Re: tftp problem

2019-06-03 Thread john doe
On 6/3/2019 8:39 PM, ghe wrote: > On 6/3/19 11:48 AM, deloptes wrote: > >>> Response, run as root: >>> atftpd: can't bind port :69/udp >>> >> >> why do you have /udp after the port? Check the config > > 1) I don't; atftpd put it there. TFTP is UDP on port 69, isn't it? > Because in the command I g

Re: df shows wrong disk size

2019-06-03 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 03/06/2019 à 19:36, Ross Boylan a écrit : I just noticed the reported journal size is exactly 1G, which would account for the difference: Journal size: 1024M That's assuming the units are bytes; if they are blocks, it's just a crazy value. Sounds interesting. Here on a ~4 GiB ext

Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd)

2019-06-03 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 04:21:18 -0400 Kenneth Parker wrote: > I wish to add one thing to this Discussion. Mention was made, more than > once, that wicd "might" require Systemd. It's not wicd that has the systemd dependency, it's one or a few wicd Recommends that do. Block those from installing and

Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd)

2019-06-03 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 09:43:36 +0200 didier gaumet wrote: > Le 03/06/2019 à 07:23, Patrick Bartek a écrit : > [...] > > The install includes lots of choices [...] So, why not > > init? > > I think a Debian maintainer had answered in the past something like > while not using systemd himself, he ad

Re: df shows wrong disk size [SOLVED]

2019-06-03 Thread Ross Boylan
On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 10:36 AM I wrote: > > I just noticed the reported journal size is exactly 1G, which would > account for the difference: > Journal size: 1024M > That's assuming the units are bytes; if they are blocks, it's just a > crazy value. > > I'll see what the extN experts h

Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster

2019-06-03 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 04:30:17PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: >However, today 3 Jun 2019 we see in [1]tracker.debian.org for openjdk-8 >that  >"[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u222-b04-1 (source) into experimental" >and >"[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u212-b03-2~deb9u1

Re: openjdk-8-jre for buster

2019-06-03 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
However, today 3 Jun 2019 we see in tracker.debian.org for openjdk-8 that "[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u222-b04-1 (source) into experimental" and "[2019-06-03] Accepted openjdk-8 8u212-b03-2~deb9u1 (source amd64 all) into proposed-updates->stable-new, proposed-updates (Moritz Muehlenhoff) (sig

Re: Debian standard installation media packages

2019-06-03 Thread Jacques Toerien
I do apologise in advance, there may be a double post popping up from me.

Re: Debian standard installation media packages

2019-06-03 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Jacques Toerien wrote: > With the standard DVD image, the ‘build-essential’ meta package is not > included According to https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/list-dvd/debian-9.9.0-amd64-DVD-1.list.gz there should be build-essential_12.3_amd64.deb So you would have to be mor

Re: OpenGL forwarding via ssh session: works on jessie, does not work on stretch

2019-06-03 Thread Étienne Mollier
Simon, on 2019-06-02: > The following test setup: > (A) linux machine running ubuntu (Nvidia GPU) > (B) BBB running jessie > (C) BBB running stretch > > I connect from (A) -> (*) by ssh -X x@host > > When I connect from (A) to (B): > > export LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1; glxinfo|head > name of display

Debian 'build-essential' on installation media.

2019-06-03 Thread Jacques Toerien
Hello, I have several machines that require a standard build environment after installation in order to build device drivers, such as NIC and WIFI drivers. These drivers or modules are not included in the free/non-free images (eg. Broadcom) or included as kernel modules, I currently have the so

Debian standard installation media packages

2019-06-03 Thread Jacques Toerien
Hello, I have several machines that require a standard build environment after installation in order to build device drivers, such as NIC and WIFI drivers. These drivers or modules are not included in the free/non-free images (eg. Broadcom), I currently have the source codes for these saved on

Re: paste.debian.net discontinued ?

