Hi.
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 12:16:38AM +, Long Wind wrote:
> Thanks!
>
> my adapter is Asus WL-167g USB WLAN Adapter
> i don't understand why change directional from omni to uni
Because if it's the noise/signal ratio that's the trouble this should
improve it.
> the adapter is prob
Hi.
On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 11:44:42AM +1200, Richard Hector wrote:
> On 09/08/18 19:00, Reco wrote:
> > Also, consider wrapping a sheet of tin foil around USB WiFi dongle,
> > transforming stock omni-directional antenna to uni-directional.
>
> Uni-directional or no-directional?
>
> I'd
On 2018-08-08 12:13 AM, Gary Dale wrote:
On 2018-08-07 07:13 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Mon, Aug 06, 2018 at 03:03:57PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
I'm not even sure where to report this problem since I can't
identify a specific package that is causing it. However since Gnome
Flashback seems t
On Thu 09 Aug 2018 at 18:05:41 (+), tech wrote:
>
> ... and why not ?
>
>
> As an example, with a bugzilla, you dont have to dig in n*thousands of
> "unread" mails,. You can organized, have a clear view with a dashboard... and
> so on.
>
> And bugzilla is just one possibility.
>
>
> Sin
On 09/08/18 19:00, Reco wrote:
> Also, consider wrapping a sheet of tin foil around USB WiFi dongle,
> transforming stock omni-directional antenna to uni-directional.
Uni-directional or no-directional?
I'd have thought you want to be fairly specific and precise with your
'wrapping' to get a benef
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 05:39:36PM +, tech wrote:
> Should'nt be time to move away from an old mail-listing to something more
> modern like a bugzilla or else ???
No. This is an absolutely terrible idea. Here's why mailing lists
are (along with Usenet newsgroups) vastly superior to web-base
Greg Wooledge wrote:
> Whoever suggested that is using outdated information. Install ntp and
> not ntpdate.
I did not suggested this but I also use ntpdate. Especially on laptop that
is not connected to the network all the time it does not make sense, as you
get those nasty mails that ntp server
tech wrote:
> as i dont want to troll the debian-list, and as i already received several
> mails ( a first for me ) saying i am a dumbass, a stupid eager young
> for the audience, i will stop the broadcast of bad words here.
>
>
> i need to go to the post office to send a letter, so i will
songbird wrote:
> the debian processes are done via the kernel
> team and so you can also follow that mailing list
> (i read via gmane and usenet).
And you can always do "make deb-pkg" on the source and produce a ready for
use debian package
regards
The only clock in my house that stays perfectly on time without NTP is my
akai s5000 sampler. It runs on a 386 ;)
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 5:39 PM Fred wrote:
> On 08/09/2018 12:42 PM, Brian wrote:
> > On Thu 09 Aug 2018 at 20:39:16 +0200, john doe wrote:
> >
> >> On 8/9/2018 5:00 PM, Greg Wooledg
On 08/09/2018 12:42 PM, Brian wrote:
On Thu 09 Aug 2018 at 20:39:16 +0200, john doe wrote:
On 8/9/2018 5:00 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 10:49:52AM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:
On Thu, 2018-08-09 at 10:35 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
Whoever suggested that is using outdated
tech writes:
> Should'nt be time to move away from an old mail-listing to something
> more modern like a bugzilla or else ???
It's 2018. Shouldn't we move away from an old “keyboard” to something
mroe modern like a data-glove?
Less sarcastically: You have said nothing that demonstrates why a
ma
moin moin,
I'm giving a presentation on /etc/alternatives in a few hours.
If you use the alternatives system a lot and would like to spend a few
minutes reviewing my talk for me, please see the links below.
Any use cases or cool functionality that I've missed?
Anything I've gotten completely w
On Thu 09 Aug 2018 at 20:39:16 +0200, john doe wrote:
> On 8/9/2018 5:00 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 10:49:52AM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2018-08-09 at 10:35 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > > Whoever suggested that is using outdated information. Install
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 05:39:36PM +, tech wrote:
Should'nt be time to move away from an old mail-listing to
something more modern like a bugzilla or else ???
