Re: CVE-2017-5754 - XEN silent_disable?

2018-01-12 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 08:08:17PM -0500, bw wrote: > > > On Fri, 12 Jan 2018, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > But I think I've found the reason: > > > > In arch/x86/mm/kaiser.c: > > > > void __init kaiser_check_boottime_disable(void) > > { > > [...]

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-12 Thread Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă
On 12-01-2018, at 15h 03'25", David Wright wrote about "Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)" > [...] People use names, computers like numbers. > I do not take sides here, but I can't accept this statement. Numbers are universal, Debian release names ar

Re: Frustration over Debian naming

2018-01-12 Thread Richard Hector
On 13/01/18 10:03, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 12 Jan 2018 at 14:01:34 (+), Ian Campbell wrote: >> On Fri, 2018-01-12 at 13:54 +, Holger Levsen wrote: >>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 08:49:05AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: But the various names and use of those names gets very frustra

Re: Frustration over Debian naming

2018-01-12 Thread John Hasler
rhkramer writes: > The Toy Story names have no inherent sequence to them, and fail to aid > in my (and I suspect several others) understanding. I dislike them as well and would also prefer numbers. I never saw the movie nor had any interest in it so to me the names might as well have been picked

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-12 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, January 12, 2018 04:03:25 PM David Wright wrote: > Another reason: it's a convention that organisations use > because it works. It's less ambiguous to write jessie than 8 > especially in contexts where lots of numbers are being discussed, > and it's more memorable to most people. People

HELP!! - was [Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot]

2018-01-12 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/12/2018 09:29 AM, David Wright wrote: On Fri 12 Jan 2018 at 06:19:57 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: [snip] Not sure. Noticed it recently after fixing a long standing problem involving a bad UUID for the swap partition. Perhaps it's no coincidence then that the Wanderer's earlier forum r

Re: System won't boot anymore after upgrade to jessie

2018-01-12 Thread deloptes
David Wright wrote: > > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/243657/appending-files-to-initramfs-image-reliable > > BTW the necessity of directories to be unpacked before their contents > still pertains, ie ignore the trick in "cpio -o"'s manpage about using > find … -depth to create arch

Re: System won't boot anymore after upgrade to jessie

2018-01-12 Thread deloptes
David Wright wrote: > It seems likely that it's because you can add blobs to a preexisting > initramfs without polluting it/having to unpack and repack it. Greg's > example seems to contain an Intel blob. Not compressing it could be > down to futility, or even licence restrictions (not "hiding" it

Re: black screen after hibernation

2018-01-12 Thread deloptes
Kamil Jońca wrote: > deloptes writes: > >> Kamil Jońca wrote: >> >>> But I cannot turn on my monitor. >> >> screen saver? > Can you explain? > KJ sorry I read now the log from your post regarding backlight Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt if this does not help might be bug some

Re: System won't boot anymore after upgrade to jessie

2018-01-12 Thread David Wright
On Thu 11 Jan 2018 at 20:26:24 (+0100), deloptes wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > I don't actually know how many cpio archives are concatenated together > > in that image.  At least two, obviously, with the first uncompressed > > and the second gzipped. > > This kernel is custom, produced on o

Re: CVE-2017-5754 - ETA?

2018-01-12 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2018-01-12 21:21:06 +, Nick wrote: > It might have aged out of the buffer that dmesg reports on. No, there's the beginning of the dmesg output: [0.00] Linux version 4.9.0-5-amd64 (debian-ker...@lists.debian.org) (gcc version 6.3.0 20170516 (Debian 6.3.0-18) ) #1 SMP Debian 4.9.65-

Re: CVE-2017-5754 - ETA?

2018-01-12 Thread Nick
On 2018-01-12 21:09 GMT, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2018-01-12 10:00:03 -0500, bw wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Jan 2018, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > # dmesg | grep -i isolation > > > > You should get either > > > > [0.00] Kernel/User page tables isolation: enabled > > or > > [0.00] Ker

Re: apt uninstall apparmor

2018-01-12 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 13/01/18 07:16, solitone wrote: Then I found a post [1] pointing the finger to apparmor. I uninstalled it and everything works again as expected. At the moment I have no plan to reinstall it. If you find yourself needing to install it for dependencies, you can disable and mask it with: sy

Re: CVE-2017-5754 - ETA?

