Re: transfer disk

2018-04-09 Thread mick crane
On 2018-04-10 04:48, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: On 10/04/18 14:01, mick crane wrote: hello, Can you pop a hard disk that boots with a Debian installation on it into another entirely different PC and will the kernel try to make sense of its new hardware ? mick Mostly. I once had a disk that o

Re: transfer disk

2018-04-09 Thread Felix Miata
mick crane composed on 2018-04-10 03:01 (UTC+0100): > Can you pop a hard disk that boots with a Debian installation on it into > another entirely different PC and will the kernel try to make sense of > its new hardware ? IME, if the chipset and CPU are Intel, it doesn't matter how new or old, b

Re: transfer disk

2018-04-09 Thread David Wright
On Tue 10 Apr 2018 at 03:01:56 (+0100), mick crane wrote: > Can you pop a hard disk that boots with a Debian installation on it > into another entirely different PC and will the kernel try to make > sense of its new hardware ? Yes, I used to build a system in one box and then install the drive in

Re: SSD's and many edits of a single file

2018-04-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 April 2018 21:25:34 David Christensen wrote: > On 04/09/18 07:30, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 09 April 2018 09:51:37 Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 09:46:07AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com > >> > >> wrote: > >>> To your original problem, have you tried going to a

Re: transfer disk

2018-04-09 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 10/04/18 14:01, mick crane wrote: hello, Can you pop a hard disk that boots with a Debian installation on it into another entirely different PC and will the kernel try to make sense of its new hardware ? mick Mostly. I once had a disk that often moved between a desktop and laptop. If the

Re: transfer disk

2018-04-09 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 03:01:56AM +0100, mick crane wrote: > hello, > Can you pop a hard disk that boots with a Debian installation on it into > another entirely different PC and will the kernel try to make sense of its > new hardware ? > Sometimes "yes," sometimes "no". It depends on a variety o

transfer disk

2018-04-09 Thread mick crane
hello, Can you pop a hard disk that boots with a Debian installation on it into another entirely different PC and will the kernel try to make sense of its new hardware ? mick -- Key ID4BFEBB31

Re: I can't expand the Debian-partition

2018-04-09 Thread David Christensen
On 04/09/18 06:04, Gdsi wrote: Hi all. After copying a bulk files I felt the limitation of Debian-partition, and decided expand it, as a space on disk was. The partitions on disk placed so: sda2-Debian, sda3-swap. I deleted the sda3-swap, and expand sda2-Debian, and create swap again. I used

Re: SSD's and many edits of a single file

2018-04-09 Thread David Christensen
On 04/09/18 07:30, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 09 April 2018 09:51:37 Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 09:46:07AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: To your original problem, have you tried going to a command line and throwing in a couple =sync=s? I would try that, maybe after sav

Re: hdmi from cable box in a Linux window?

2018-04-09 Thread Felix Miata
John Conover composed on 2018-04-09 16:14 (UTC-0700): > > Is there a good way of getting hdmi from a cable TV box into a window > on the Linux screen? Anyone done it? > BTW, my NTSC->xawtv and an old Hauppauge card works fine, but the NTSC > is being discontinued by my provider. I need a replacem

Re: mate-panel segfault

2018-04-09 Thread songbird
Liam O'Toole wrote: >songbird wrote: ... >> i wish i had better answers for you than to suggest >> upgrade. so many changes have been made to MATE since >> 1.16... i'm not sure if the MATE devs would even get >> into trying to debug. > > Just to elaborate on that, MATE 1.18 is available in str

hdmi from cable box in a Linux window?

