Re: Does Debian allow user upgrade system from LTS to the latest system directly?

2017-11-01 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 01:34:27PM +0800, Elof Huang wrote: > How do those people upgrading system from LTS to the latest? > > In my question, I must upgrade my Jessie(LTS) to Stretch before > Buster(stable)? > Please don't top-post. You are correct, that the supported upgrade path will be jessi

Re: Does Debian allow user upgrade system from LTS to the latest system directly?

2017-11-01 Thread Elof Huang
How do those people upgrading system from LTS to the latest? In my question, I must upgrade my Jessie(LTS) to Stretch before Buster(stable)? On 11/02/2017 12:36 PM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 12:22:41PM +0800, Elof Huang wrote: May I upgrade from Jessie to the Buster(

How do I stop system hangs?

2017-11-01 Thread Borden Rhodes
What kernel or other settings can I set to let me keep control of my computer during a runaway process? Basically, how do I tell Linux to keep just enough resources free so I can drop into a shell terminal and figure out what's going wrong? In context, this evening my computer hung for 30 minutes.

Re: Does Debian allow user upgrade system from LTS to the latest system directly?

2017-11-01 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 12:22:41PM +0800, Elof Huang wrote: > May I upgrade from Jessie to the Buster(stable) if Jessie LTS update is > stopped? > That is not supported and is not likely to work particularly well. In fact, you are likely to leave your system in a degraded or unusable state. Reg

Does Debian allow user upgrade system from LTS to the latest system directly?

2017-11-01 Thread Elof Huang
May I upgrade from Jessie to the Buster(stable) if Jessie LTS update is stopped?

Re: Stretch : mount Jessie encrypted HDD via USB

2017-11-01 Thread David Wright
On Wed 01 Nov 2017 at 19:59:25 (+0100), MPhil. Emanoil Kotsev wrote: > David Wright wrote: > > > And one query while we're on the topic. Obviously > > umount is necessary and will be noticed later if > > it's not performed. However, what about vgchange -an > > and locking? AFAICT failing to lock h

Re: buster ssh problem

2017-11-01 Thread Glenn English
On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 7:58 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > The directives that work in ~/.ssh/config also work in /etc/ssh/ssh_config > and this includes the Host matching stuff. > > As it says in the man page, > > SYNOPSIS > ~/.ssh/config > /etc/ssh/ssh_config > > Since you only want to us

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Re: looking for a file format for time series data other software can easily consume

2017-11-01 Thread Dan Hitt
On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > On 01/11/17 20:38, Dan Hitt wrote: >> >> The NetCDF does seem to do what i want. As far as i can tell, it >> allows you to set metadata at the file level as well as attributes >> attached to specific arrays in your data. It can be insta

Re: looking for a file format for time series data other software can easily consume

2017-11-01 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 01/11/17 20:38, Dan Hitt wrote: The NetCDF does seem to do what i want. As far as i can tell, it allows you to set metadata at the file level as well as attributes attached to specific arrays in your data. It can be installed in debian (packages libnetcdf-dev, netcdf-doc, netcdf-bin). The a

Re: buster ssh problem

2017-11-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Nov 01, 2017 at 07:40:40PM +, Glenn English wrote: > I didn't create the ~/.ssh/config file because I wanted ssh to work > for me, no matter who I logged in as or su'ed to. I realize (or think, > anyway) that's going to open my admin box to the darkSide. I need to > think about that. T

Re: buster ssh problem

2017-11-01 Thread Glenn English
On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 12:47 AM, Sven Hartge wrote: > No, this is not the solution, as this will a) set this for every > connection and b) restrict the Cipher list to *only* this insecure > cipher. > > Please read "man ssh_config". The Ciphers statement recognizes + and - > as prefixes to add or

Re: buster ssh problem

2017-11-01 Thread Sven Hartge
Glenn English wrote: > On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 12:47 AM, Sven Hartge wrote: >> What do you mean? Just create ~/.ssh/config and put a Host statement >> like above inside it. > No prob, and will do. I'm used to ssh creating files in config > directories for me. OpenSSH never did that for config f

Re: Stretch : mount Jessie encrypted HDD via USB

2017-11-01 Thread MPhil. Emanoil Kotsev
David Wright wrote: > And one query while we're on the topic. Obviously > umount is necessary and will be noticed later if > it's not performed. However, what about vgchange -an > and locking? AFAICT failing to lock has no later > consequences for the device itself. > I don't know what you mean,

Re: buster ssh problem

2017-11-01 Thread Glenn English
On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 12:47 AM, Sven Hartge wrote: > There are. Both sides exchange a symmetric session key to use for the > connection. The public/private key which can be used with SSH has > nothing to do with this. Yeah. That what I thought it was all about -- the login keys. > What do you

Re: Another Devuan annoyance: CLI default apps

2017-11-01 Thread Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă
On 1-11-2017, at 12h 52'17", to...@tuxteam.de wrote about "Re: Another Devuan annoyance: CLI default apps" > On Wed, Nov 01, 2017 at 12:28:51PM +0100, Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > > [...] > > > What is a "Devuan"? > > Devuan is a fork of Debian, which was made because some > people were unha

