Re: [Was: Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Glenn English
>> I promise you, people ARE using date -d '...' in shell scripts. >> LOTS of people. Hell, I've done it.(*) The Java Gregorian Calendar class was a delightful piece of software when I last used it (15 or so years ago). It does know the difference between the Julian and Gregorian calendars, among

Re: Frustration over Debian naming

2018-02-05 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 6:17 AM, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > Tangentially to that, it seems that someone needs to pick up the dropped > baton and update the pictures. Those are all copies of a diagram by Claudio Filho, if anyone updates it, please send him a pull request to update the offic

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Richard Hector
On 06/02/18 18:38, Erik Christiansen wrote: > Perl is the quintessential write-only language, which with a bit of luck > will die out before it catches on Now you're getting to fighting talk ... :-) Richard signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

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Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 05.02.18 10:02, Michael Stone wrote: > IIRC it started out as a YACC function in the late 80s, and is now a Bison > (YACC+GNU extensions) library. In that case it has a precise grammar, expressed in BNF (Backus Naur Form), though the lexer (I've always used lex together with yacc/bison) could a

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-02-05 at 13:47, Brian wrote: > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 10:24:14 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: >> If there's an ongoing discussion on that mailing list, and one of >> the participants wants to draw in a third person who also >> subscribes, it's entirely appropriate to CC a reply to that third >

Reply to sender, Reply to list (was: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag)

2018-02-05 Thread Ben Finney
Richard Hector writes: > On 06/02/18 02:11, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2018-02-05 01:53:02 +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > > You should set up a "Mail-Followup-To:" for that. For reference, this refers to one of two proposed (but never standardised) fields “Mail-Followup-To” and “Mail-Reply-To

Re: [Was: Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Richard Hector
On 06/02/18 15:45, Michael Stone wrote: >> ... and how do you deal with locales that have changed definition over >> time? What was the country code for (eg) Prussia in 1752? It just gets >> painful ... > > Yes, this is more a novelty than anything. Even apart from changing > national borders, thi

Re: [Was: Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 03:36:53PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: On 06/02/18 15:24, Michael Stone wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 12:32:06PM +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: And for the far past, cal is superior; compare: $ cal -3 9 1752    August 1752  September 1752 October 1752

Re: [Was: Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Richard Hector
On 06/02/18 15:24, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 12:32:06PM +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: >> And for the far past, cal is superior; compare: >> >> $ cal -3 9 1752 >>    August 1752  September 1752 October 1752 >> Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa  Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa  Su Mo T

Re: [Was: Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 08:13:10PM -0600, David Wright wrote: But how would you deal with the simplest (to express) problem of all, that of $ date -d 1/2/18 Tue Jan 2 00:00:00 CST 2018 $ which would mean a battery of locale-specific rules. Yup. You'd need to accept something (probably iso860

Re: [Was: Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 12:32:06PM +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote: And for the far past, cal is superior; compare: $ cal -3 9 1752 August 1752 September 1752 October 1752 Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa 1 1 2 14 15 1

Re: [Was: Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread David Wright
On Tue 06 Feb 2018 at 12:32:06 (+1100), Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 05.02.18 09:39, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 04:04:34PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > > > All you describe is convenience for programmatic use. As I explained, > > > this parser is meant for interactive use.

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread David Wright
On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 23:39:30 (+), Brian wrote: > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 15:42:32 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 19:37:45 (+), Brian wrote: > > > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 13:12:45 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 18:01:08 (+), Brian w

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Richard Hector
On 06/02/18 02:11, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2018-02-05 01:53:02 +1300, Richard Hector wrote: >> On 05/02/18 01:44, Nicolas George wrote: PS - please don't cc me; I'm on the list. >>> Done this once, but I cannot promise I will think of it later. Document >>> your preference in your mail mai

[Was: Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 05.02.18 09:39, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 04:04:34PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > > All you describe is convenience for programmatic use. As I explained, > > this parser is meant for interactive use. > > What on EARTH made you think THAT? The fuzzy grammar of the date st

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread David Wright
On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 23:20:13 (+), Brian wrote: > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 15:45:54 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 20:26:46 (+), Brian wrote: > > > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 13:13:18 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 18:06:34 (+), Brian w

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread David Wright
On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 17:07:35 (-0500), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > Received: from david by alum with local (Exim 4.80) > > > (envelope-from ) > > > id 1eimCc-EV-Nv; Mon, 05 Feb 2018 13:13:18 -0600 > > > Is that meant to tell me something (as you wrote "but")? > > Without knowi

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Michael Stone: Anyway, if there was a simple solution someone would have implemented it by now. Indeed, that is the case; and it has been around for almost as long as those 20 years that you have been watching people use the GNU tool. In 2001, Paul Jarc invented a fairly simple notation for

