Re: Debian got too fat?

2018-07-15 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi Reco, On 7/15/18 1:44 PM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 12:16:20PM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: Hi folks, would you mind to take a look at https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=888743 The fix is pretty easy. But does not address all the cornercases,

Re: Regarding Installation over Windows 10

2018-07-15 Thread john doe
On 7/16/2018 4:22 AM, Vijay Sehgal wrote: Thanks Ben for replying. I know the architecture of my machine which is 64-bit(amd) But check this link - https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/bt-dvd/ I am following this. Here when you scroll down, you will find 3 iso files. I have downloa

Re: Compiler segfault when building the kernel

2018-07-15 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 20:41:25 +0300 Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 11:57:55AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 10:45:17 +0300 > > Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 07:58:12AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > > > Hi, ... > > > > line "root_cmd = fakeroot")

apache 2.4 envvars ? Deb 9.4

2018-07-15 Thread Dave
when i run apache2, i get an error APACHE_PID_FILE missspelled or unknown var. and how do i include the "envvars" in the apache2.conf file ? if i remove this varible i get no error but, i get errors when i try to install php saying missing "envvars /var/run/apache2/pid.pid" the envvars file

Re: Regarding Installation over Windows 10

2018-07-15 Thread Vijay Sehgal
Thanks Ben for replying. I know the architecture of my machine which is 64-bit(amd) But check this link - https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/bt-dvd/ I am following this. Here when you scroll down, you will find 3 iso files. I have downloaded the first one. My question is do i have

Re: Regarding Installation over Windows 10

2018-07-15 Thread Ben Finney
Vijay Sehgal writes: > I want to install Linux on my machine. Welcome! Thank you for choosing to install Debian. > Can anyone guide me via walkthrough to how to do that? The installation guide is at https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual>, you can choose one for your language. >

Regarding Installation over Windows 10

2018-07-15 Thread Vijay Sehgal
Hey, I am writing in reference to the above stated subject. I want to install Linux on my machine. Can anyone guide me via walkthrough to how to do that? I have downloaded one iso file of 3.38 GB but there are 2 more in 64bit without internet installation. Do i have to install other 2 iso files a

Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?]

2018-07-15 Thread John Crawley
On 2018-07-16 04:33, Richard Owlett wrote: Can I a Debian user opt to not install "LSB" without ill effects? Some ...er, many Debian packages depend on lsb-base. 'apt-cache rdepends lsb-base' for a long list. -- John

Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?]

2018-07-15 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 02:33:02PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: [...] > Is it of any use to Debian _users_ who *ONLY* use official Debian > repositories? It is useful for someone who wants to write a program which shall run on an LSB-compliant syste

Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?]

2018-07-15 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 02:33:02PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > What is your suggestion here? Apply the patch I provided (or maybe a > > > better one), or get rid of lsb-base completely? > > > > Aim to ditch lsb-base in the long run. > > For here and now I'd used something like

Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?]

2018-07-15 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/15/2018 06:44 AM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 12:16:20PM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: Hi folks, would you mind to take a look at https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=888743 The fix is pretty easy. But does not address all the cornercases, IMO.

Re: Warning: Debian/testing full-upgrade removes security packages!

2018-07-15 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 01:02:48PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 06:07:32PM +0200, Hans wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 15. Juli 2018, 17:43:47 CEST schrieb Henrique de Moraes > > Holschuh: > > > > Maybe I was not clear enough. I did not mourn,. that packages are

Re: Warning: Debian/testing full-upgrade removes security packages!

2018-07-15 Thread John Hasler
Henrique de Moraes Hols writes: > Same goes for dist-upgrade. dist-upgrade/full-upgrade will more > aggressively attempt to remove packages than the alternatives > safe-upgrade and upgrade. I always do "upgrade" and look at what did not get upgraded and why. I then sometimes follow with "full-up

Re: Warning: Debian/testing full-upgrade removes security packages!

2018-07-15 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 06:07:32PM +0200, Hans wrote: > Am Sonntag, 15. Juli 2018, 17:43:47 CEST schrieb Henrique de Moraes Holschuh: > > Maybe I was not clear enough. I did not mourn,. that packages are > dienstalled, > this may happen in testing. I mourned,m that almost ALL SECURITY related >

Re: Thunderbird always launching 2 copies.

2018-07-15 Thread Curt
On 2018-07-15, Octopus Octopus wrote: > > which thunderbird produces > > /usr/bin/thunderbird > > launching it through the terminal does not alter the results. > *I have disabled all addons and seems to have solved the problem. *I > might go through some further testing to see if it relates to

Re: Warning: Debian/testing full-upgrade removes security packages!

2018-07-15 Thread Hans
Am Sonntag, 15. Juli 2018, 17:43:47 CEST schrieb Henrique de Moraes Holschuh: Maybe I was not clear enough. I did not mourn,. that packages are dienstalled, this may happen in testing. I mourned,m that almost ALL SECURITY related packages are deinstalled. And I would have nothing said, if it wou

Re: Warning: Debian/testing full-upgrade removes security packages!

2018-07-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 15 Jul 2018, The Wanderer wrote: > >> be warned: Wheh you do apt full-upgrade, > > > > You're in testing: what are you "full-upgrade"-ing to and why? > > To testing, of course. Eh, I believe the meant that as "why are you using full-upgrade instead of safe-upgrade or upgrade" (depending

Re: Stretch 9.5 amd64 kernel panic

2018-07-15 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 08:48:18PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: > I captured a little bit of what was written to the xen console > when the kernel panics which is shown below. > > Anyone else seen this? Seems the new point release kernel broke Xen PV:

Re: Thunderbird always launching 2 copies.