2018-01-12 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2018-01-12 16:10:40 -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 09:59:20PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > $ uname -a > > Linux joooj 4.9.0-5-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.65-3+deb9u2 (2018-01-04) x86_64 > > GNU/Linux > > > > There seems to be something really wrong. I'll report a b

Re: CVE-2017-5754 - ETA?

2018-01-12 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 09:59:20PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > $ uname -a > Linux joooj 4.9.0-5-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.65-3+deb9u2 (2018-01-04) x86_64 > GNU/Linux > > There seems to be something really wrong. I'll report a bug. > What is the output of `grep vendor_id /proc/cpuinfo` on yo

Re: CVE-2017-5754 - ETA?

2018-01-12 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2018-01-12 10:00:03 -0500, bw wrote: > On Fri, 12 Jan 2018, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > According to answers on > > > > > > https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/176624/how-do-i-check-if-kpti-is-enabled-on-linux/176654 > > > > linux-image-4.9.0-5-amd64 4.9.65-3+deb9u2 is still vulnera

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-12 Thread David Wright
On Fri 12 Jan 2018 at 14:01:34 (+), Ian Campbell wrote: > On Fri, 2018-01-12 at 13:54 +, Holger Levsen wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 08:49:05AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > But the various names and use of those names gets very frustrating > > > for me, and > > > I suspect I

Re: apt uninstall apparmor (was: Thunderbird no longer opens links)

2018-01-12 Thread Brian
On Fri 12 Jan 2018 at 19:16:28 +0100, solitone wrote: > On 30/11/17 08:48, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > > On 30.11.2017 10:45, solitone wrote: > >> Hi, since a few days, hyperlink no longer works in my Thunderbird. > >> When I click a hyperlink in a message, Chromium (my system's default > >> w

Re: Thunderbird font broken

2018-01-12 Thread Felix Miata
Markus Grunwald composed on 2018-01-12 20:24 (UTC+0100): > Thunderbird seems to handle fontsizes different than all the other > programs I'm using. I had to install the extension "Theme Font & Size > Changer for Thunderbird" (62.0) to fix that broken behaviour, then all > was fine. > Until yester

Re: black screen after hibernation

2018-01-12 Thread Kamil Jońca
deloptes writes: > Kamil Jońca wrote: > >> But I cannot turn on my monitor. > > screen saver? Can you explain? KJ -- http://stopstopnop.pl/stop_stopnop.pl_o_nas.html Never have children, only grandchildren. -- Gore Vidal

Thunderbird font broken

2018-01-12 Thread Markus Grunwald
Hello, Thunderbird seems to handle fontsizes different than all the other programs I'm using. I had to install the extension "Theme Font & Size Changer for Thunderbird" (62.0) to fix that broken behaviour, then all was fine. Until yesterday. I started Thunderbird and the UI-Fonts were H U G E a

apt uninstall apparmor (was: Thunderbird no longer opens links)

2018-01-12 Thread solitone
On 30/11/17 08:48, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > On 30.11.2017 10:45, solitone wrote: >> Hi, since a few days, hyperlink no longer works in my Thunderbird. >> When I click a hyperlink in a message, Chromium (my system's default >> web browser) should open and display the link. This has been worki

Re: html page for bug report

2018-01-12 Thread Tom Furie
On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 05:04:25PM +0100, Pétùr wrote: > On 12/01/18 05:57, Dan Ritter wrote: > >Every bug or ticket tracker expands to fit at least a minimal > >set of features: bug numbering, more states between "new" and > >"fixed", assignment to individuals... > > > >I like Request Tracker (RT

Re: black screen after hibernation

2018-01-12 Thread deloptes
Kamil Jońca wrote: > But I cannot turn on my monitor. screen saver?

Re: Debian iso installation incorrectly sets sources.list

2018-01-12 Thread Steve McIntyre
David Wright wrote: >On Wed 10 Jan 2018 at 11:34:57 (+), Steve McIntyre wrote: ... >> This is a long-standing design decision that probably merits >> re-examination, yes. The current logic assumes: >> >> * if you've used a "netinst" to install, then you won't want to use >>it again late

Re: debian CDs DVDs

2018-01-12 Thread arne
Thanks Thomas and David! It now works.

Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot

2018-01-12 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/12/2018 09:29 AM, David Wright wrote: On Fri 12 Jan 2018 at 06:19:57 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: On 01/11/2018 01:43 PM, David Wright wrote: On Thu 11 Jan 2018 at 11:10:33 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: I multi-boot several varieties of Debian. When booting one specific install, it di

Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot

2018-01-12 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/11/2018 11:38 AM, The Wanderer wrote: [snip] On my system (stable+testing, though with sysvinit rather than systemd): $ dlocate scripts/local-block mdadm: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-block mdadm: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-block/mdadm lvm2: /usr/share/initramfs-

Re: html page for bug report

2018-01-12 Thread Pétùr
On 12/01/18 05:57, Dan Ritter wrote: On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:33:17AM +0100, Pétùr wrote: I am looking for a very simple way to create a bug report webpage. I would like to obtain a single html page where a visitor can create a bug report or feature request. Another visitor can mark the bug as

Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot

2018-01-12 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/11/2018 11:22 AM, bw wrote: On Thu, 11 Jan 2018, Richard Owlett wrote: [snip] journalctl -xb > jan11test The string of interest not present. /usr/share/initramfs-tools/ does not exist /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts has 10 empty folders Doesn't sound right. [snip] Something is lookin

Re: CVE-2017-5754 - ETA?

2018-01-12 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 10:51:34AM -0500, Jack Dangler wrote: > I tried this on my Ubu workstation and didnt get anything back... > $ dmesg | grep -i isolation > $ > $ uname -a > Linux 4.10.0-40-generic #44~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Nov 9 15:37:44 UTC 2017

Re: CVE-2017-5754 - ETA?

2018-01-12 Thread Jack Dangler
On 01/12/2018 10:00 AM, bw wrote: On Fri, 12 Jan 2018, Vincent Lefevre wrote: According to answers on https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/176624/how-do-i-check-if-kpti-is-enabled-on-linux/176654 linux-image-4.9.0-5-amd64 4.9.65-3+deb9u2 is still vulnerable as shown below: # dm

Re: Why was this package removed but apt?

2018-01-12 Thread David Wright
On Fri 12 Jan 2018 at 10:04:52 (+0100), Jonathan Sélea wrote: > It seems like > > Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-Unused-Dependencies "false"; > > Is not "false" by default but indeed true in unattended-upgrades on > Debian 9 (stretch) > Am I wrong about that? --✄ * `Unattended-Upgrade::Rem

Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot

2018-01-12 Thread David Wright
On Fri 12 Jan 2018 at 06:19:57 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 01/11/2018 01:43 PM, David Wright wrote: > >On Thu 11 Jan 2018 at 11:10:33 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: > >>I multi-boot several varieties of Debian. > >>When booting one specific install, it displays many repetitions of: > Be

Re: Frustration over Debian naming

2018-01-12 Thread Teemu Likonen
Ian Campbell [2018-01-12 14:01:34Z] wrote: > On Fri, 2018-01-12 at 13:54 +, Holger Levsen wrote: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_version_history explains this >> nicely and is linked from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian > > I took their point to be that if one needs a wiki page to

black screen after hibernation

2018-01-12 Thread Kamil Jońca
I have strange problem with hibernation (to disk) on my laptop. After resume my screen remains blank. (It is similar to https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/01/msg00177.html, but in my case it is regardless if monitor was off before hibernation) System appears to be alive (can ssh to it,

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-12 Thread Ian Campbell
On Fri, 2018-01-12 at 13:54 +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 08:49:05AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > But the various names and use of those names gets very frustrating > > for me, and > > I suspect I am not the only one. The numbered versions, the Toy > > Story names,

Re: java, javac versions not the same, apt-get doesn't help ...

2018-01-12 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 1/12/18, Bastien Durel wrote: > Le vendredi 12 janvier 2018 à 04:20 -0500, Albretch Mueller a écrit : >> java gives you error messages when you compile and run code with >> different versions of the JVM >> >> while trying to update my box using apt-get I am getting: >> "openjdk-8-jdk is already

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-12 Thread rhkramer
On Friday, January 12, 2018 09:01:34 AM Ian Campbell wrote: > On Fri, 2018-01-12 at 13:54 +, Holger Levsen wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 08:49:05AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > But the various names and use of those names gets very frustrating > > > for me, and > > > I suspect I

Re: Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-12 Thread Holger Levsen
On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 08:49:05AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > But the various names and use of those names gets very frustrating for me, > and > I suspect I am not the only one. The numbered versions, the Toy Story names, > and then the testing, stable, old stable, old old stable is jus

Frustration over Debian naming (was: Re: Meltdown fix for wheezy-backports)

2018-01-12 Thread rhkramer
Intentionally cross posted. On Friday, January 12, 2018 04:58:38 AM Richard Hector wrote: > Apologies for my misunderstanding. I hadn't made the mental link from > wheezy to LTS (I don't (think I) have any wheezy machines left myself, > but have acquired clients who do). Aside: For those on the d

Re: CVE-2017-5754 - ETA?