On 8/9/18, 10:47 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
No.
What? A list server isn't good enough for you? It's good enough for the
Tomcat
On 08/09/2018 01:39 PM, tech wrote:
Should'nt be time to move away from an old mail-listing to something
more modern like a bugzilla or else ???
Why?? There already are plenty of such sites, you need only pick and
choose. I like it here as I don't have to read a "me too!" message with
a meg
On 08/09/2018 05:10 AM, Joe wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2018 08:14:44 +0200
deloptes wrote:
Regarding the sound - I never had a problem in the past 12+ years.
You are fortunate. I went though a period where the assignments for
sound card 0 and 1 would randomly flip, every few weeks or months. I
On 8/9/2018 5:00 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 10:49:52AM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:
On Thu, 2018-08-09 at 10:35 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
Whoever suggested that is using outdated information. Install ntp
Why not openntpd?
https://packages.debian.org/stretch/openntpd
On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 18:08:46 +
tech wrote:
Hello tech,
>my spelling VS was correct. Following your corrected spelling, i should
>wrotte: mailing list is NOT the future...but the past.
I was being provocative, just as your OP was. Like I said, nobody
requires you to use Mailing Lists.
The w
as i dont want to troll the debian-list, and as i already received several
mails ( a first for me ) saying i am a dumbass, a stupid eager young for
the audience, i will stop the broadcast of bad words here.
i need to go to the post office to send a letter, so i will take my horse ...
as i
my spelling VS was correct. Following your corrected spelling, i should wrotte:
mailing list is NOT the future...but the past.
De : Brad Rogers
Envoyé : jeudi 9 août 2018 20:04:56
À : Debian Users ML
Objet : Re: mailing list is the future (corrected spelling mi
Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
...
> I did finally figuratively "run away" while very literally "shrieking"
> one day because there were SO MANY upgrades. I wasn't able to do both
> that and the advocacy that MUST be done from behind this keyboard
> right now. That just doesn't work on dialup... unfortuna
... and why not ?
As an example, with a bugzilla, you dont have to dig in n*thousands of "unread"
mails,. You can organized, have a clear view with a dashboard... and so on.
And bugzilla is just one possibility.
Since augusth 1st:
I received around 12 familly mails, 62 pro-mails, 147 spam/p
On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 17:39:36 +
tech wrote:
Hello tech,
>modern like a bugzilla or else ???
The wheel has been around several thousand years. Perhaps we should
replace that too.
You don't like MLs; Nobody is forcing you to use them.
--
Regards _
/ ) "The blindingly o
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 09:36:33AM -0700, Fred wrote:
I think you may be right. It seems a stupid response from ntpdate
since I asked the time from the server. So, ntpdate maybe isn't what
I should be using.
ntpdate isn't a tool to tell you the time, it's a tool to establish the
offset betw
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 11:54:54AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 04:15:36PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote:
Additionally, from http://doc.ntp.org/current-stable/ntpq.html#rv (rv allows
one to read the offset for a particular association directly), "Note that
time values are repr
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 05:39:36PM +, tech wrote:
> Should'nt be time to move away from an old mail-listing to something more
> modern like a bugzilla or else ???
No.
The way most people keep up to date on network news is through subscription to
a number of mail reflectors (also known as mail exploders). Mail reflectors are
special electronic mailboxes which, when they receive a message, resend it to a
list of other mailboxes. This in effect creates a discuss
On Thursday 09 August 2018 12:26:24 Martin wrote:
> Am 09.08.2018 um 18:15 schrieb Gene Heskett:
> > On Thursday 09 August 2018 11:16:27 Martin wrote:
> >> Am 09.08.2018 um 17:12 schrieb Nicolas George:
> >>> Martin (2018-08-09):
> First of: The documentation sucks!
> >>>
> >>> Care to elabor
Greg Wooledge (2018-08-09):
> Not very useful. OK, the man page also says, "SEE ALSO
> /usr/share/doc/ntp-doc/html/ntpq.html for the full documentation."
^^^
>
> Of course, that file does not exist.
