latest-virtualbox-6-0-10-debian-10-buster > > > In summary: > Create new sources file: > sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list.d/oracle-vi

Re: How free is Debian

2019-08-07 Thread john doe
On 8/8/2019 6:11 AM, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 07 Aug 2019 at 17:33:52 (-0700), Shahryar Afifi wrote: >> With respect to all the contributors, developers, hobbyist and users, >> who made GNU/Linux and Debian and all other distributions possible, >> here lies a humble, ignorance and yet curious q

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread deloptes
Steven Mainor wrote: > I would say a server is any piece of software or hardware that serves data > to other devices. > Well strictly speaking two different things are referred as server: hardware software In your case you are talking about buying hardware - correct? And if you

Re: How free is Debian

2019-08-07 Thread deloptes
Shahryar Afifi wrote: > Very well said. If debian free is not using amd64 microcode, so what > kernel module runs my cpu as 64bit? I was thinking the CPU is running and not something else running the CPU. I do not think you need something special to run 64bit CPU as such.

Re: How free is Debian

2019-08-07 Thread deloptes
Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > You may not reverse engineer, decompile, or disassemble this > Software or any portion thereof. The irony here is that AMD started by reverse engineering Intel. And unfortunately the US has been protecting monopoly and fake competition for years. Such things as Microsoft, A

Re: How free is Debian

2019-08-07 Thread David Wright
On Wed 07 Aug 2019 at 17:33:52 (-0700), Shahryar Afifi wrote: > With respect to all the contributors, developers, hobbyist and users, > who made GNU/Linux and Debian and all other distributions possible, > here lies a humble, ignorance and yet curious question. > > Are all binaries in the kernel c

Re: How free is Debian

2019-08-07 Thread John Hasler
Joe Pfeiffer writes: > The LICENCE.amd-ucode file > includes the paragraph: >You may not reverse engineer, decompile, or disassemble this >Software or any portion thereof. Quite unenforceable, of course. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: How free is Debian

2019-08-07 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Shahryar Afifi writes: > With respect to all the contributors, developers, hobbyist and users, > who made GNU/Linux and Debian and all other distributions possible, > here lies a humble, ignorance and yet curious question. > > Are all binaries in the kernel code were writing from scratch? Are > t

Re: WiFi interface unexpected response

2019-08-07 Thread zetam.imap
El 7/8/19 a las 03:48, Andrei POPESCU escribió: > Let me rephrase that: why do you need *both* /etc/network/interfaces and > wpa_supplicant.conf? > > Kind regards, > Andrei Thank you Andrei. Your insights driven me to solve the blob. By reading no haste and at the right place, I can understand

Re: How free is Debian

2019-08-07 Thread Judah Richardson
You don't need a license for an ISA to compile for it. You need a license only if you're developing a CPU that uses that ISA. On Wed, Aug 7, 2019, 19:34 Shahryar Afifi wrote: > With respect to all the contributors, developers, hobbyist and users, > who made GNU/Linux and Debian and all other dis

Re: Trackman Marble under wayland in Buster

2019-08-07 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 11:29:48AM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: > Hello, > I just updated to buster and with that comes wayland. > I am using a Trackman marble and I do have a custom > configuration for it to switch to scoll when I hold > button 8 (called "EmulateWheel"). > Is there a way to do t

Re: Buster on laptop cannot find Nokia 3 hotspot...

2019-08-07 Thread nektarios
On Wed, 07 Aug 2019 23:05:13 +0200 Nimrod wrote: > On Wed, 2019-08-07 at 14:45 -0400, bw wrote: > > In-Reply-To: > > > > > > 2) The output of `iwlist scan` to see if the network you > > > > re looking for is detected from the hardware. > > > This is interesting, I didn't know this comma

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 07 Aug 2019 17:12:20 +0200 deloptes wrote: > Michael Stone wrote: > > > Newer server hardware is much more power efficient and will draw very > > little power when idle. This is one of the drawbacks to saving money by > > using old hardware. (You can still use old hardware, just be sure

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-07 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > >mount -v /dev/sdc /wa1 > >echo $? Duh. "/dev/sdb2", not "/dev/sdc". (Do as i mean, not as i write.) Dennis Wicks wrote: > I'll put a note in my fstab so the next time I boot I can find it if the > mount fails again! Did i miss the report about some miracle cure beyond t

Re: Buster on laptop cannot find Nokia 3 hotspot...