2018-04-09 Thread John Conover
Is there a good way of getting hdmi from a cable TV box into a window on the Linux screen? Anyone done it? Thanks, John BTW, my NTSC->xawtv and an old Hauppauge card works fine, but the NTSC is being discontinued by my provider. I need a replacement. -- John Conover, cono...@rahul.ne

Re: mate-panel segfault

2018-04-09 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2018-04-09, songbird wrote: > Greg Marks wrote: > ... >> (The instruction pointer and the stack pointer values will vary, >> as you'd expect.) I am running Debian 9, Linux kernel 4.6.0-1-amd64 >> x86_64, with MATE 1.16.2 desktop; my computer has a PNY Quadro K620 >> 2GB Video Card and is runni

Re: mate-panel segfault

2018-04-09 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2018-04-09, Greg Marks wrote: > I've been having a minor but mildly annoying problem. From time to > time, the entire MATE desktop will flash, and all open windows remain > open; however, the order in which their tabs appear in the bottom > panel is randomly rearranged. So, if I have 13 termi

Re: install printer

2018-04-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 April 2018 15:45:34 Brian wrote: > On Mon 09 Apr 2018 at 15:32:05 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 09 April 2018 15:18:38 Brian wrote: > > > On Mon 09 Apr 2018 at 05:55:04 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Monday 09 April 2018 03:24:40 mess-mate wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > >

Re: install printer

2018-04-09 Thread Dan Purgert
Brian wrote: > On Mon 09 Apr 2018 at 10:23:07 -, Dan Purgert wrote: > >> Georgi Naplatanov wrote: >> > On 04/09/2018 10:24 AM, mess-mate wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> howto installing my HP ENVY printer ? >> >> Cups seems installed but what next. >> >> regards >> >> >> > >> > >> > open http://localho

Re: install printer

2018-04-09 Thread Brian
On Mon 09 Apr 2018 at 15:32:05 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 09 April 2018 15:18:38 Brian wrote: > > > On Mon 09 Apr 2018 at 05:55:04 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Monday 09 April 2018 03:24:40 mess-mate wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > howto installing my HP ENVY printer ? > > > > Cups

Re: install printer

2018-04-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 April 2018 15:18:38 Brian wrote: > On Mon 09 Apr 2018 at 05:55:04 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 09 April 2018 03:24:40 mess-mate wrote: > > > Hi, > > > howto installing my HP ENVY printer ? > > > Cups seems installed but what next. > > > regards > > > > All of the setup too

Re: install printer

2018-04-09 Thread Brian
On Mon 09 Apr 2018 at 05:55:04 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 09 April 2018 03:24:40 mess-mate wrote: > > > Hi, > > howto installing my HP ENVY printer ? > > Cups seems installed but what next. > > regards > > All of the setup tools are available by pointing your browser at > localhost:

Re: install printer

2018-04-09 Thread Brian
On Mon 09 Apr 2018 at 09:32:49 +0200, deloptes wrote: > mess-mate wrote: > > > Hi, > > howto installing my HP ENVY printer ? > > Cups seems installed but what next. > > regards > > use URL http://localhost:631 -> Administration -> Add Printer > > it might be you need additional packages like hp

Re: SSD's and many edits of a single file

2018-04-09 Thread songbird
Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 09 April 2018 06:18:18 songbird wrote: >> Gene Heskett wrote: >> > Greetings folks; >> > >> > Updodate Wheezy, realtime kernel because machine is running >> > linuxcnc. >> > >> > Editor is geany and file is left open in the editor, and reloaded >> > into linuxcnc as

Re: I can't expand the Debian-partition

2018-04-09 Thread songbird
Gdsi wrote: > Hi all. > After copying a bulk files I felt the limitation of Debian-partition, and > decided expand it, as a space on disk was. The partitions on disk placed so: > sda2-Debian, sda3-swap. I deleted the sda3-swap, and expand sda2-Debian, and > create swap again. I used "parted" w

Re: how do i tell usb to leave keyboard alone?

2018-04-09 Thread Curt
On 2018-04-08, songbird wrote: > Brian wrote: > ... >> You could resolve the idea that sane is involved with >> >> apt purge libsane > > that takes out: > >colord >hplip >libsane >printer-driver-postscript-hp He probably means you purge it, then see, then know (at which point r

ACPI Error on boot

2018-04-09 Thread Anil Duggirala
hello, I am getting an error on boot in my dual boot Win 10-Debian 9 system, ACPI Error: Cannot release Mutex [PATM], not acquired (20160831/exmutex-393) ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\_SB.PCI0.LPCB.ECDV._Q66] (Node 9346529f5960), AE_AML_MUTEX_NOT_ACQUIRED (20160831/psparse-543)

Re: etherape - why removed?

