Re: An Ounce of Prevention

On Tue, 18 Jun 2019, Andy Smith wrote: What happens if you try to ping something? Like: It is the ping failures that give me the most angst, since I am one of those people who, almost the first thing they'll do, if you sit them down at a computer keyboard, is try to ping somebody. I noticed

Re: An Ounce of Prevention

Hi Bob, On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 09:21:57PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > iface eth0 inet static > address 192.168.1.40 > netmask 255.255.255.0 > gateway 192.168.1.1 > dns-nameserver 8.8.8.8 […] > 2: eth0: mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode > DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 > l

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

I wrote: > In addition to the points made by others, the IPv6 address space is so > large that were you to assign a random IPv6 address to every computer in > existence (including all the embedded systems) the probability of a > collision would be negligible. dsr writes: > ... but only if you were

Re: An Ounce of Prevention

On Tue, 18 Jun 2019, Andy Smith wrote: Possibly your network interface has changed name due to persistent naming? In any case, please can we see the contents of your /etc/network/interfaces file... /etc/network/interfaces -snip- # This file describes the network interfaces available on your

Re: An Ounce of Prevention

Hello, On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 08:39:32PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > So, any hints about networking? Possibly your network interface has changed name due to persistent naming? In any case, please can we see the contents of your /etc/network/interfaces file, and the output of: $ ip link $ ip a

Re: An Ounce of Prevention

Stretch is installed with a shiny new kernel. Stretch doesn't know how to boot up while turning networking "on" in the process. X doesn't work now either. So, any hints about networking? -- What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. H

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

Thanks! On Monday, June 17, 2019 08:34:01 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > namecheap.com, just a few bucks for a 5 year registration of a fixed > address, now on another 5 year renewal: > from my sig: > Genes Web page > gene@coyote:~$ ping geneslinuxbox.net > PING gene

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

On Monday 17 June 2019 07:59:51 pm rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, June 17, 2019 01:05:54 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > > I am lucky, my ISP uses the connecting MAC to translate to a fixed > > ipv4, that has not changed in 6 years. So my web page address in my > > sig has not changed in 6 years

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

On Monday 17 June 2019 02:24:47 pm John Hasler wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > But that opens yet another container of worms. If I arbitrarily > > assign ipv6 local addresses, and later, ipv6 shows up at my side of > > the router, what if I have an address clash with someone on a > > satellite ci

Re: SOLVED was IPv4 v IPv6 discussion that went off the rails.

On Monday 17 June 2019 01:02:54 pm Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 01:00:53PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > sudo apt remove avahi* > > The * needs to be quoted (backslash is one form of quoting) so the > shell won't expand it. I fixed it finally. running totally blind as I could alw

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

On Monday, June 17, 2019 01:05:54 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > I am lucky, my ISP uses the connecting MAC to translate to a fixed ipv4, > that has not changed in 6 years. So my web page address in my sig has > not changed in 6 years even if I swap the router as my standby unit has > the good ones MAC c

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

Hello, On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 04:11:32PM -0400, Robin Hammond wrote: > The size of such a routing table gives me nightmares ! Thank goodness you > have to advertise networks of a reasonably sized prefix length! I wouldn't worry too much about the number of v6 routes. In terms of addressing and r

Re: Problem: Slow Boot -- Hibernation?

hello , On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 04:12:29PM -0500, Dennis Wicks wrote: > First off, I am running Debian Buster/Sid (that's what it says!) and the > kernel is 4.19.0-4-686-pae. 32 bit system, > 4 Gig of memory (3.xx usable!), IDE disks. Our hardware may not be the same > > My boots are getting

Re: Intended question - was {Re: Forgot name of Debian "configuration" {wrong word?} file}

On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 9:06 PM David Wright wrote: > On Sun 16 Jun 2019 at 14:17:21 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > It's rather easy to work around this problem in one of two ways (at > least): > > > > Ways on order of {# users}**N { N < world_population} ;/ > > Eh? > He's claiming that

Re: The use of VMs in experimentation schenarios (Was: Re: Intended question - was...)

On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 3:57 PM Linux-Fan wrote: > > Just a few benefits of VMs I can think of here: > . > * Historically, VMs were sometimes emulated and thus slower than operating >a system "bare-metal". On my systems, installations in VMs are often >faster than installations on th

Re: Reading pdf files

On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 12:11:17PM -0700, Fred wrote: > On 06/15/2019 08:40 AM, k. jantzen wrote: > >On 6/13/19 4:29 PM, k. jantzen wrote: > >> > >>Hello, > >> > >>in general I do not have a problem reading a pdf file with either xpdf > >>or documentviewer. > >> > >>But once in a while I get a pdf

The use of VMs in experimentation schenarios (Was: Re: Intended question - was...)