2019-06-03 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 3/6/19 7:40 pm, Jérôme BATAILLE wrote: > Hi dear debian users. > > Does someone knows if paste.debian.net is discontinued ? It's back so it must have been a temp issue. Cheers A. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iHUEAREIAB0WIQTJAoMHtC6YydLf

Re: tftp problem

2019-06-03 Thread ghe
On 6/3/19 11:48 AM, deloptes wrote: >> Response, run as root: >> atftpd: can't bind port :69/udp >> > > why do you have /udp after the port? Check the config 1) I don't; atftpd put it there. TFTP is UDP on port 69, isn't it? 2) What config? The closest thing to a config I could find was /etc/de

Re: use mailx instead of sendmail in apt-listchanges

2019-06-03 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 3/6/19 5:40 am, Martin T wrote: > What could be the most elegant workaround in this situation? Create > a /usr/sbin/sendmail wrapper script which processes the > "/usr/sbin/sendmail -oi -t" command called by apt_listchanges.py > and sends th

Re: tftp problem

2019-06-03 Thread deloptes
ghe wrote: > Response, run as root: > atftpd: can't bind port :69/udp > why do you have /udp after the port? Check the config > They're just kidding. I think -- I don't know what they mean by 'bind'. > I've saved configs over tftp from my Juniper firewall and my Cisco router. This usually mean

Re: df shows wrong disk size

2019-06-03 Thread Ross Boylan
I just noticed the reported journal size is exactly 1G, which would account for the difference: Journal size: 1024M That's assuming the units are bytes; if they are blocks, it's just a crazy value. I'll see what the extN experts have to say. Ross

Re: df shows wrong disk size

2019-06-03 Thread Ross Boylan
# ls -l /dev/mapper/vgbarley-cache /dev/vgbarley/cache lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Jun 1 17:26 /dev/mapper/vgbarley-cache -> ../dm-19 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Jun 1 17:26 /dev/vgbarley/cache -> ../dm-19 On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 2:32 AM Henning Follmann wrote: > > You cheat ;) > please show that > >

Re: what does trade war mean for chinese linux user?

2019-06-03 Thread Jude DaShiell
Very likely zero impact. On Mon, 3 Jun 2019, Long Wind wrote: > Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2019 07:04:57 > From: Long Wind > To: Debian-user List Debian > Subject: what does trade war mean for chinese linux user? > Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2019 11:05:58 + (UTC) > Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian

Re: tftp problem

2019-06-03 Thread ghe
On 6/3/19 8:08 AM, john doe wrote: > atftpd --verbose=7 --daemon --no-fork --logfile /dev/stdout Response, run as root: atftpd: can't bind port :69/udp They're just kidding. I think -- I don't know what they mean by 'bind'. I've saved configs over tftp from my Juniper firewall and my Cisco route

Re: what does trade war mean for chinese linux user?

2019-06-03 Thread John Hasler
Long Wind writes: > trade war between china and usa is escalating > an early debian distro has flavor for non-us users, because of us > export restriction? Non-us was not a crippled version of Debian for non-us users. It was a Debian repository located outside the USA for all Debian packages cont

Re: Using ISO image of installer DVD as repository - How?

2019-06-03 Thread Brian
On Mon 03 Jun 2019 at 09:03:56 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 06/03/2019 07:33 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2019 at 01:00:36PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > The OP's declared motivation is "self-education" and what is wanted is > > > that it "should just work". > > > > These seem l

Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd)

2019-06-03 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 10:17:00AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > > Now, open your eyes. The real goal of these zealots [...] > Thanks for announcing that people who care what init system they > are running are zealots [...] Folks. Can we just get along? To the one s

Re: tftp problem

2019-06-03 Thread john doe
On 6/3/2019 4:08 PM, john doe wrote: > On 6/3/2019 3:24 PM, ghe wrote: >> On 6/2/19 11:46 PM, john doe wrote: >> >>> I assume that you have restarted the service? >> >> Yup. Several times on multiple computers. No joy. >> >> I haven't, though, tried starting with the options added by hand... >> > >

Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd)

2019-06-03 Thread Dan Ritter
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 09:11:37AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > Almost nobody cares about init systems. > > > > > > Yes, you and your 3 friends care DEEPLY and PASSIONATELY about this. I > > > get that. But there's only 4 of you, not 4000. > >

Re: what does trade war mean for chinese linux user?

