Re: UEFI beginner questions

2019-06-07 Thread Felix Miata
tuulen composed on 2019-06-07 22:46 (UTC-0400): > Any computer model suggestions? "Model" has a peculiar mix of meanings among PC manufacturers and users. The major brands seem to like confusing users by providing multiple submodels of the same model and calling the submodels models. The submod

Re: UEFI beginner questions

2019-06-07 Thread David Christensen
On 6/7/19 7:46 PM, tuulen wrote: Hi, I am an ordinary GUI and mouse computer user, not a command line user. But I want to get away from both Apple and Microsoft. I spent a lot of time looking into Linux, Unix, BSD, and eventually I discovered Debian. And because I like to know the details of w

Re: UEFI beginner questions

2019-06-07 Thread deloptes
tuulen wrote: > Hi, > I am an ordinary GUI and mouse computer user, not a command line user. > But I want to get away from both Apple and Microsoft.  I spent a lot of > time looking into Linux, Unix, BSD, and eventually I discovered Debian. > And because I like to know the details of what I am d

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-07 Thread deloptes
Gene Heskett wrote: > BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-4.9.0-9-rt-amd64 > root=UUID=0e698024-1cf3-4dbc-812d-10552c01caab ro Gene, I can barely follow your problems with Stretch. I am just amazed how this could be that hard. I was wondering if you possibly copied configurations from your jessie, or is it relat

Re: UEFI beginner questions

2019-06-07 Thread David
On Sat, 8 Jun 2019 at 13:03, tuulen wrote: > > My HP Laptop with Windows 10 does not offer a way to disable the "secure > boot" feature of UEFI Hi, more information from you might produce more useful replies :) If you state the specific model of your laptop and BIOS version, it would create a p

Re: UEFI beginner questions

2019-06-07 Thread Peter Ehlert
HP works, I have 5 HP machines at this time, all running Debian. "secure boot" does not exist on any of them. I do Not use UEFI, only Legacy Boot. Never figured it out or saw an urgent need to use it. BIOS/UEFI menus are all different, even on similar models and makes. there are a number of artic

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 June 2019 10:00:48 pm Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 09:31:42PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >On Friday 07 June 2019 11:58:47 am Michael Stone wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 10:04:09PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> >grepping thru /etc does not seem to find any

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UEFI beginner questions

2019-06-07 Thread tuulen
Hi, I am an ordinary GUI and mouse computer user, not a command line user. But I want to get away from both Apple and Microsoft. I spent a lot of time looking into Linux, Unix, BSD, and eventually I discovered Debian. And because I like to know the details of what I am doing I also discovered th

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-07 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 09:31:42PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 07 June 2019 11:58:47 am Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 10:04:09PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >grepping thru /etc does not seem to find any hits, so I've no clue > whats starting it. Did you happen to tell t

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 June 2019 03:28:57 pm Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 11:48:17AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >Neither can I and this "service" is not a familiar term since this is > > my first expedition into systemd territory. > > Try the systemd.service manual page to find out mo

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 June 2019 03:25:53 pm Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > You know Gene, I used to take the vacuum tubes to Walgreens to test > them in the tube-tester right by the front door ;-) > Gene OM, Google the Crystal Set Society ;-) I had one of those when I was about 10yo. Worked fairly well

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 June 2019 03:21:52 pm Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 5:24 AM Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > You are free to switch back to sysvinit if you wish. To do so you > > need to install sysvinit-core (and remove systemd-sysv, which will > > likely be removed > > by the actio

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 June 2019 11:58:47 am Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 10:04:09PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >grepping thru /etc does not seem to find any hits, so I've no clue > > whats starting it. > > Did you happen to tell the kernel that ttyS0 was a console? (cat > /proc/cmdline

Re: USB digital microscope from Walmart

2019-06-07 Thread Mike McClain
Thank you Mr. Weber. I installed guvcview and now can see the scope's output. Much obliged, Mike On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 05:04:53PM -0400, Bob Weber wrote: > On 6/5/19 3:09 PM, Mike McClain wrote: > > I Have something that may be similar.?? Its Jiusion Digital > Microscope.?? It works with the vi

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-07 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, June 07, 2019 03:28:57 PM Jonathan Dowland wrote: > This is quite an aside, but I was interested in this problem. Wheezy was > released in 2013, and Stretch in 2017, 4 years later. I'm finding it hard > to answer what version of Java was in Wheezy, due to its age, but I think > it's Open

systemd-nspawn (was Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?)

2019-06-07 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 02:21:52PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: I just learned earlier today of systemd-nspawn as a possible containerization solution (my mind boggles). Yes. Systemd's main job is to spawn sub-processes. A container is a process run under various constraints. From what

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 08:28:57PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I'm finding it hard to > answer what version of Java was in Wheezy, due to its age, but I think it's > OpenJDK 7. apt-cache search on a wheezy box shows both 6 and 7.

