Re: debian zfs spl dkms build fails

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 09:23:52PM -0700, Russell L. Carter wrote: [...] > I don't actually care very much. I'm going to go back to > dumb extfs if required. I'm just fishing for some sanity > here. If you're fishing you better use a friendlier ba

Re: bash usage.

On 26 October 2017 at 11:39, wrote: > > According to 'man mountpoint', it returns 0 if something is mounted. > So why the complaint from > if [ mountpoint $WorkingDirectory ] ? Answered here: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls#if_.5Bgrep_foo_myfile.5D http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuid

Re: debian zfs spl dkms build fails

On 10/25/17 21:23, Russell L. Carter wrote: Greetings.  Your reply is completely nonresponsive to the zfs kernel upgrade situation as it is today on debian. Why did you bother?  It's weird. I don't actually care very much.  I'm going to go back to dumb extfs if required.  I'm just fishing for s

Re: debian zfs spl dkms build fails

Greetings. Your reply is completely nonresponsive to the zfs kernel upgrade situation as it is today on debian. Why did you bother? It's weird. I don't actually care very much. I'm going to go back to dumb extfs if required. I'm just fishing for some sanity here. Thanks, Russell On 10/25/1

Re: debian zfs spl dkms build fails

On 10/25/17 19:42, Russell L. Carter wrote: This has been happening for over 2 weeks now: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=877694 It has such cheerful effects as: root@knuth> zpool status The ZFS modules are not loaded. Try running '/sbin/modprobe zfs' as root to load them.

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

> If Debian developers who are responsible for resolvconf are reading this, > and if they actually CARE about making things work correctly and sensibly, > then here is yet another proposal: give us a way to QUICKLY and EASILY > and RELIABLY tell resolvconf "never do anything". `resolvconf` only to

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debian zfs spl dkms build fails

This has been happening for over 2 weeks now: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=877694 It has such cheerful effects as: root@knuth> zpool status The ZFS modules are not loaded. Try running '/sbin/modprobe zfs' as root to load them. The symptom displays via several ways like th

Re: bash usage.

pe...@easthope.ca writes: > PROBLEM > Given a storage device, /dev/GRN, and mount point, /home/peter/testdir/, > determine in a shell script whether /dev/GRN is mounted or something is > mounted on /home/peter/testdir/. > > ATTEMPTED SOLUTION > Create testdir and execute this script. > > #!/bin/

Re: bash usage.

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 05:39:35PM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > > According to 'man mountpoint', it returns 0 if something is mounted. > So why the complaint from > if [ mountpoint $WorkingDirectory ] ? > The return status is seen by the shell as a numeric. It is not coerced to a bo

bash usage.

PROBLEM Given a storage device, /dev/GRN, and mount point, /home/peter/testdir/, determine in a shell script whether /dev/GRN is mounted or something is mounted on /home/peter/testdir/. ATTEMPTED SOLUTION Create testdir and execute this script. #!/bin/bash # Demonstrate use of "mountpoint" in a

Re: X crashes when closing one of two running X sessions

On Tue 24 Oct 2017 at 07:31:32 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2017-10-24 at 01:40, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 2:51 PM, The Wanderer wrote: > > > >> On 2017-10-23 at 16:21, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > >> > >>> Just tried this on a different box running Fedora 25 (64) a

Re: Scanner Compatibility question

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 08:02:28PM +, J.W. Foster wrote: > I'm wondering if anyone here has used or been able to install a > scanner model: Canon - 9000F Mark II Flatbed Scanner - I personally use said model with a Debian testing box. It works perfectly, though I've never tried the 4-channel

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wed, 25 Oct 2017, Gene Heskett wrote: > Whereas my theory has always been WRT the search line, that it should > first search the /etc/hosts file for a name match, and failing that, > query my router, which is running dd-wrt which means its running > dnsmasq. This is wrong, and has been wrong fo

Re: Scanner Compatibility question

On Tue 24 Oct 2017 at 20:02:28 +, J.W. Foster wrote: > I'm wondering if anyone here has used or been able to install a > scanner model: Canon - 9000F Mark II Flatbed Scanner - BlackI am > currently trying to decide if I can use this scanner with current > debian stable.  There is not much onli

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 02:49:43PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 02:34:52PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > This only works on SOME dhcp servers, not all. > > See > > So, if I understand your post correctly,

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 02:34:52PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 02:26:35PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > OK. I was able to dig into this I resolved the problem by telling > > dhclient to not request the bits of information that would trigger a > > change to /etc/res

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wed 25 Oct 2017 at 09:38:54 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 25 October 2017 09:19:04 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:49:21AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > Perhaps you could watch the file with inotifywait, and capture > > > a ps and maybe even a lsof li

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 02:26:35PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: OK. I was able to dig into this I resolved the problem by telling dhclient to not request the bits of information that would trigger a change to /etc/resolv.conf Note that this is *not* reliable, as the server may send the inf

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 02:26:35PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > OK. I was able to dig into this I resolved the problem by telling > dhclient to not request the bits of information that would trigger a > change to /etc/resolv.conf. > request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, route

[SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:00:03AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > This is clearly evidence that the problem is with dhclient > (isc-dhcp-client in my case). I am taking another look at the supersede > directives in /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf to make sure that I am specifying > them correctly.