2019-06-03 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 6:52 AM Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 06:43:35AM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > >We can see that the US government is more interested in surveillance > and > >propaganda on the internet than anything else. > > Which makes them like every oth

Re: tftp problem

2019-06-03 Thread john doe
On 6/3/2019 3:24 PM, ghe wrote: > On 6/2/19 11:46 PM, john doe wrote: > >> I assume that you have restarted the service? > > Yup. Several times on multiple computers. No joy. > > I haven't, though, tried starting with the options added by hand... > $ atftpd --verbose=7 --daemon --no-fork --logfile

Re: Using ISO image of installer DVD as repository - How?

2019-06-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/03/2019 07:33 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Jun 02, 2019 at 01:00:36PM +0100, Brian wrote: The OP's declared motivation is "self-education" and what is wanted is that it "should just work". These seem like contradictory statements. If everything works out of the box, he won't learn a

Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd)

2019-06-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 09:11:37AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Almost nobody cares about init systems. > > > > Yes, you and your 3 friends care DEEPLY and PASSIONATELY about this. I > > get that. But there's only 4 of you, not 4000. > > Greg -- > > is that the sort of

Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd)

2019-06-03 Thread Dan Ritter
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Jun 02, 2019 at 10:23:25PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > The install includes lots of choices like print server, server or > > desktop system, GUI, laptop utilities, etc. that are "bloat-worthy" and > > can be installed after the main install has completed. I kno

Re: tftp problem

2019-06-03 Thread ghe
On 6/2/19 11:46 PM, john doe wrote: > I assume that you have restarted the service? Yup. Several times on multiple computers. No joy. I haven't, though, tried starting with the options added by hand... -- Glenn English

Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd)

2019-06-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jun 02, 2019 at 10:23:25PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > The install includes lots of choices like print server, server or > desktop system, GUI, laptop utilities, etc. that are "bloat-worthy" and > can be installed after the main install has completed. I know. I used > to do it back in

Re: Using ISO image of installer DVD as repository - How?

2019-06-03 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jun 02, 2019 at 01:00:36PM +0100, Brian wrote: > The OP's declared motivation is "self-education" and what is wanted is > that it "should just work". These seem like contradictory statements. If everything works out of the box, he won't learn as much as he would if he has to fix them.

Re: what does trade war mean for chinese linux user?

2019-06-03 Thread Marek Mosiewicz
I think it means good for open source software. You can not forbid using open software and people will understand that it is somewhat dangerous to depend on corporations for such important issue as software. Best regards, Marek Mosiewicz http://marekmosiewicz.pl W dniu pon, 03.06.2019 o

Re: How to reinstall without loosing configurations?

2019-06-03 Thread songbird
Aldo Maggi wrote: > Last time I've reinstalled was in 2005 after a failure of Jfs (luckily > I had the backup of my files), from them on I've just kept updating and > upgrading. > It is a couple of years, though, that some programs do not work > properly, for instance Firefox (doesn't keep the corr

Re: what does trade war mean for chinese linux user?

2019-06-03 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 06:43:35AM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: >We can see that the US government is more interested in surveillance and >propaganda on the internet than anything else. Which makes them like every other government in that regard? Meet the new boss, same as the old boss

Re: Using ISO image of installer DVD as repository - How?

2019-06-03 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/03/2019 12:07 AM, mick crane wrote: On 2019-06-02 12:47, Richard Owlett wrote: On 06/01/2019 07:08 PM, mick crane wrote: On 2019-05-31 13:20, Richard Owlett wrote: With the first DVD of Debian 9.8.0 I did: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=dvd.iso bs=4M I edited sources.list to read deb file

Re: what does trade war mean for chinese linux user?

2019-06-03 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
We can see that the US government is more interested in surveillance and propaganda on the internet than anything else. On Mon, Jun 3, 2019, 6:30 AM Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 11:04:57AM +, Long Wind wrote: > >trade war between china and usa is escalating > >

Re: what does trade war mean for chinese linux user?