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Brian
On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 15:42:32 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 19:37:45 (+), Brian wrote: > > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 13:12:45 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > > > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 18:01:08 (+), Brian wrote: > > > > > > > > Now you have problems (or could have). The

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Brian
On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 15:45:54 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 20:26:46 (+), Brian wrote: > > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 13:13:18 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > > > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 18:06:34 (+), Brian wrote: > > > > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 12:53:36 -0500, Greg Wooledge

Re: Frustration over Debian naming

2018-02-05 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
rhkramer: Intentionally cross posted. Aside: For those on the debian-user lists, the thread came from the debian-backports list, but my frustration should probably be expressed more to the debian-user list (or debian-developer list, assuming there is such a list (to which I am not subscribed)

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
> > Received: from david by alum with local (Exim 4.80) > > (envelope-from ) > > id 1eimCc-EV-Nv; Mon, 05 Feb 2018 13:13:18 -0600 > Is that meant to tell me something (as you wrote "but")? Without knowing exactly what piece Brian was focusing on, I can at least point out that

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread David Wright
On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 20:26:46 (+), Brian wrote: > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 13:13:18 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 18:06:34 (+), Brian wrote: > > > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 12:53:36 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 05:31:29PM +, Bria

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread David Wright
On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 19:37:45 (+), Brian wrote: > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 13:12:45 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 18:01:08 (+), Brian wrote: > > > > > > Now you have problems (or could have). The first problem is that the > > > "duplicates" are not duplicates becaus

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 06/02/18 04:52, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I installed memtest86+ and ran it with all of the defaults. It took over an hour, but no errors were reported. Please try parallel memtester and stress. These found memory errors for me that were not found by memtest86+. In *eight* terminal window

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 06/02/18 07:32, David Wright wrote: I'm not in the habit of upgrading BIOS/UEFI on my computers. (I do have {amd64,intel}-microcode installed.) What old or buggy code would I be running when booting a linux installation? (I accept that Grub has to run, and the kernel and initramfs be found, in

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Brian
On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 13:13:18 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 18:06:34 (+), Brian wrote: > > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 12:53:36 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 05:31:29PM +, Brian wrote: > > > > AfAIK. there isn't any way to determine whether

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Brian
On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 13:18:29 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 19:00:16 (+), Brian wrote: > > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 08:32:32 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > > > If it really worries you, the answer might be ~/.procmailrc and > > > > > > :0 Wh: $HOME/msgid.lock > > > | for

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Brian
On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 13:12:45 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 18:01:08 (+), Brian wrote: > > > > Now you have problems (or could have). The first problem is that the > > "duplicates" are not duplicates because the headers are different. The > > second problem is - which on

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread David Wright
On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 19:00:16 (+), Brian wrote: > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 08:32:32 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > If it really worries you, the answer might be ~/.procmailrc and > > > > :0 Wh: $HOME/msgid.lock > > | formail -D 19 $HOME/msgid.cache > > > > I used it for years. > > So ha

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread David Wright
On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 18:06:34 (+), Brian wrote: > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 12:53:36 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 05:31:29PM +, Brian wrote: > > > AfAIK. there isn't any way to determine whether a message posted to > > > -user is from a non-subscriber. > > > > I

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread David Wright
On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 18:01:08 (+), Brian wrote: > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 16:09:11 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 09:44:43AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > > > On 2018-02-05 at 09:32, David Wright wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > > :0 Wh: $HOME/msgid.lock > > > > | f

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On Mon, 2018-02-05 at 19:40 +0100, Felipe Salvador wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 11:06:21PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh > wrote: > > On Sun, 04 Feb 2018, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > > I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform. > > > Lately, it seems if I have been p

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Brian
On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 08:32:32 -0600, David Wright wrote: > If it really worries you, the answer might be ~/.procmailrc and > > :0 Wh: $HOME/msgid.lock > | formail -D 19 $HOME/msgid.cache > > I used it for years. So has Microsoft in Exchange. They use it to delete a user's mails silently. E

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Brian
On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 10:24:14 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2018-02-05 at 10:09, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 09:44:43AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > > > >> On 2018-02-05 at 09:32, David Wright wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >> > :0 Wh: $HOME/msgid.lock > >> > | formail

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, February 05, 2018 10:02:50 AM Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 09:11:23AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > >I assume (I know) that the license for date is some free / open source > >license that would allow you to incorporate the old code into a new > >function (probably

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Felipe Salvador
On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 11:06:21PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sun, 04 Feb 2018, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform. > > Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned nodes. > > That means: > > 1. "unlin

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread rhkramer
Thanks On Monday, February 05, 2018 09:46:54 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > No need to guess. You can ask it. > > wooledg:~$ date --version