2018-04-09 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On seg, 09 abr 2018, Hans wrote: I am regularly building my own kali-linux versions That's a particular use case, but I'd just like to add that for a regular user, a package disappearing from testing may not have an immediate effect. The package won't be uninstalled just because it's no l

Re: Ideal place to set environment variables

2018-04-09 Thread David Wright
On Mon 09 Apr 2018 at 08:32:00 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Apr 07, 2018 at 11:47:19AM +0100, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: … a post that doesn't seem to have made it to the archives. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2018/04/author.html > > > > > > Really? :-( > > > > >

Re: etherape - why removed?

2018-04-09 Thread David Wright
On Mon 09 Apr 2018 at 16:31:12 (+0200), Hans wrote: > Hi Roberto and the Wanderer for making some things clear. My fault, that I > interpreted the website of tracker not correctly. > > However, it is not understandable for me, why a package has to be removed > (due > to a bug) instead of keepi

Re: etherape - why removed?

2018-04-09 Thread Hans
Am Montag, 9. April 2018, 17:48:21 CEST schrieb The Wanderer: Hi The Wanderer, thank you for this detailed and very informative response. I think, this makes everything clear for me, and my little question is solved. However, I will read your message severalt times, so I do understand it fully,

Re: SSD's and many edits of a single file

2018-04-09 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 10:13:21AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 09 April 2018 09:46:07 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: [...] > > To your original problem, have you tried going to a command line and > > throwing in a couple =sync=s? I would try t

Re: etherape - why removed?

2018-04-09 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-04-09 at 10:31, Hans wrote: > Hi Roberto and the Wanderer for making some things clear. My fault, > that I interpreted the website of tracker not correctly. > > However, it is not understandable for me, why a package has to be > removed (due to a bug) instead of keeping the last running v

Re: SSD's and many edits of a single file

2018-04-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 10:30:58AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 09 April 2018 09:51:37 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > As others have explained, the OS (Linux) keeps a cache of file > > contents that have been written by applications, but not yet committed > > to permanent storage. If you "save

Re: etherape - why removed?

2018-04-09 Thread Hans
Hi Roberto and the Wanderer for making some things clear. My fault, that I interpreted the website of tracker not correctly. However, it is not understandable for me, why a package has to be removed (due to a bug) instead of keeping the last running version, and then, when a newer and running

Re: SSD's and many edits of a single file

2018-04-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 April 2018 09:51:37 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 09:46:07AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > To your original problem, have you tried going to a command line and > > throwing in a couple =sync=s? I would try that, maybe after saving > > in your editor, and again

Re: How to limit udisks2 rules to a specific device?

2018-04-09 Thread Mikhail Morfikov
On 2018-04-09 12:30, Richard Hector wrote: > On 09/04/18 04:50, Mikhail Morfikov wrote: >> When it comes to mounting devices, I have two simple rules: >> 1) only root can do it. >> 2) in some cases only defined users can mount some specific devices. >> >> So I want to forbid all users (except root)

Re: etherape - why removed?

2018-04-09 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-04-09 at 10:12, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 04:04:46PM +0200, Hans wrote: > >> Hi, I am still confused about debian package philosophie. >> >> I can see, etherape is migrated successfull to testing, and now it >> is removed without a reason. It looks like there is

Re: SSD's and many edits of a single file

2018-04-09 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> A big, rapidly blinking BLOCK cursor would help these old eyes find >> it a lot easier. But in 20 years thats fallen out of style, dammit. 100% idle state is important to reduce power consumption, so blinking while otherwise idle is to be avoided in general, yes. But it's OK to blink when th

Re: SSD's and many edits of a single file

2018-04-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 April 2018 09:46:07 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, April 09, 2018 05:53:18 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > > What else is a good editor? And lets not start yet another vim vs > > emacs war. kwrite and kate come to mind. I'm running Trinity > > Desktop, maybe I should check them out.

Re: etherape - why removed?