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 01:06:21 PM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Yeah, hey. But those were MCSEs and network pros. Or something (you aren't > in charge of ~5K client boxes, are you?) Nope--just have read too many instructions that didn't clearly delineate what was a variable / parameter vs. f

Re: X crashes when closing one of two running X sessions

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote: > On 10/24/2017 09:14 AM, David Wright wrote: >> >> On Tue 24 Oct 2017 at 08:29:50 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote: >>> >>> On 2017-10-24 at 08:15, Greg Wooledge wrote: >>> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 07:31:32AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:55:01PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 09:43:15 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > (Don't chuckle. A company I was working at did set its internal "top > > level domain" to "local". Much hilarit

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 09:43:15 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > (Don't chuckle. A company I was working at did set its internal "top > level domain" to "local". Much hilarity with zeroconf [1] ensued). And I'll bet the person that did that was following the instructions he found / was given

multiport serial card setup

>> Hi! >> I have using Brain Boxes UC-260 4xserial port card for many years on > >> Debian 6.0.10 Squeeze. Now I have build a new box with this card for >> Stretch and I recognize that old "tricks" are does not work. >> The old recipe was >> /etc/lilo.conf >> append="8250.nr_uarts=8" > > If I'm r

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wednesday 25 October 2017 11:05:28 Dan Ritter wrote: > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 07:35:35AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 24 October 2017 23:46:47 Felix Miata wrote: > > > Gene Heskett composed on 2017-10-24 22:52 (UTC-0400): > > > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 20:31:05 -0400, Gene Heske

Re: Scanner Compatibility question

On Tue, 24 Oct 2017 20:02:28 + (UTC) "J.W. Foster" wrote: > I'm wondering if anyone here has used or been able to install a > scanner model: Canon - 9000F Mark II Flatbed Scanner - BlackI am > currently trying to decide if I can use this scanner with current > debian stable.  There is not muc

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 04:01:50PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 15:43:15 +0200 > wrote: > > > > > > (Don't chuckle. A company I was working at did set its internal "top > > level domain" to "local". Much hilarity with zeroconf [1] ensued

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 07:35:35AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 24 October 2017 23:46:47 Felix Miata wrote: > > > Gene Heskett composed on 2017-10-24 22:52 (UTC-0400): > > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 20:31:05 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > >>>and made immutable. Particularly is the fact

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 15:43:15 +0200 wrote: > > (Don't chuckle. A company I was working at did set its internal "top > level domain" to "local". Much hilarity with zeroconf [1] ensued). > That was the standard recommendation for users of MS Small Business Server, who were presumed not to be run

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On 2017-10-25, wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 09:18:36AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > [...] > >> >Might be "man resolv.conf". >> >> Can't be, that man page clearly says: >> >> search Search list for host-name lookup. > > [...] > >> It certainly doesn't say anything about putting "h

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 09:24:49AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I am not willing to accept > > And what are you going to do about that? Sue us? Sue Debian Inc. ? > Whoa. Take it down a notch. Considering I am a member of the project itself it would be very counterproductive for me to to h

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 09:24:16AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > All perfectly valid points Greg. I don't know if theres a first language > barrier or what, No barrier. > but the OP has not been forthcoming with answers to the > lists questions. I don't see the need for secrecy when the list

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 09:03:07AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > I'm STILL waiting for the OP to give the most basic, fundamental details > like showing the output of lsattr /etc/resolv.conf to prove that his/her > assumptions are correct. IIRC it took two days for us to get proof that > /etc/r

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 09:18:36AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: [...] > >Might be "man resolv.conf". > > Can't be, that man page clearly says: > > search Search list for host-name lookup. [...] > It certainly doesn't say anything about putti

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wednesday 25 October 2017 09:19:04 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:49:21AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > Perhaps you could watch the file with inotifywait, and capture > > a ps and maybe even a lsof listing at that moment. > > I have both inotify-hookable and incrond wat

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

> I am not willing to accept And what are you going to do about that? Sue us? Sue Debian Inc. ? > that there is no way to identify what is going on that is causing > resolv.conf to change. BTW, maybe one way to identify the culprit is: - install resolvconf [ I know it sounds bad, but bear with

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wednesday 25 October 2017 09:03:07 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 02:42:49PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Still the open question remains: why is it being changed although > > the "immutable" attriibute was set? > > > > The OP says so, and we must believe that, [...] > > I

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 09:03:07AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: If Debian developers who are responsible for resolvconf are reading this, and if they actually CARE about making things work correctly and sensibly, then here is yet another proposal: give us a way to QUICKLY and EASILY and RELIABLY t