Re: install debian cann't detect hard disk

2019-06-07 Thread Jacques Toerien
> On 7 Jun 2019, at 18:31, lina wrote: > > Hi, > > I have tried different version of debian and even ubuntu on latest macbook > pro. > > I did the partition exactly follow very carefully based on the online > documents but it still failed to detect the hard disk during > installation. Besid

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-07 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
https://www.midnightscience.net/ On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 2:25 PM Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > You know Gene, I used to take the vacuum tubes to Walgreens to test them > in the tube-tester right by the front door ;-) > Gene OM, Google the Crystal Set Society ;-) > Peace out, 73 de Nick > > On F

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-07 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 11:48:17AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: Neither can I and this "service" is not a familiar term since this is my first expedition into systemd territory. Try the systemd.service manual page to find out more. Drivewire was written in Java, and changes in Java from wheezy

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-07 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
You know Gene, I used to take the vacuum tubes to Walgreens to test them in the tube-tester right by the front door ;-) Gene OM, Google the Crystal Set Society ;-) Peace out, 73 de Nick On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 10:48 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 07 June 2019 06:24:00 am Jonathan Dowland

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-07 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 5:24 AM Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > You are free to switch back to sysvinit if you wish. To do so you need to > install sysvinit-core (and remove systemd-sysv, which will likely be > removed > by the action of installing sysvinit-core). This will change your init > system >

systemd-nspawn + systemd-networkd

2019-06-07 Thread basti
Hello, i have some systemd-nspan containers with systemd-networkd and dhcp. so far so good. For the container I need a static address, I know in can be configured on container side. Is there a way to do this config only on host side? Edit a file to bind mac address and ip for example. Like kvm ne

install debian cann't detect hard disk

2019-06-07 Thread lina
Hi, I have tried different version of debian and even ubuntu on latest macbook pro. I did the partition exactly follow very carefully based on the online documents but it still failed to detect the hard disk during installation. Besides that I even can't run the live version. any suggestions wil

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-07 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 10:04:09PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: grepping thru /etc does not seem to find any hits, so I've no clue whats starting it. Did you happen to tell the kernel that ttyS0 was a console? (cat /proc/cmdline)

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 June 2019 06:24:00 am Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 01:23:45AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >Not getting anyplace so far, but the reboot has given me only one > > agetty running on tty1, which looks like exactly > >what /etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/getty@

Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster

2019-06-07 Thread Paul Sutton
On 07/06/2019 16:27, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 04:23:25PM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote: >> I agree with the naming convention and subsequent names starting with >> the same letter can cause confusion.   However Toy Story 5 (or is it 4) >> is out at some point so that may give us

Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster

2019-06-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 04:23:25PM +0100, Paul Sutton wrote: > I agree with the naming convention and subsequent names starting with > the same letter can cause confusion.   However Toy Story 5 (or is it 4) > is out at some point so that may give us a whole new set of names to > choose from. Toy S

Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster

2019-06-07 Thread Paul Sutton
On 07/06/2019 16:16, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 5:38 AM Jonathan Dowland > wrote: > > > You're quite right. I frequently mix up stretch and squeeze: the > forthcoming > run of Buster, Bullseye and Bookworm will be far more confusing >

Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster

2019-06-07 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 5:38 AM Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > You're quite right. I frequently mix up stretch and squeeze: the > forthcoming > run of Buster, Bullseye and Bookworm will be far more confusing for me :-( > Perhaps it is time to switch to a different movie franchise. LOTR? How could yo

Re: Problem with Mate in Buster on T480s

2019-06-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jun 06, 2019 at 03:51:20PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > What their software *does* do, assuming that you > allow their cookies and script, is try to learn your preferences so that > it can take what it thinks are your interests into account when ordering > search results. This works pretty

Re: Local mirror creation fails using aptly it says HTTP 404 (some packages not found) using mirror 'http://ftp.be.debian.org/debian'

2019-06-07 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2019-06-07 00:11 -0700, Jaikumar Sharma wrote: > I'm using 'aptly' to create a local mirror from > 'http://ftp.be.debian.org/debian' but it fails by throwing the below > error, does it mean that some mirrors are incomplete as it says > packages not found? > I've also tried two to three other de

Re: Local mirror creation fails using aptly it says HTTP 404 (some packages not found) using mirror 'http://ftp.be.debian.org/debian'

2019-06-07 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 6/7/19 10:11 AM, Jaikumar Sharma wrote: > Hi Team, > > I'm using 'aptly' to create a local mirror from > 'http://ftp.be.debian.org/debian' but it fails by throwing the below error, > does it mean that some mirrors are incomplete as it says packages not found? > I've also tried two to three ot

Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster

2019-06-07 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Jun 06, 2019 at 08:00:17AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: Since you say "current" stable, I assume you mean stretch. The support for squeeze (even LTS) ended quite some time ago :-) You're quite right. I frequently mix up stretch and squeeze: the forthcoming run of Buster, Bullseye a

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-07 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 01:23:45AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: Not getting anyplace so far, but the reboot has given me only one agetty running on tty1, which looks like exactly what /etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/getty@tty1.service wants. It also says as a comment: I don't think getty.

Local mirror creation fails using aptly it says HTTP 404 (some packages not found) using mirror 'http://ftp.be.debian.org/debian'

2019-06-07 Thread Jaikumar Sharma
Hi Team, I'm using 'aptly' to create a local mirror from 'http://ftp.be.debian.org/debian' but it fails by throwing the below error, does it mean that some mirrors are incomplete as it says packages not found? I've also tried two to three other debian mirrors too but found the same issue with t

Re: Problem with Mate in Buster on T480s

2019-06-07 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jun 06, 2019 at 04:46:26PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > I wrote: > > Just block Google's cookies and scripts and it works fine [...] > > tomas writes: > > I don't even want to feed them the info that I'm looking > > for something. [...] > Since their ads never result in me buying anything