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread David Wright
On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 14:45:17 (-0200), Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Mon, 05 Feb 2018, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > I am rather hesitant about updating the BIOS/UFEI. In fact I can't > > seem to find an upgrade for the FX-8320 on the AMD web site. > > An update, if any are available,

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Brian
On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 12:53:36 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 05:31:29PM +, Brian wrote: > > AfAIK. there isn't any way to determine whether a message posted to > > -user is from a non-subscriber. > > I believe some people are using the one of the X-Spam* headers > and

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 2/4/18, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sun, 04 Feb 2018, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: >> I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform. >> Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned nodes. > > That means: > > 1. "unlinked" files or directories were sti

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Brian
On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 16:09:11 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 09:44:43AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > > On 2018-02-05 at 09:32, David Wright wrote: > > [...] > > > > :0 Wh: $HOME/msgid.lock > > > | formail -D 19 $HOME/msgid.cache > > > > > > I used it for years. >

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 05:31:29PM +, Brian wrote: > AfAIK. there isn't any way to determine whether a message posted to > -user is from a non-subscriber. I believe some people are using the one of the X-Spam* headers and looking for the LDOSUBSCRIBER substring. Which is extremely non-obvious

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Brian
On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 09:41:20 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2018-02-05 at 08:58, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2018-02-05 08:40:27 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > > > >> On 2018-02-05 at 08:11, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > >>> You should set up a "Mail-Followup-To:" for that. This is > >>> enti

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Jochen Spieker
Stephen P. Molnar: > > I installed memtest86+ and ran it with all of the defaults. It took > over an hour, but no errors were reported. That's not long enough. From what I have read you should let it run for a day or so and even then you cannot be sure that there are no memory errors. > I am ra

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 05 Feb 2018, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I installed memtest86+ and ran it with all of the defaults. It took > over an hour, but no errors were reported. Memtest86 and memtest86+ are not always that good at finding memory errors for some reason... Try a 24h/48h test over the weekend or so

Re: /lib/lsb/init-functions on LXC servers

2018-02-05 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 04:04:37PM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > Hi Reco, > > you mean this is a known issue??? Well, it's known to me (since then) at least as I merely read the contents of /lib/lsb/init-functions in my Debian system. Pinpointing the problem is easy, anyone who has a

Re: Can't get my video card running

2018-02-05 Thread floris
Erkko Lahnajärvi schreef op 2018-02-05 15:49: Hi, I fetched a new computer few days ago. The equipment are: Motherboard: Gigabyte AB350-Gaming CPU: Amd Ryzen 3 1300x RAM: 16Gb Video card: GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Hard disk: WD green 240 Gb On this computer I installed Debian-9.3.0-amd64. I've first

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On Mon, 2018-02-05 at 10:15 +1300, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > On 05/02/18 09:49, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > They seem to happen when I am > > running  four or more apps at the same time. > > I would never expect to see orphaned inodes except after a system > crash  > or kernel memory corruption

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On Sun, 2018-02-04 at 23:06 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sun, 04 Feb 2018, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform. > > Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned > > nodes. > > That means: > > 1. "unlinked

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On Mon, 2018-02-05 at 08:03 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 03:49:36PM -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform. > > Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned > > nodes. > > > > I have goggled the

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-02-05 at 10:09, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 09:44:43AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2018-02-05 at 09:32, David Wright wrote: > > [...] > >> > :0 Wh: $HOME/msgid.lock >> > | formail -D 19 $HOME/msgid.cache >> > >> > I used it for years. > >> I don't parse

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On Sun, 2018-02-04 at 20:45 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 04 February 2018 15:49:36 Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > > I am running Debian Stretch on am eight thread AMD GPU platform. > > Lately, it seems if I have been plagued by surfeit of orphaned > nodes. > > > > I have goggled the causes

Re: Causes, cures and prevention of orphaned inodes?

2018-02-05 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
On Mon, 2018-02-05 at 07:37 +0100, deloptes wrote: > Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > > Can anyone give me some guidance in what I should be looking > > for?  It > > would be much appreciated. > > From my experience most probably inappropriate shutdown (no unmount > > when > > shutdown). > How do you

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 09:44:43AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2018-02-05 at 09:32, David Wright wrote: [...] > > :0 Wh: $HOME/msgid.lock > > | formail -D 19 $HOME/msgid.cache > > > > I used it for years. > > I don't parse this well enough

Can't get my video card running

2018-02-05 Thread Erkko Lahnajärvi
Hi, I fetched a new computer few days ago. The equipment are: Motherboard: Gigabyte AB350-Gaming CPU: Amd Ryzen 3 1300x RAM: 16Gb Video card: GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Hard disk: WD green 240 Gb On this computer I installed Debian-9.3.0-amd64. I've first tried to install the video card. I found a par