2019-06-03 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 11:04:57AM +, Long Wind wrote: >trade war between china and usa is escalating >an early debian distro has flavor for non-us users, because of us export >restriction? how does usa enforce the law on Internet? >it's not easy for me to use mail and i may not

Re: paste.debian.net discontinued ?

2019-06-03 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Jun 03, 2019 at 11:40:34AM +0200, Jérôme BATAILLE wrote: >Hi dear debian users. > >Does someone knows if paste.debian.net is discontinued ? > >Thanks for your replies. It could just be that the service is down temporarily. The debian.net domain is available to Debian develop

Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd)

2019-06-03 Thread Dan Ritter
didier gaumet wrote: > Le 03/06/2019 à 07:23, Patrick Bartek a écrit : > [...] > > The install includes lots of choices [...] So, why not > > init? > > I think a Debian maintainer had answered in the past something like > while not using systemd himself, he admitted the perceived percentage of >

Re: Prompt restart services during pkg upgrades preseed file

2019-06-03 Thread john doe
On 6/3/2019 11:40 AM, Brian wrote: > On Mon 03 Jun 2019 at 09:58:38 +0200, john doe wrote: > >> Hi, while installing Buster using a preseed file I'm getting the following: >> >> Select and install software >> Configuring libpam0g:amd64 >> -- >> >> There are services installe

Re: df shows wrong disk size

2019-06-03 Thread Henning Follmann
On Sat, Jun 01, 2019 at 02:46:00PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: > # df -B4096 /var/local/cache/ > Filesystem 4K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on > /dev/mapper/vgbarley-cache778160 191713529923 27% /var/local/cache > > # e2fsck -v /dev/vgbarley/cache > e2fsck 1.44.5 (15

Re: use mailx instead of sendmail in apt-listchanges

2019-06-03 Thread Dan Ritter
Martin T wrote: > Hi, > > I have apt-listchanges installed and registered in apt system: > > # apt-config dump | grep apt-listchanges > DPkg::Pre-Install-Pkgs:: "/usr/bin/apt-listchanges --apt || test $? -lt 10"; > DPkg::Tools::Options::/usr/bin/apt-listchanges ""; > DPkg::Tools::Options::/usr/b

paste.debian.net discontinued ?

2019-06-03 Thread Jérôme BATAILLE
Hi dear debian users. Does someone knows if paste.debian.net is discontinued ? Thanks for your replies.

Re: Prompt restart services during pkg upgrades preseed file

2019-06-03 Thread Brian
On Mon 03 Jun 2019 at 09:58:38 +0200, john doe wrote: > Hi, while installing Buster using a preseed file I'm getting the following: > > Select and install software > Configuring libpam0g:amd64 > -- > > There are services installed on your system which need to be restarted

Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd)

2019-06-03 Thread Kenneth Parker
I wish to add one thing to this Discussion. Mention was made, more than once, that wicd "might" require Systemd. Besides using Debian Stretch on one system (where I am happily learning Systemd), I use Devuan Ascii (on an older machine with limited ram). This is "official notification" that wicd

Re: Using ISO image of installer DVD as repository - How?

2019-06-03 Thread Brian
On Sun 02 Jun 2019 at 18:28:24 +0100, Brian wrote: > A resumé of parts of the first few messages in this thread might focus > minds. It started with > > > I edited sources.list to read > > deb file:///home/richard/dvd.iso stretch main contrib trusted=yes > > It was pointed out by Dan Ritte

Re: lightweight wifi UI (Was: Insidious systemd)

2019-06-03 Thread didier gaumet
Le 03/06/2019 à 07:23, Patrick Bartek a écrit : [...] > The install includes lots of choices [...] So, why not > init? I think a Debian maintainer had answered in the past something like while not using systemd himself, he admitted the perceived percentage of Debian anti-systemd users was not so i

Prompt restart services during pkg upgrades preseed file

2019-06-03 Thread john doe
Hi, while installing Buster using a preseed file I'm getting the following: Select and install software Configuring libpam0g:amd64 -- There are services installed on your system which need to be restarted when certain libraries, such as libpam, libc, and libssl, are upgrad