2019-08-07 Thread Nimrod
On Wed, 2019-08-07 at 14:45 -0400, bw wrote: > In-Reply-To: > > > 2) The output of `iwlist scan` to see if the network you > > > re looking for is detected from the hardware. > > This is interesting, I didn't know this command. It would rather > > strange if the hotspot is shown by the above

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-07 Thread David Wright
On Wed 07 Aug 2019 at 12:44:39 (-0500), Dennis Wicks wrote: > David Wright wrote on 8/6/19 1:48 PM: > > On Tue 06 Aug 2019 at 12:18:21 (-0500), Dennis Wicks wrote: > > > Thomas Schmitt wrote on 8/6/19 10:30 AM: > > > > Dennis Wicks wrote: > > > > > I *cannot* mount *any* partition on /wa1 > > > > >

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread jochen-2019-q2
Am 07.08.2019 um 10:21 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard: Quoting Reco (2019-08-07 08:53:52) On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 01:29:21AM -0400, Steven Mainor wrote: I'm looking for advice on how to build a home server with a primary focus on security. I plan to run nextcloud and a mail server that will serve

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 12:44:39PM -0500, Dennis Wicks wrote: > And the > system does not object or give an error when you mount the same partition on > two diff dirs anyway! Sadly. And *very* surprisingly. You can only wish that it did.

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-07 Thread Dennis Wicks
Thomas Schmitt wrote on 8/6/19 1:58 PM: Hi, more ideas: exit value, verbous mode. mount -v /dev/sdc /wa1 echo $? A nominally successful mount command would yield 0 as "$?". Maybe -v yields some extra insight. Have a nice day :) Thomas Thanks, Thomas! I'll put a note in my fstab so

Re: Exim4 as a smarthost : Unrouteable address

2019-08-07 Thread Joe
On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 18:37:05 +0200 rudu wrote: > Thank you Dan for your input. > > Le 07/08/2019 à 17:28, Dan Purgert a écrit : > > rudu wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> Until recently my machines running debian testing used to send me > >> e-mails as reports from cron tasks or from LAMP applicati

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-07 Thread Dennis Wicks
David Wright wrote on 8/6/19 1:48 PM: On Tue 06 Aug 2019 at 12:18:21 (-0500), Dennis Wicks wrote: Thomas Schmitt wrote on 8/6/19 10:30 AM: Dennis Wicks wrote: I *cannot* mount *any* partition on /wa1 but I *can* mount *any* partition on any other mount point. So what do you get from these sh

Re: WiFi interface unexpected response

2019-08-07 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 09:48:03 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 06 aug 19, 18:13:02, zetam.imap wrote: > > > > > Why do you need this if you configure wpa in /etc/network/interfaces? > > > > Normally the wireless interface is activated when a user accesses their > > account on the graphica

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Steven Mainor
I would say a server is any piece of software or hardware that serves data to other devices. I have run an apache2/mariadb/php server from an old laptop with a headless LTS Linux for over two years without issue. Surely you aren't saying only a rack mounted 64 core monstrosity with a TB of ram

Re: Exim4 as a smarthost : Unrouteable address

2019-08-07 Thread rudu
Thank you Dan for your input. Le 07/08/2019 à 17:28, Dan Purgert a écrit : rudu wrote: Hi all, Until recently my machines running debian testing used to send me e-mails as reports from cron tasks or from LAMP applications. This is not working anymore. I did of course a dpkg-reconfigure exim4-c

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread ghe
Depends on what you're trying to do. I run a small domain on a T1 without pictures or audio, so I'm using a Raspberry Pi 3 as a server. Quite a bit faster than the old PDP-11s the 'Net started out with, and significantly less expensive. And smaller. My domain used to be a lot larger, but still a

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 05:12:20PM +0200, deloptes wrote: Michael Stone wrote: Newer server hardware is much more power efficient and will draw very little power when idle. This is one of the drawbacks to saving money by using old hardware. (You can still use old hardware, just be sure it's new

Re: Exim4 as a smarthost : Unrouteable address

2019-08-07 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 rudu wrote: > Hi all, > > Until recently my machines running debian testing used to send me > e-mails as reports from cron tasks or from LAMP applications. > This is not working anymore. > I did of course a dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config to get this

Trackman Marble under wayland in Buster

2019-08-07 Thread Henning Follmann
Hello, I just updated to buster and with that comes wayland. I am using a Trackman marble and I do have a custom configuration for it to switch to scoll when I hold button 8 (called "EmulateWheel"). Is there a way to do this under wayland? here is my previous marblemouse.conf for X: ##

Re: Buster on laptop cannot find Nokia 3 hotspot...