Re: /lib/lsb/init-functions on LXC servers

2018-02-05 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi Reco, you mean this is a known issue??? Harri

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 09:11:23AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: I assume (I know) that the license for date is some free / open source license that would allow you to incorporate the old code into a new function (probably with appropriate citation / credit) and then add / modify / delete code

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 09:11:23AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > I assume (I know) that the license for date is some free / open source > license No need to guess. You can ask it. wooledg:~$ date --version date (GNU coreutils) 8.26 Copyright (C) 2016 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-02-05 at 09:32, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 08:40:27 (-0500), The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2018-02-05 at 08:11, Vincent Lefevre wrote: >>> You should set up a "Mail-Followup-To:" for that. This is >>> entirely your problem. >> >> That does seem to be the trend and positio

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-02-05 at 08:58, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2018-02-05 08:40:27 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2018-02-05 at 08:11, Vincent Lefevre wrote: >>> You should set up a "Mail-Followup-To:" for that. This is >>> entirely your problem. >> >> That does seem to be the trend and position of th

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Feb 04, 2018 at 04:04:34PM +0100, Nicolas George wrote: > All you describe is convenience for programmatic use. As I explained, > this parser is meant for interactive use. What on EARTH made you think THAT? I promise you, people ARE using date -d '...' in shell scripts. LOTS of people. H

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread David Wright
On Mon 05 Feb 2018 at 08:40:27 (-0500), The Wanderer wrote: > On 2018-02-05 at 08:11, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2018-02-05 01:53:02 +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > > > >> On 05/02/18 01:44, Nicolas George wrote: > > >>> Done this once, but I cannot promise I will think of it later. > >>> Do

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, February 05, 2018 08:07:47 AM Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2018-02-04 08:22:23 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 12:48:45AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > > > In which case, it should refuse to accept '4/2/2018' at all, right? > > > > It can't, that would break work

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2018-02-05 08:40:27 -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2018-02-05 at 08:11, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2018-02-05 01:53:02 +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > >> My preference is for any personal replies addressed to me to go to > >> me, and I'd use the Reply-to header (as intended) if I needed it to

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Curt
On 2018-02-05, Roberto C Sánchez wrote: >> >> It is not rare that the behavior of utilities change and break >> scripts. So, why not here, in particular for a good reason? >> > It is equally common, perhaps even more so, that buggy behavior is > retained (especially if it is not harmful) and th

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-02-05 at 08:11, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2018-02-05 01:53:02 +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > >> On 05/02/18 01:44, Nicolas George wrote: >>> Done this once, but I cannot promise I will think of it later. >>> Document your preference in your mail mail header, the standard >>> way, so th

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2018-02-05 08:12:21 -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 02:07:47PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2018-02-04 08:22:23 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 12:48:45AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > > > > In which case, it should refuse to accept '

Re: "Stopped (with error) /dev/dm-0"

2018-02-05 Thread Curt
On 2018-02-05, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Mon, 05 Feb 2018, Curt wrote: >> At every shutdown; looks like another oldie but goodie bug affecting >> those with encrypted swap (maybe some kind or race condition, if that is >> indeed the proper term). > > Incorrect sequencing, actually.

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 02:07:47PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2018-02-04 08:22:23 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 12:48:45AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > > > In which case, it should refuse to accept '4/2/2018' at all, right? > > > > It can't, that would break wor

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2018-02-05 01:53:02 +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > On 05/02/18 01:44, Nicolas George wrote: > >> PS - please don't cc me; I'm on the list. > > Done this once, but I cannot promise I will think of it later. Document > > your preference in your mail mail header, the standard way, so that it > > is

Re: policy around 'wontfix' bug tag

2018-02-05 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2018-02-04 08:22:23 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 12:48:45AM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > > In which case, it should refuse to accept '4/2/2018' at all, right? > > It can't, that would break working scripts. This is the heart of the > problem: we know the parser is hor

Re: "Stopped (with error) /dev/dm-0"

2018-02-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 05 Feb 2018, Curt wrote: > At every shutdown; looks like another oldie but goodie bug affecting > those with encrypted swap (maybe some kind or race condition, if that is > indeed the proper term). Incorrect sequencing, actually. But if this is ephemeral swap (or ephemeral *anything*), it

"Stopped (with error) /dev/dm-0"

2018-02-05 Thread Curt
Failed "Stopped (with error) /dev/dm-0" At every shutdown; looks like another oldie but goodie bug affecting those with encrypted swap (maybe some kind or race condition, if that is indeed the proper term). Having said that, filesystems are unmounted cleanly (no fsck at reboot, although the shut