Re: Stretch : mount Jessie encrypted HDD via USB

2017-11-01 Thread David Wright
On Tue 31 Oct 2017 at 21:21:01 (+0100), deloptes wrote: > commentsab...@riseup.net wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I'm trying to connect my old Jessie HDD via USB in order to transfer > > files to my new Stretch system (details below). It does not work out of > > the box because it is encrypted, how

Re: Another Devuan annoyance: CLI default apps

2017-11-01 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 01-11-17, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Wed, Nov 01, 2017 at 10:00:27AM +0100, Jochen Spieker wrote: > > deloptes: > > > > > > Indeed, thanks for the hint, however OP wanted to edit crontab, which > > > needs > > > root access. > > > > 'crontab -e' works for all users. > > A more correct w

Re: off topic: uptime question

2017-11-01 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)
> This function is made for the formatting of *dates*, not *time intervals. > > That would mean that you might get even funnier results if your uptime > is more than (around) 30-31 days. I did understand. For now my chromebook uptime is over 30 days, thanks! Sincerely, Byung-Hee. -- ^고맙습니다 _白衣從

Re: off topic: uptime question

2017-11-01 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)
In Article <17430759904711630...@scdbackup.webframe.org>, "Thomas Schmitt" writes: > [...] > (You should better compute the time interval days from the seconds > difference. %d will probably rollover at 31.) Thank you for good point, indeed;;; Sincerely, Byung-Hee. -- ^고맙습니다 _白衣從軍_ 감사합니다_^)

Re: Another Devuan annoyance: CLI default apps

2017-11-01 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Nov 01, 2017 at 12:28:51PM +0100, Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: [...] > What is a "Devuan"? Devuan [1], [2] is a fork of Debian, which was made because some people were unhappy about how Debian handled the transition to systemd as the default

Re: Another Devuan annoyance: CLI default apps

2017-11-01 Thread Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă
On 1-11-2017, at 02h 01'08", Will Mengarini wrote about "Re: Another Devuan annoyance: CLI default apps" > * Ron OLGIATI [17-10/31=Tu 19:11 -0300]: > >> [...] Devuan Jessie, I tried to use crontab [...] > >> under Devuan, crontab opens the file with nano [...] > > * deloptes [17-11/01=We 09:23

Re: Another Devuan annoyance: CLI default apps

2017-11-01 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Nov 01, 2017 at 10:00:27AM +0100, Jochen Spieker wrote: > deloptes: > > > > Indeed, thanks for the hint, however OP wanted to edit crontab, which needs > > root access. > > 'crontab -e' works for all users. A more correct way to put it is 'crontab utilizes root access'. $ l

Re: HOWTO: Setup persistent RDP sessions

2017-11-01 Thread deloptes
Hörmetjan Yiltiz wrote: > Seems like a very simple solution! Do you know if this works for RDP? And > what runs that vnc-run.sh? Is it executed upon SSH login, VNC login, or by > the admin? The vnc-run.sh is my own script To automate it, you need to modify the script starting the session on the

Re: Another Devuan annoyance: CLI default apps

2017-11-01 Thread Will Mengarini
* Ron OLGIATI [17-10/31=Tu 19:11 -0300]: >> [...] Devuan Jessie, I tried to use crontab [...] >> under Devuan, crontab opens the file with nano [...] * deloptes [17-11/01=We 09:23 +0100]: > [...] OP wanted to edit crontab, which needs root access. It seems more likely that he was talking about

Re: Another Devuan annoyance: CLI default apps

2017-11-01 Thread Jochen Spieker
deloptes: > > Indeed, thanks for the hint, however OP wanted to edit crontab, which needs > root access. 'crontab -e' works for all users. J. -- I am getting worse rather than better. [Agree] [Disagree] signature.a

Re: Another Devuan annoyance: CLI default apps

2017-11-01 Thread deloptes
Ulf Volmer wrote: > On 01.11.2017 00:00, deloptes wrote: >> Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > >>> Now under Devuan, crontab opens the file with nano, which I hate, >>> abominate, pursue with intense loathing... > >> sudo update-alternatives --config editor > > select-editor(1) is also an option (co

Re: looking for a file format for time series data other software can easily consume

2017-11-01 Thread Dan Hitt
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > On 31/10/17 19:33, Dan Hitt wrote: >> >> I plan to produce some time series data and i would like it to be in a >> form that makes it easy or effortless for pre-existing programs to >> plot or even process further. > > > NetCDF is very

Re: HOWTO: Setup persistent RDP sessions

2017-11-01 Thread Hörmetjan Yiltiz
Seems like a very simple solution! Do you know if this works for RDP? And what runs that vnc-run.sh? Is it executed upon SSH login, VNC login, or by the admin? On Tue, Oct 31, 2017, 03:27 deloptes wrote: > Hörmetjan Yiltiz wrote: > > > I would like to creates only one Xfce4 session for Alice whe