2019-08-07 Thread Nimrod
On Aug 7, 2019 11:38, Nektarios Katakis wrote:On Wed, 07 Aug 2019 10:42:09 +0200 Nimrod wrote: > Hi, > > my (very old) laptop has been working like a charm until I updated > from Stretch to Buster. Among the other, the issue in the subject is > very relevant for me. > > Here is what h

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread deloptes
Michael Stone wrote: > Newer server hardware is much more power efficient and will draw very > little power when idle. This is one of the drawbacks to saving money by > using old hardware. (You can still use old hardware, just be sure it's > new enough that it's from the era when power efficiency

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 04:53:52PM +0200, deloptes wrote: Years ago I build one to serve our needs at home. It has 4 virtual CPU and 32GB RAM - it uses 85Watt of power when not under load and it goes to above 100 if I compile software on it. It uses 10Watt more if I run a virtual machine (virtual

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread deloptes
Steven Mainor wrote: > I would like to keep the budget under $500 not including the hard drive(s) > I already have drives. Less is better. When I read server hardware I understand also server hardware. It has many CPUs a lot of ram, redundant power supply etc. It consumes a lot of power and costs

Re: Buster on laptop cannot find Nokia 3 hotspot...

2019-08-07 Thread Andrea Giuliano
On Aug 7, 2019 16:15, Curt wrote:On 2019-08-07, Nimrod wrote: > > > It seems there is something wrong with my laptop and Nokia 3 when they > try to communicate. Currently I'm still using my Nokia 3 as a modem via > > Thanks in advance for any hint. > I really have no idea, but I was jus

Re: Where do I find the Debian CAs?

2019-08-07 Thread Dan Ritter
Stephan Seitz wrote: > On Di, Aug 06, 2019 at 06:57:51 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Stephan Seitz wrote: > > > I’ve noticed that the Debian mailing list server is offering a > > > certificate as a client: > > > Client CN „clientcerts/bendel.debian.org”, Issuer „Debian SMTP CA” > > > > > > I can’t

Re: Buster on laptop cannot find Nokia 3 hotspot...

2019-08-07 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-07, Nimrod wrote: > > > It seems there is something wrong with my laptop and Nokia 3 when they > try to communicate. Currently I'm still using my Nokia 3 as a modem via > > Thanks in advance for any hint. > I really have no idea, but I was just reading that if it's a 5 ghz hotspot you'

Exim4 as a smarthost : Unrouteable address

2019-08-07 Thread rudu
Hi all, Until recently my machines running debian testing used to send me e-mails as reports from cron tasks or from LAMP applications. This is not working anymore. I did of course a dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config to get this /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf file : [...] # This is a Debian sp

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread mick crane
On 2019-08-07 11:13, Nektarios Katakis wrote: On Wed, 07 Aug 2019 02:08:30 -0400 Steven Mainor wrote: You are correct. That was an oversight. Of all the items on that page I could probably afford the screwdriver and the heatsinks. I would like to keep the budget under $500 not including the

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 05:58:57AM -0400, Steven Mainor wrote: > Thanks for the reply. Those seem like options to consider. The > pre-orders for the helios4 seem to be sold out for now. They are currently at fourth "campaign", i.e. they're manufacturing a fourth batch. Supply is limi

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Steven Mainor (2019-08-07 12:04:35) > Perhaps you are right about usb 2.0. And the Olimex A64-OLinuXino does > seem like a solid option otherwise. > > I wasn't able to verify which usb the Olimex A64-OLinuXino had. It > didn't specifically say on the specs page. And the github link for t

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Nektarios Katakis
On Wed, 07 Aug 2019 02:08:30 -0400 Steven Mainor wrote: > You are correct. That was an oversight. > > Of all the items on that page I could probably afford the screwdriver > and the heatsinks. > > I would like to keep the budget under $500 not including the hard > drive(s) I already have drives

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Steven Mainor
Perhaps you are right about usb 2.0. And the Olimex A64-OLinuXino does seem like a solid option otherwise. I wasn't able to verify which usb the Olimex A64-OLinuXino had. It didn't specifically say on the specs page. And the github link for the schematic seems to be broken. https://github.com

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Steven Mainor
Thanks for the reply. Those seem like options to consider. The pre-orders for the helios4 seem to be sold out for now. -- Steven Mainor On August 7, 2019 2:53:52 AM EDT, Reco wrote: >On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 01:29:21AM -0400, Steven Mainor wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm looking for advice on how t

Re: Where do I find the Debian CAs?