David Wright writes: On Sun 16 Jun 2019 at 14:17:21 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/16/2019 11:03 AM, David Wright wrote: > > On Sat 15 Jun 2019 at 08:15:24 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > > > On 06/14/2019 06:10 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] > > > My solution is install Grub

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

The size of such a routing table gives me nightmares ! Thank goodness you have to advertise networks of a reasonably sized prefix length! On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 at 16:07, Dan Ritter wrote: > John Hasler wrote: > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > But that opens yet another container of worms. If I arbitra

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

John Hasler wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > But that opens yet another container of worms. If I arbitrarily assign > > ipv6 local addresses, and later, ipv6 shows up at my side of the router, > > what if I have an address clash with someone on a satellite circuit in > > Ulan Bator. How is th

Re: An Ounce of Prevention

On Mon, 17 Jun 2019, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 02:20:33PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: Full disclosure: I have not kept up. Are there resources, wikis, etc, dedicated to Upgrading Debian For Dummies? https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading

Re: An Ounce of Prevention

On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 14:20:33 -0400 Bob Bernstein wrote: > For a change, I want to proceed with a tad of caution > rather than follow Don't RTFM - Wing That Sucker. > > I have an old Jessie running: > > Linux debian.localdomain 3.16.0-7-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.59-1 > (2018-10-03) x86_64 GNU/Li

Re: An Ounce of Prevention

On Mon, 2019-06-17 at 19:52 +0100, Tixy wrote: > On Mon, 2019-06-17 at 19:46 +0100, Tixy wrote: > [...] > > Note, both the above links are for the amd64 CPU architecture, > > there > > are differend notes for other architectures, so if you use another, > > look at the top level page: > > > > https

Re: An Ounce of Prevention

On Mon, 2019-06-17 at 19:46 +0100, Tixy wrote: [...] > Note, both the above links are for the amd64 CPU architecture, there > are differend notes for other architectures, so if you use another, > look at the top level page: > > https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/ Correction, for the Install

Re: An Ounce of Prevention

On Mon, 2019-06-17 at 14:37 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 02:20:33PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > > Full disclosure: I have not kept up. Are there resources, > > wikis, etc, dedicated to Upgrading Debian For Dummies? > > https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/relea

Re: Intended question - was {Re: Forgot name of Debian "configuration" {wrong word?} file}

Le 17/06/2019 à 04:50, Felix Miata a écrit : I recommend learning to use LABELs on all your filesystems. They are massively easier for humans to work with than UUIDs. You get to assign them in accordance with how your brain functions, e.g.: # LABEL=m12P01esp

Re: An Ounce of Prevention

On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 02:20:33PM -0400, Bob Bernstein wrote: > Full disclosure: I have not kept up. Are there resources, > wikis, etc, dedicated to Upgrading Debian For Dummies? https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.html

An Ounce of Prevention

For a change, I want to proceed with a tad of caution rather than follow Don't RTFM - Wing That Sucker. I have an old Jessie running: Linux debian.localdomain 3.16.0-7-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.59-1 (2018-10-03) x86_64 GNU/Linux ...and it has been borne in on me that my kernel needs to be reti

Re: Boot Problem

Le 16/06/2019 à 15:53, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit : I have just installed a new SSD in my 64 bit Stretch platform. When I boot the machine I get the following error: error: file '/boot/grub/i386-pc/normalmod' not found Entering rescue mode .. . . grub rescue>_ Pressing Contro-Alt-Delete reboots

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

Gene Heskett wrote: > But that opens yet another container of worms. If I arbitrarily assign > ipv6 local addresses, and later, ipv6 shows up at my side of the router, > what if I have an address clash with someone on a satellite circuit in > Ulan Bator. How is that resolved, by unroutable add

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

On Monday 17 June 2019 01:00:53 pm Dan Ritter wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 17 June 2019 10:54:19 am Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > I have for eth0, two scope global addresses in a new stretch install > > of an r-pi-3b, one from avahi and one from e/n/i.d/eth0, but the > > instant it goes

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 17 June 2019 01:00:53 pm Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Monday 17 June 2019 10:54:19 am Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > > > I have for eth0, two scope global addresses in a new stretch install > > > of an r-pi-3b, one from avahi and one from e/n/i.d

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

On Monday 17 June 2019 01:00:53 pm Dan Ritter wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 17 June 2019 10:54:19 am Dan Ritter wrote: > > > > I have for eth0, two scope global addresses in a new stretch install > > of an r-pi-3b, one from avahi and one from e/n/i.d/eth0, but the > > instant it goes

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

On Monday 17 June 2019 11:39:12 am Curt Howland wrote: > On Monday 17 June 2019, Gene Heskett was heard > > to say: > > How is that resolved, by unroutable address blocks such > > as 192.168.xx.xx is now? > > Yes, IPv6 does have such allocations. The first 64bits is network > block, then the last

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 01:00:53PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > sudo apt remove avahi* The * needs to be quoted (backslash is one form of quoting) so the shell won't expand it.