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 02:42:49PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Yes. Still the open question remains: why is it being changed although > the "immutable" attriibute was set? > > The OP says so, and we must believe that, but I've a hard time imagining > how that happens (whatever program is d

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 01:59:42PM +0200, Alberto Luaces wrote: Michael Stone writes: On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:16:49AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 24 October 2017 23:02:39 Michael Stone wrote: On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:52:03PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >But since its worked fla

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

>> Also the solution I showed has the advantage that when he stops his >> bind deamon, he still gets his host names resolved (via the >> DHCP-provided DNS server). > Even for shop.coyote.den? Of course: for all host names he cares to use. And obviously, his DHCP-provided DNS server will answer wi

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:49:21AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > Perhaps you could watch the file with inotifywait, and capture > a ps and maybe even a lsof listing at that moment. > I have both inotify-hookable and incrond watching the file and the output of `lsof /etc/resolv.conf` and `ps -ef`

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 09:03:07AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > P.S. All this talk about "mobile devices are the new normal, so we have > to make everything 20 times as complicated, even for unmoving workstations > and servers" can go screw it

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:42:24AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I just gave you a solution to your underlying problem, which *uses* the > infrastructure rather than fighting it. I won't force you to use it, tho. > Actually, that is not what you did. You provided a way to mask the problem.

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 02:42:49PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Still the open question remains: why is it being changed although > the "immutable" attriibute was set? > > The OP says so, and we must believe that, [...] I'm STILL waiting for the OP to give the most basic, fundamental details

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 08:51:55AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Yes. Still the open question remains: why is it being changed although > > the "immutable" attriibute was set? > > I'm not sufficiently familiar with the "immutable" attribute to answ

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wednesday 25 October 2017 08:35:56 Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> I just gave you a solution to your underlying problem, which *uses* > >> the infrastructure rather than fighting it. I won't force you to > >> use it, tho. > > > > I thought the canonical method which was discussed in the > > Depend

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 14:16:38 +0200 wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 01:06:37PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 07:35:35 -0400 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Whereas my theory has always been WRT the search line, tha

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

> Yes. Still the open question remains: why is it being changed although > the "immutable" attriibute was set? I'm not sufficiently familiar with the "immutable" attribute to answer that, sorry. Stefan

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

Le quartidi 4 brumaire, an CCXXVI, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > If I give an > FQDN (e.g. duckduckgo.com), the dots in the host name tell the resolver > to bypass the search list. You are wrong on this particular point. If the host name contains

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 08:35:56AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> I just gave you a solution to your underlying problem, which *uses* the > >> infrastructure rather than fighting it. I won't force you to use it, tho. > > I thought the canonical met

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

>> I just gave you a solution to your underlying problem, which *uses* the >> infrastructure rather than fighting it. I won't force you to use it, tho. > I thought the canonical method which was discussed in the Depends on "method to do what?". A static resolv.conf is basically a concept from th

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 02:11:21PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote: > Le quartidi 4 brumaire, an CCXXVI, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : > > If I give an > > FQDN (e.g. duckduckgo.com), the dots in the host name

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 01:06:37PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 07:35:35 -0400 > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > Whereas my theory has always been WRT the search line, that it should > > first search the /etc/hosts file for a name matc

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wednesday 25 October 2017 07:36:54 Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:16:49AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >On Tuesday 24 October 2017 23:02:39 Michael Stone wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:52:03PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> >But since its worked flawlessly for years,

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 07:35:35 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > > Whereas my theory has always been WRT the search line, that it should > first search the /etc/hosts file for a name match, and failing that, > query my router, which is running dd-wrt which means its running > dnsmasq. > Yes, but

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

Michael Stone writes: > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:16:49AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >>On Tuesday 24 October 2017 23:02:39 Michael Stone wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:52:03PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> >But since its worked flawlessly for years, please explain what IS >>> > wrong w

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 07:35:35AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 24 October 2017 23:46:47 Felix Miata wrote: > > > Gene Heskett composed on 2017-10-24 22:52 (UTC-0400): > > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 20:31:05 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > >

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:16:49AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 24 October 2017 23:02:39 Michael Stone wrote: On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:52:03PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >But since its worked flawlessly for years, please explain what IS > wrong with it. We've been over this before.

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Tuesday 24 October 2017 23:46:47 Felix Miata wrote: > Gene Heskett composed on 2017-10-24 22:52 (UTC-0400): > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 20:31:05 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >>>and made immutable. Particularly is the fact that /etc/resolv.conf > >>> isn't a link to something else but contains:

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 11:46:47PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: 2-My lines 1 are always the search lines, each starting with the word "search", followed by domain(s) to be searched, e.g. "search mylan.net coyote.den someother.biz" [...] 4-I have no lines starting with string "domain", but as a res

Re: keyboard_shortcut

mala...@elude.in writes: > how can i check the shortcut (default) ? > e.g. [browser : www] does not work but [browser : firefox] does ; btw why > have i 2 versions : firefox & firefox-esr ? > & crtl+alt+t does not start the terminal but [run command prompt : alt+f2] > works. In Gnome, try going