2018-04-09 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 04:04:46PM +0200, Hans wrote: > Hi, > I am still confused about debian package philosophie. > > I can see, etherape is migrated successfull to testing, and now it is removed > without a reason. It looks like there is an automatismn behind this. Debian- > Tracker showed no

Re: SSD's and many edits of a single file

2018-04-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 April 2018 06:18:18 songbird wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > Greetings folks; > > > > Updodate Wheezy, realtime kernel because machine is running > > linuxcnc. > > > > Editor is geany and file is left open in the editor, and reloaded > > into linuxcnc as changes are made to the file,

etherape - why removed?

2018-04-09 Thread Hans
Hi, I am still confused about debian package philosophie. I can see, etherape is migrated successfull to testing, and now it is removed without a reason. It looks like there is an automatismn behind this. Debian- Tracker showed no clear information - or I did not recognize it. Similar thing

Re: SSD's and many edits of a single file

2018-04-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 09:46:07AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > To your original problem, have you tried going to a command line and throwing > in a couple =sync=s? I would try that, maybe after saving in your editor, > and > again maybe after open and / or saving in the cnc program. As

Re: SSD's and many edits of a single file

2018-04-09 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, April 09, 2018 05:53:18 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > What else is a good editor? And lets not start yet another vim vs emacs > war. kwrite and kate come to mind. I'm running Trinity Desktop, maybe I > should check them out. Whatever, needs to be able to have several files > open so I can jus

Re: SSD's and many edits of a single file

2018-04-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 09:32:14AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > A big, rapidly blinking > BLOCK cursor would help these old eyes find it a lot easier. But in 20 > years thats fallen out of style, dammit. The cursor is a function of the terminal, not of the text editor running inside the terminal

Re: SSD's and many edits of a single file

2018-04-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 April 2018 09:02:55 Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> So the actual disk isn't to blame (cat'ing a file that was just > >> saved won't look at the disk anyway). > > > > Whats it look at 5+ minutes later? > > Same difference: if `cat` can't see it, then the change hasn't been > received by th

Re: I can't expand the Debian-partition

2018-04-09 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 09:04:56AM -0400, Gdsi wrote: > Hi all. > After copying a bulk files I felt the limitation of Debian-partition, and > decided expand it, as a space on disk was. The partitions on disk placed so: > sda2-Debian, sda3-swap. I de

I can't expand the Debian-partition

2018-04-09 Thread Gdsi
Hi all. After copying a bulk files I felt the limitation of Debian-partition, and decided expand it, as a space on disk was. The partitions on disk placed so: sda2-Debian, sda3-swap. I deleted the sda3-swap, and expand sda2-Debian, and create swap again. I used "parted" with terminal. After al

Re: how do i tell usb to leave keyboard alone?

2018-04-09 Thread songbird
songbird wrote: ... was hopeful again, but still there this morning. had times where keyboard was dead for minutes at a time. so upgraded hammer to sledge (command line to kernel via grub). usbcore.autosuspend=-1 not sure it will make any difference, but worth a try. songbird

Re: mate-panel segfault

2018-04-09 Thread songbird
Greg Marks wrote: ... > (The instruction pointer and the stack pointer values will vary, > as you'd expect.) I am running Debian 9, Linux kernel 4.6.0-1-amd64 > x86_64, with MATE 1.16.2 desktop; my computer has a PNY Quadro K620 > 2GB Video Card and is running libdrm-nouveau2 version 2.4.74-1 and

Re: SSD's and many edits of a single file

2018-04-09 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> So the actual disk isn't to blame (cat'ing a file that was just saved >> won't look at the disk anyway). > Whats it look at 5+ minutes later? Same difference: if `cat` can't see it, then the change hasn't been received by the OS at all (even less so by the underlying disk). > The file had not

Re: Ideal place to set environment variables

2018-04-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Apr 07, 2018 at 11:47:19AM +0100, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > > Really? :-( > > > The $ metacharacter is documented in the FreeBSD > manual page that I pointed to before, alongside a ~ > metacharacter which yields your desired result fairly trivially.  OK