2018-01-12 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2018-01-04 12:47:42 -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Thu, 04 Jan 2018, francis picabia wrote: > > Redhat, Ubuntu and others have kernel updates available today for this > > kernel patch that has been worked on since November. Normally Debian > > has been quick out of the gate with security measu

Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot

2018-01-12 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-01-11 at 12:45, bw wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jan 2018, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 2018-01-11 at 12:35, bw wrote: >> >> > On stretch local_block is a function in a script named local, maybe using >> > a stretch tool on jessie has things confused? or the initramfs-tools pkg >> > is hosed on

Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot

2018-01-12 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/11/2018 01:43 PM, David Wright wrote: On Thu 11 Jan 2018 at 11:10:33 (-0600), Richard Owlett wrote: I multi-boot several varieties of Debian. When booting one specific install, it displays many repetitions of: Begin: Running /scripts/local-block ... done. It then proceeds to bring up a

Re: [Diagnostic Summary] Re: Strange message during boot

2018-01-12 Thread Richard Owlett
On 01/11/2018 01:28 PM, bw wrote: On Thu, 11 Jan 2018, Richard Owlett wrote: On 01/11/2018 11:35 AM, bw wrote: [snip] Sounds complicated, one version of grub but separate boot partitions always gets me confused too. Not sure best solution. But I'm used to it and have not discovered any pot

Re: html page for bug report

2018-01-12 Thread Dan Ritter
On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 11:33:17AM +0100, Pétùr wrote: > I am looking for a very simple way to create a bug report webpage. I > would like to obtain a single html page where a visitor can create a bug > report or feature request. Another visitor can mark the bug as fixed. No > authentication. User

html page for bug report

2018-01-12 Thread Pétùr
I am looking for a very simple way to create a bug report webpage. I would like to obtain a single html page where a visitor can create a bug report or feature request. Another visitor can mark the bug as fixed. No authentication. User have zero knowledge in html. Are you aware of such program or

Re: java, javac versions not the same, apt-get doesn't help ...

2018-01-12 Thread Bastien Durel
Le vendredi 12 janvier 2018 à 04:20 -0500, Albretch Mueller a écrit : > java gives you error messages when you compile and run code with > different versions of the JVM > > while trying to update my box using apt-get I am getting: > "openjdk-8-jdk is already the newest version." > > How do you ma

Re: Keyboard language randomly changes to Arabic(?)

2018-01-12 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 03:47:45AM -0500, Tim Hume wrote: > > Original Message > >Subject: Re: Keyboard language randomly changes to Arabic(?) > >Local Time: 12 January 2018 1:09 PM > >UTC Time: 12 January 2018 02:09 > >From: d...@debi

java, javac versions not the same, apt-get doesn't help ...

2018-01-12 Thread Albretch Mueller
java gives you error messages when you compile and run code with different versions of the JVM while trying to update my box using apt-get I am getting: "openjdk-8-jdk is already the newest version." How do you make sure you install the same version of both java and javac using apt-get? lbrtchx

Re: Why was this package removed but apt?

2018-01-12 Thread Jonathan Sélea
Hi again, A quick update: It seems like Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-Unused-Dependencies "false"; Is not "false" by default but indeed true in unattended-upgrades on Debian 9 (stretch) Am I wrong about that? / Jonathan On 01/11/18 16:27, Jonathan Sélea wrote: Well, it was removed by unatte

Re: Keyboard language randomly changes to Arabic(?)

2018-01-12 Thread Tim Hume
> Original Message >Subject: Re: Keyboard language randomly changes to Arabic(?) >Local Time: 12 January 2018 1:09 PM >UTC Time: 12 January 2018 02:09 >From: d...@debian.org >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > >On Thu, 11 Jan 2018, Tim Hume wrote: >>I've encountered a strange probl

Re: debian CDs DVDs

2018-01-12 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, arne wrote: > The jigdo files do not work nowadays too. I believe to know what you mean. If you enter the .jigdo file URL like https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-bd/debian-9.3.0-a md64-BD-1.jigdo then it says immediately File `https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/c