2018-07-15 Thread Octopus Octopus
which thunderbird produces /usr/bin/thunderbird launching it through the terminal does not alter the results. *I have disabled all addons and seems to have solved the problem. *I might go through some further testing to see if it relates to xul-ext-google-tasks-sync or xul-ext-firetray since

Re: HP ProLiant ML350p Gen8 Hot Plug 6 LFF - Is Jessie or Stretch ok?

2018-07-15 Thread Dan Ritter
On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 05:28:47PM +0100, Bernie Elbourn wrote: > Hi > > I have one of these running Wheezy - been stable for years without issue. It > also has original firmware etc. Yep - needs updating > > Has anyone got one of these running Jessie, or Stretch OK ... Is/was there > any pa

Re: Warning: Debian/testing full-upgrade removes security packages!

2018-07-15 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-07-15 at 10:09, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 15 Jul 2018 at 07:49:36 (+0200), Hans wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> be warned: Wheh you do apt full-upgrade, > > You're in testing: what are you "full-upgrade"-ing to and why? To testing, of course. Just because you're running testing doesn't

Re: Warning: Debian/testing full-upgrade removes security packages!

2018-07-15 Thread David Wright
On Sun 15 Jul 2018 at 07:49:36 (+0200), Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > be warned: Wheh you do apt full-upgrade, You're in testing: what are you "full-upgrade"-ing to and why? > then most security tools, we rely on, > are deinstallesd. These are rkhunter, chrootkit, autopsy, tripwire, > needrestar

[Xen]: Heads UP: kernel from linux-image-4.9.0-7-amd64 might not boot on Xen

2018-07-15 Thread Markus Schönhaber
Hi, if you are running Debian on Xen you should keep your eyes open when upgrading the kernel. For me, the kernel 4.9.110-1 from the linux-image-4.9.0-7-amd64 package wouldn't boot as a DomU kernel. As I've read, it won't work as a Dom0 kernel either (I didn't check that, though). https://bugs.de

Re: HP ProLiant ML350p Gen8 Hot Plug 6 LFF - Is Jessie or Stretch ok?

2018-07-15 Thread rv riveravaldez
On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 1:28 PM, Bernie Elbourn wrote: > Hi > > I have one of these running Wheezy - been stable for years without issue. It > also has original firmware etc. Yep - needs updating > > Has anyone got one of these running Jessie, or Stretch OK ... Is/was there > any pain? > > Deb

Re: [SOLVED] Re: apt-get update hangs forever

2018-07-15 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 7/15/18, deloptes wrote: > Carl Fink wrote: > >> May we assume you tried switching repos? Because the only times I've >> seen that, a particular repository was unreachable. > > no, I have not switched anything, but your answer helped me rewind the tape > back and yes I have added one source (Si

Re: Warning: Debian/testing full-upgrade removes security packages!

2018-07-15 Thread likcoras
On 07/15/2018 02:49 PM, Hans wrote: > be warned: Wheh you do apt full-upgrade, then most security tools, we rely > on, > are deinstallesd. These are rkhunter, chrootkit, autopsy, tripwire, > needrestart and tiger. Also forensics-full and forensics-all are deinstalled > (however, this might have

Re: Debian got too fat?

2018-07-15 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 12:16:20PM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > Hi folks, > > would you mind to take a look at > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=888743 > > The fix is pretty easy. But does not address all the cornercases, IMO. Consider, for instance, an L

[SOLVED] Re: apt-get update hangs forever

2018-07-15 Thread deloptes
Carl Fink wrote: > May we assume you tried switching repos? Because the only times I've > seen that, a particular repository was unreachable. no, I have not switched anything, but your answer helped me rewind the tape back and yes I have added one source (Signal) by myself and the stupid skype pa

Re: apt-get update hangs forever

2018-07-15 Thread Carl Fink
On 07/15/2018 06:27 AM, deloptes wrote: Hi on one of my machines apt-get update hangs forever. Get:32 http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian stretch/non-free i386 Packages [69.7 kB] Get:33 http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian stretch/non-free Translation-en [80.6 kB] 0% [Working] What can I do to understa

Re: Thunderbird always launching 2 copies.

2018-07-15 Thread Carl Fink
On 07/15/2018 12:54 AM, Octopus Octopus wrote: Heyo, I'm having this confusing bug where I launch thunderbird and it instead launches 2 copies of it, I originally had an extra .desktop file for the thunderbird-beta deleting it had no effect. Does it do that if you launch Thunderbird from the

apt-get update hangs forever

2018-07-15 Thread deloptes
Hi on one of my machines apt-get update hangs forever. Get:32 http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian stretch/non-free i386 Packages [69.7 kB] Get:33 http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian stretch/non-free Translation-en [80.6 kB] 0% [Working] What can I do to understand the reason and to solve it? thanks

Debian got too fat?

2018-07-15 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, would you mind to take a look at https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=888743 The fix is pretty easy. Whats really bugging me is that nobody dares to touch the complex code of lsb-base. IMHO this is a clear indication that Debian lost the blessed path other Unixes d

Re: Wrapping lines, was Re: BTRFS and debian

2018-07-15 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 01:23:36PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 10:10:01PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Sat 14 Jul 2018 at 19:50:03 (+1000), Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 05:59:58PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > > > > ZFS is killer technolo