2019-08-07 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Di, Aug 06, 2019 at 06:57:51 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: Stephan Seitz wrote: I’ve noticed that the Debian mailing list server is offering a certificate as a client: Client CN „clientcerts/bendel.debian.org”, Issuer „Debian SMTP CA” I can’t verify it because I can’t find the CA. There doesn’t

Re: Buster on laptop cannot find Nokia 3 hotspot...

2019-08-07 Thread Andrea Giuliano
On Aug 7, 2019 11:14, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:Quoting Nimrod (2019-08-07 10:42:09) > my (very old) laptop has been working like a charm until I updated > from Stretch to Buster. Among the other, the issue in the subject is > very relevant for me. > > Here is what happens when I turn on wi-f

Re: Buster on laptop cannot find Nokia 3 hotspot...

2019-08-07 Thread Nektarios Katakis
On Wed, 07 Aug 2019 10:42:09 +0200 Nimrod wrote: > Hi, > > my (very old) laptop has been working like a charm until I updated > from Stretch to Buster. Among the other, the issue in the subject is > very relevant for me. > > Here is what happens when I turn on wi-fi hotspot on Nokia 3 > smartph

Re: Buster on laptop cannot find Nokia 3 hotspot...

2019-08-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Nimrod (2019-08-07 10:42:09) > my (very old) laptop has been working like a charm until I updated > from Stretch to Buster. Among the other, the issue in the subject is > very relevant for me. > > Here is what happens when I turn on wi-fi hotspot on Nokia 3 > smartphone (Android up to d

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Reco (2019-08-07 10:53:35) > On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 10:21:25AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > That list is outdated somewhat. But it gave me good ideas back in > > > the day. > > > > Care to elaborate? > > Specifically it gave me an idea to buy that Linksys WRT1200. > Works for me

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Reco
On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 10:21:25AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > That list is outdated somewhat. But it gave me good ideas back in the > > day. > > Care to elaborate? Specifically it gave me an idea to buy that Linksys WRT1200. Works for me since stretch, the only disadvantages are the need

Buster on laptop cannot find Nokia 3 hotspot...

2019-08-07 Thread Nimrod
Hi, my (very old) laptop has been working like a charm until I updated from Stretch to Buster. Among the other, the issue in the subject is very relevant for me. Here is what happens when I turn on wi-fi hotspot on Nokia 3 smartphone (Android up to date): 1) any smartphone or tablet in the famil

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting john doe (2019-08-07 09:33:35) > On 8/7/2019 8:53 AM, Reco wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 01:29:21AM -0400, Steven Mainor wrote: > >> I'm looking for advice on how to build a home server with a primary > >> focus on security. I plan to run nextcloud and a mail server that > >> will se

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Reco (2019-08-07 08:53:52) > On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 01:29:21AM -0400, Steven Mainor wrote: > > I'm looking for advice on how to build a home server with a primary > > focus on security. I plan to run nextcloud and a mail server that > > will serve 3 to 5 people at most. > > > > My requi

Re: Server hardware advice.

2019-08-07 Thread john doe
On 8/7/2019 8:53 AM, Reco wrote: > On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 01:29:21AM -0400, Steven Mainor wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm looking for advice on how to build a home server with a primary focus on >> security. I plan to run nextcloud and a mail server that will serve 3 to 5 >> people at most. >> >> My r

Re: Don't disable recoomends by default

2019-08-07 Thread tomas
On Tue, Aug 06, 2019 at 07:40:25PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Tue 06 Aug 2019 at 09:32:11 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > And now let me get down from my soapbox and hand it over to someone > > else :-) > > We'd rather you stayed there to keep us up to the mark. Anyway, we > like the snaz