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 17 June 2019 10:54:19 am Dan Ritter wrote: > > I have for eth0, two scope global addresses in a new stretch install of > an r-pi-3b, one from avahi and one from e/n/i.d/eth0, but the instant it > goes global, it sends from the avahi address 169.etc. Since thats o

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

On Monday 17 June 2019 10:54:19 am Dan Ritter wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > But that opens yet another container of worms. If I arbitrarily > > assign ipv6 local addresses, and later, ipv6 shows up at my side of > > the router, what if I have an address clash with someone on a > > satellite cir

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

On Monday 17 June 2019 10:54:19 am Dan Ritter wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > But that opens yet another container of worms. If I arbitrarily > > assign ipv6 local addresses, and later, ipv6 shows up at my side of > > the router, what if I have an address clash with someone on a > > satellite cir

Re: Reading pdf files

On 2019-06-17, Sarunas Burdulis wrote: > >..or install Adobe Reader 9.5.5, which is still available on Adobe FTP > > server. Very rarely needed here, but it works. > I wonder about the advisability of running software that hasn't received security updates since 2013.

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Monday 17 June 2019, Gene Heskett was heard to say: > How is that resolved, by unroutable address blocks such > as 192.168.xx.xx is now? Yes, IPv6 does have such allocations. The first 64bits is network block, then the last 64bits are your l

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

Hi. On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 10:38:27AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > But that opens yet another container of worms. If I arbitrarily assign > ipv6 local addresses, and later, ipv6 shows up at my side of the router, > what if I have an address clash with someone on a satellite circuit in

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

Gene Heskett wrote: > But that opens yet another container of worms. If I arbitrarily assign > ipv6 local addresses, and later, ipv6 shows up at my side of the router, > what if I have an address clash with someone on a satellite circuit in > Ulan Bator. How is that resolved, by unroutable add

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

On Monday 17 June 2019 05:59:52 am Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 10:05:11AM +0100, mick crane wrote: > >Without knowing anything about it I'm wondering if I should request > > an IPv6 range from my ISP to use locally. > > You don't need a global IPv6 address allocation in order

Re: Reading pdf files

On 6/15/19 3:11 PM, Fred wrote: > On 06/15/2019 08:40 AM, k. jantzen wrote: >> Hello, >> >> thanks a lot for this interesting discussion. >> >> As stated before I used documentviewer and xpdf. >> >> As a consequence of this discussion I tried evince and mupdf. >> They did not solve the problem. >>

Re: Bonus answers - was [Re: Forgot name of Debian "configuration" {wrong word?} file]

Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/14/2019 06:10 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I can't remember the name of the file which identifies the association > > between a directory (i.e. \home) and which physical partition it is on. > > The file I'm looking for also identifies which partition is used for > >

Re: Boot Problem

In-Reply-To: <5d0649da.40...@sbcglobal.net> On Sun, 16 Jun 2019, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > On 06/16/2019 12:16 PM, bw wrote: > > In-Reply-To: <5d0649da.40...@sbcglobal.net> > > > Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D. says... > > > I have just installed a new SSD in my 64 bit Stretch platform. > > > > > >

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

On 17/06/19 9:09 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 10:05:11AM +0100, mick crane wrote: >> hello, >> I know nothing about IPv6. >> Can somebody point to a good explanation ? > I'd recommend skimming the relevant Wikipedia [1] page. > > Cheers > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 10:05:11AM +0100, mick crane wrote: Without knowing anything about it I'm wondering if I should request an IPv6 range from my ISP to use locally. You don't need a global IPv6 address allocation in order to have local IPv6 addresses. Much like 127.0.0.0/8 (etc.) for IPv4

Re: IPv4 v IPv6

On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 10:05:11AM +0100, mick crane wrote: > hello, > I know nothing about IPv6. > Can somebody point to a good explanation ? I'd recommend skimming the relevant Wikipedia [1] page. Cheers [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6 -- t signature.asc Description: Digital signatur

IPv4 v IPv6

hello, I know nothing about IPv6. Can somebody point to a good explanation ? Without knowing anything about it I'm wondering if I should request an IPv6 range from my ISP to use locally. A network card have IPv4 and IPv6 addresses that are different, not the same address in different notation ?