>
> One might try to jump through hoops to try to find out how to obtain
> t
On 2018-08-09 11:54 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 04:15:36PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote:
> > Additionally, from
> > http://doc.ntp.org/current-stable/ntpq.html#rv (rv allows
> > one to read the offset for a particular association
> > directly), "Note that time values are repr
-Original Message-
> From: Brian
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: 08/09/18 11:25
> Subject: Re: Brother or Canon; not both
>
> On Thu 09 Aug 2018 at 11:10:44 +0100, Brian wrote:
>
> > On Wed 08 Aug 2018 at 19:12:09 -0500, Allen Hoover wrote:
> >
> > > Ever since upgradi
Fred (2018-08-09):
> I think you may be right. It seems a stupid response from ntpdate since I
> asked the time from the server.
It gave you the information.
> So, ntpdate maybe isn't what I should be
> using.
That is what many people have just told you.
> Ther
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 09:36:33AM -0700, Fred wrote:
> I don't
> want a service that keeps banging on the server. Once a day seems
> reasonable to me.
It's not.
On 08/09/2018 07:42 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
Fred (2018-08-09):
Someone complained off list about the timestamp in my emails being off.
Being a hardware person I think hardware should work properly and clocks
should keep accurate time. So I installed ntpdate as suggested but it is
not active y
Am 09.08.2018 um 18:15 schrieb Gene Heskett:
> On Thursday 09 August 2018 11:16:27 Martin wrote:
>
>> Am 09.08.2018 um 17:12 schrieb Nicolas George:
>>> Martin (2018-08-09):
First of: The documentation sucks!
>>>
>>> Care to elaborate?
>>>
Do you know if this software can be tricked in a
On Thursday 09 August 2018 11:16:27 Martin wrote:
> Am 09.08.2018 um 17:12 schrieb Nicolas George:
> > Martin (2018-08-09):
> >> First of: The documentation sucks!
> >
> > Care to elaborate?
> >
> >> Do you know if this software can be tricked in a way,
> >
> > I suggest you try to use software in
> I thought I saw a "not" here, hence the strange wording of my answer.
Cheers ;-)
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 04:15:36PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote:
> Additionally, from http://doc.ntp.org/current-stable/ntpq.html#rv (rv allows
> one to read the offset for a particular association directly), "Note that
> time values are represented in milliseconds and frequency values in
> parts-per-
Martin (2018-08-09):
> >> that it does serve ntp in my local network?
^
I thought I saw a "not" here, hence the strange wording of my answer.
Sorry.
> I would like to.
> As I tried, it did not.
timesyncd is not meant for that. It is a client, not a server. You were
right to use
On Thu 09 Aug 2018 at 11:10:44 +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Wed 08 Aug 2018 at 19:12:09 -0500, Allen Hoover wrote:
>
> > Ever since upgrading some customized Debian 64bit systems to Debian 8, I've
> > had trouble with the Canon UFRII printer drivers. I've now been
> > testing this issue on a vanilla
Am 09.08.2018 um 17:12 schrieb Nicolas George:
> Martin (2018-08-09):
>> First of: The documentation sucks!
>
> Care to elaborate?
>
>> Do you know if this software can be tricked in a way,
>
> I suggest you try to use software instead of tricking it. It works
> better that way.
Granted.
>> th
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 10:35:23AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 07:19:46AM -0700, Fred wrote:
So I installed ntpdate as suggested but it is
not active yet.
Whoever suggested that is using outdated information. Install ntp and
not ntpdate.
The current versions of the nt
Martin (2018-08-09):
> First of: The documentation sucks!
Care to elaborate?
> Do you know if this software can be tricked in a way,
I suggest you try to use software instead of tricking it. It works
better that way.
> that it does serve ntp in my local network?
Do you have any evidence that i
On Thursday 09 August 2018 10:35:23 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 07:19:46AM -0700, Fred wrote:
> > So I installed ntpdate as suggested but it is
> > not active yet.
>
> Whoever suggested that is using outdated information. Install ntp and
> not ntpdate.
>
+1
> The current versi
> Nowadays, unless you have religions objections, you should just enable
> systemd-timesyncd, it is the most lightweight and transparent way of
> enabling network time synchronization with nowadays Debian.