Re: SSD's and many edits of a single file

2018-04-09 Thread songbird
Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings folks; > > Updodate Wheezy, realtime kernel because machine is running linuxcnc. > > Editor is geany and file is left open in the editor, and reloaded into > linuxcnc as changes are made to the file, and saved but not closed. > > And eventually the updates made to t

Re: SSD's and many edits of a single file

2018-04-09 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 09, 2018 at 05:53:18AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 08 April 2018 23:13:28 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > >> > And eventually the updates made to the file are not actually > > >> > saved, > > >> > > >> Can you be more precise than "

Re: install printer

2018-04-09 Thread Brian
On Mon 09 Apr 2018 at 10:23:07 -, Dan Purgert wrote: > Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > > On 04/09/2018 10:24 AM, mess-mate wrote: > >> Hi, > >> howto installing my HP ENVY printer ? > >> Cups seems installed but what next. > >> regards > >> > > > > > > open http://localhost:631/ with your favorite

Re: How to limit udisks2 rules to a specific device?

2018-04-09 Thread Richard Hector
On 09/04/18 04:50, Mikhail Morfikov wrote: > When it comes to mounting devices, I have two simple rules: > 1) only root can do it. > 2) in some cases only defined users can mount some specific devices. > > So I want to forbid all users (except root) to access all devices that people > can possibly

Re: Help needed with home network configuration

2018-04-09 Thread Dan Purgert
Celejar wrote: > On Sun, 8 Apr 2018 00:32:05 - (UTC) > Dan Purgert wrote: >> If you have a device repeating a WiFi signal, it *will* use the same >> channel as the upstream AP. It *cannot* use a different channel. >> >> In the event you have a dual-band AP, and the following conditions are >

Re: install printer

2018-04-09 Thread Dan Purgert
Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > On 04/09/2018 10:24 AM, mess-mate wrote: >> Hi, >> howto installing my HP ENVY printer ? >> Cups seems installed but what next. >> regards >> > > > open http://localhost:631/ with your favorite browser and add the printer. > > By the way I couldn't see your printer there

Re: Help needed with home network configuration

2018-04-09 Thread Dan Purgert
Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 6 Apr 2018 10:00:31 - (UTC) > Dan Purgert wrote: > >> Celejar wrote: >> > On Tue, 3 Apr 2018 11:30:24 - (UTC) >> > Dan Purgert wrote: >> >> [...] >> >> >> >> Yep, you've got the terms right. >> >> >> >> Does the buffalo also provide wifi access to other client

Re: install printer

2018-04-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 April 2018 03:24:40 mess-mate wrote: > Hi, > howto installing my HP ENVY printer ? > Cups seems installed but what next. > regards All of the setup tools are available by pointing your browser at localhost:631. -- Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense

Re: SSD's and many edits of a single file

2018-04-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 April 2018 23:13:28 Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> > And eventually the updates made to the file are not actually > >> > saved, > >> > >> Can you be more precise than "eventually"? > > > > Probably 100+ edits and saves over 4 or 5 hours. > > > >> More importantly: what makes you think the

Re: add native support for bitlocker

2018-04-09 Thread Darac Marjal
On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 12:10:52PM +, Aaron Schneider wrote: For work reasons, I keep some data on bitlocker-encrypted drives (FAT, FAT32,  NTFS). Whenever I connect the drive to my debian computer, I have to manually mount it using dislocker from the shell. Would like the user interface did

Re: install printer

2018-04-09 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 04/09/2018 10:24 AM, mess-mate wrote: > Hi, > howto installing my HP ENVY printer ? > Cups seems installed but what next. > regards > open http://localhost:631/ with your favorite browser and add the printer. By the way I couldn't see your printer there. It may not be supported by CUPS out o

Re: install printer

2018-04-09 Thread deloptes
mess-mate wrote: > Hi, > howto installing my HP ENVY printer ? > Cups seems installed but what next. > regards use URL http://localhost:631 -> Administration -> Add Printer it might be you need additional packages like hplip and/or hpijs regards

install printer

2018-04-09 Thread mess-mate
Hi, howto installing my HP ENVY printer ? Cups seems installed but what next. regards