First of: The documentation sucks!
Do you know if this software can be tricked in a way, t
On Thu, 2018-08-09 at 11:00 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 10:49:52AM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> > On Thu, 2018-08-09 at 10:35 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > Whoever suggested that is using outdated information. Install
> > > ntp
> >
> >
> > Why not openntpd?
> >
>
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 10:49:52AM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-08-09 at 10:35 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > Whoever suggested that is using outdated information. Install ntp
>
>
> Why not openntpd?
>
> https://packages.debian.org/stretch/openntpd
Sure, whatever you prefer. Th
On Thu, 2018-08-09 at 10:35 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> Whoever suggested that is using outdated information. Install ntp
Why not openntpd?
https://packages.debian.org/stretch/openntpd
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On Thursday 09 August 2018 10:19:46 Fred wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Someone complained off list about the timestamp in my emails being
> off. Being a hardware person I think hardware should work properly and
> clocks should keep accurate time. So I installed ntpdate as suggested
> but it is not active yet.
Fred (2018-08-09):
> Someone complained off list about the timestamp in my emails being off.
> Being a hardware person I think hardware should work properly and clocks
> should keep accurate time. So I installed ntpdate as suggested but it is
> not active yet.
Nowadays, unless you have religions
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 07:19:46AM -0700, Fred wrote:
Someone complained off list about the timestamp in my emails being
off. Being a hardware person I think hardware should work properly
and clocks should keep accurate time. So I installed ntpdate as
suggested but it is not active yet.
If
Hi Fred,
your hardware clock may be off -> man hwclock.
You can sysc it to your system time with 'hwclock -w'. hwclock requires root
powers.
Am 09.08.2018 um 16:19 schrieb Fred:
> Hi,
>
> Someone complained off list about the timestamp in my emails being off.
> Being a hardware person I think
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 07:19:46AM -0700, Fred wrote:
> So I installed ntpdate as suggested but it is
> not active yet.
Whoever suggested that is using outdated information. Install ntp and
not ntpdate.
The current versions of the ntp package (since, like, Debian 6.x I think)
incorporate the one
Hi,
Someone complained off list about the timestamp in my emails being off.
Being a hardware person I think hardware should work properly and clocks
should keep accurate time. So I installed ntpdate as suggested but it
is not active yet.
If I ask google what time it is in Mesa AZ. the resp
mick crane wrote:
> Am I right in thinking that the kernel is a single codebase agreed
> between all the kernel developers at any particular date and that Linux
> distributions can take bits out from that for their release but
> shouldn't add bespoke stuff that isn't agreed by everybody else ?
> On Wed 08 Aug 2018 at 19:12:09 -0500, Allen Hoover wrote:
>
> > Ever since upgrading some customized Debian 64bit systems to Debian 8, I've
> > had trouble with the Canon UFRII printer drivers. I've now been
> > testing this issue on a vanilla Debian 8, and Debian 9 system with the
> > same i
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On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 02:01:49PM +, davidson wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Aug 2018, davidson wrote:
>
> >It seems that regardless of my locale (LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8,
> >LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8, etc), messages from GNU screen are
> >always in Englis
On Thu, 9 Aug 2018, davidson wrote:
It seems that regardless of my locale (LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8,
LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8, etc), messages from GNU screen are
always in English.
Has anyone else noticed this, or am I doing something wrong?
For taking the time to explain what is going on h
t; | mainline: 4.18-rc8 | stable: 4.17.14 | longterm: 4.14.62 |
> longterm: 4.9.119 | longterm: 4.4.147 | longterm: 3.18.118 [EOL] |
> longterm: 3.16.57 | linux-next: next-20180809
>
> I'm going update my CV now: "Accomplished mind reader"
:)
Reco
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 01:17:29PM +, davidson wrote:
It seems that regardless of my locale (LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8,
LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8, etc), messages from GNU screen are
always in English.
Has anyone else noticed this, or am I doing something wrong?
For the record, the following
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 01:17:29PM +, davidson wrote:
> It seems that regardless of my locale (LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8,
> LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8, etc), messages from GNU screen are
> always in English.
That's because nobody has translated screen into other languages.
I don't even know whe
It seems that regardless of my locale (LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8,
LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8, etc), messages from GNU screen are
always in English.
Has anyone else noticed this, or am I doing something wrong?
For the record, the following briefly illustrates what I do (for
example):
$ export LA
On 8/9/18, deloptes wrote:
> Joe wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 09 Aug 2018 08:14:44 +0200
>> deloptes wrote:
>>
>>> Joe wrote:
>>>
>>> > Having said that, I don't think I've had more sound problems with my
>>> > sid workstations than with my stable server. Sound is generally a
>>> > pig on Linux, as the so
list of downloads on the front page:
| mainline: 4.18-rc8
| stable: 4.17.14
| longterm: 4.14.62
| longterm: 4.9.119
| longterm: 4.4.147
| longterm: 3.18.118 [EOL]
| longterm: 3.16.57
| linux-next: next-20180809
I'm going update my CV now: "Accomplished mind reade
Joe wrote:
> It's a dim memory now, but I've certainly been there and done that.
>
> There's an indirection somewhere else that wasn't stable. It's probably
> ancient history now.
no it is not ancient history but it improved and still in some cases you
need to put index value. I guess you did no
Joe wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Aug 2018 08:14:44 +0200
> deloptes wrote:
>
>> Joe wrote:
>>
>> > Having said that, I don't think I've had more sound problems with my
>> > sid workstations than with my stable server. Sound is generally a
>> > pig on Linux, as the software base seems to change every few
On Wed 08 Aug 2018 at 19:12:09 -0500, Allen Hoover wrote:
> Ever since upgrading some customized Debian 64bit systems to Debian 8, I've
> had trouble with the Canon UFRII printer drivers. I've now been
> testing this issue on a vanilla Debian 8, and Debian 9 system with the
> same issues on both.
On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 11:24:18 +0200
Nemeth Gyorgy wrote:
> 2018-08-09 11:10 keltezéssel, Joe írta:
> > You are fortunate. I went though a period where the assignments for
> > sound card 0 and 1 would randomly flip, every few weeks or months. I
> > didn't find whatever magical incantation would prev
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 08:15:42AM +0100, mick crane wrote:
Am I right in thinking that the kernel is a single codebase agreed
between all the kernel developers at any particular date and that
Linux distributions can take bits out from that for their release but
shouldn't add bespoke stuff that
2018-08-09 11:10 keltezéssel, Joe írta:
> You are fortunate. I went though a period where the assignments for
> sound card 0 and 1 would randomly flip, every few weeks or months. I
> didn't find whatever magical incantation would prevent this, if it
> existed.
module alias can help. I suppose the
Hi.
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 08:15:42AM +0100, mick crane wrote:
> Am I right in thinking that the kernel is a single codebase agreed between
> all the kernel developers at any particular date
No. As [1] shows us, there's a mainline branch (aka to-be-released
kernel), stable branch (aka re
On Thu, 09 Aug 2018 08:14:44 +0200
deloptes wrote:
> Joe wrote:
>
> > Having said that, I don't think I've had more sound problems with my
> > sid workstations than with my stable server. Sound is generally a
> > pig on Linux, as the software base seems to change every few years,
> > and until r
Thank Reco!
link quality of usb adapter in question seems good, according to wavemon
there might be other problem, that cause it to seem unstable
On Thursday, August 9, 2018, 3:00:45 PM GMT+8, Reco
wrote:
Hi.
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 12:29:31AM +, Long Wind wrote:
> i have a U
Am I right in thinking that the kernel is a single codebase agreed
between all the kernel developers at any particular date and that Linux
distributions can take bits out from that for their release but
shouldn't add bespoke stuff that isn't agreed by everybody else ?
just wondering how that w
Hi.
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 12:29:31AM +, Long Wind wrote:
> i have a USB wireless card, it doesn't seem stable, sometimes it's slow
> i even suspect changing USB connector can affect network speed
>
> which program can show connection quality?
These two should work with any network
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