Re: If no enforcement takes place between two parties (GPL) Was: Re: Why does no one care that Brad Spengler of GRSecurity is blatantly violating the intention of the rightsholders to the Linux Kernel

2017-07-14 Thread Bruce Perens
OK, I apologize to all who were involved in this conversation. I will block further emails from "aconcernedfossdev" and no longer encourage him. Bruce On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 9:24 PM, wrote: > These are simply counterpoints the defense would likely contend and one > should be prepared for

Re: Why does no one care that Brad Spengler of GRSecurity is blatantly violating the intention of the rightsholders to the Linux Kernel?

2017-07-14 Thread Joel Rees
On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 7:12 AM, deloptes wrote: > Richard Stallman wrote: I don't think you should assume RMS is monitoring the debian list. >> I am not trying to study the GRsecurity case because (0) it's >> complicated, and it would take a lot of time to think about, (1) the >> FSF has no say

strange behaviour after upgrading from Jessie to Stretch

2017-07-14 Thread Gary Dale
My "server" is a bit of an antique. It's a Gigabyte MA790GP-UD4H with a Phenom II 940 processor, an SSD and 4 2T drives in a RAID 6 array plus 8G of DDR2 ram. A while back I found it necessary to add a Vantec PCIe SATA 6Gbps card with 2 internal SATA ports after ports 4 & 5 on the motherboard

Re: If no enforcement takes place between two parties (GPL) Was: Re: Why does no one care that Brad Spengler of GRSecurity is blatantly violating the intention of the rightsholders to the Linux Kernel

2017-07-14 Thread Bruce Perens
Well, you are confusing civil and criminal law. I assure you winning a laches defense is no sure thing, nor does it necessarily win the entire case, it is more likely to only limit the period of the offense for which the plaintiff may seek damages. And being a passive participant in Linus discussi

Re: If no enforcement takes place between two parties (GPL) Was: Re: Why does no one care that Brad Spengler of GRSecurity is blatantly violating the intention of the rightsholders to the Linux Kernel

2017-07-14 Thread Bruce Perens
A laches might be created if all of the rights holders actually had the capability to enforce and were refraining from doing so. But they are restrained by finances. So, I don't believe there is any laches.

Re: If no enforcement takes place between two parties (GPL) Was: Re: Why does no one care that Brad Spengler of GRSecurity is blatantly violating the intention of the rightsholders to the Linux Kernel

2017-07-14 Thread Bruce Perens
Bradley is uncomfortable with your (not mine) cc list. You should drop him from the next message. Things are different for a collective work. I don't believe Linus can represent the desires of all copyright holders.

Re: systemd & postgresql - flooding system log

2017-07-14 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 14 Jul 2017, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > Don Armstrong: > > Something like this (untested) > > When you do test it (-: you will discover the rather drastic > side-effect on all of the repeated SSH logins of suddenly running them > in a completely different control group with comple

Re: systemd & postgresql - flooding system log

2017-07-14 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 15.07.2017 um 00:07 schrieb Don Armstrong: > This plugin is horribly designed, and runs su - $DBUSER -c [...] for its > functioning. Indeed. > It should instead just su $DBUSER -c [...]; or better yet, not actually > su to the database user, and instead run as a user which only has the > abili

Re: systemd & postgresql - flooding system log

2017-07-14 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 08 Jul 2017, Václav Ovsík wrote: > On Fri, Jul 07, 2017 at 10:34:20PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > >... > > You create 19 PAM sessions for the postgres user per minute. What > > exactly are you doing here? > > This morning refreshed my mind :) > I completely forget about monitoring of th

systemd & postgresql - flooding system log

2017-07-14 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Don Armstrong: > Something like this (untested) When you do test it (-: you will discover the rather drastic side-effect on all of the repeated SSH logins of suddenly running them in a completely different control group with completely different settings. The systemd PAM hook does quite a lot of

Samba updates in Debian 9 and in Debian 8 security updates

2017-07-14 Thread j . deboynepollard-newsgroups
For those who were hit by this as I was. Samba is being updated in Debian 9 and the Debian 8 security backports because of a recently disclosed bug in Heimdal (a Kerberos implementation) that affects Samba. The Debian bug where you can read more about this is #868209, and the Heimdal bug is CVE-2

Re: Samba security updates held back on Jessie server

2017-07-14 Thread Jason Wittlin-Cohen
Fixed packages have been uploaded for Jessie and Stretch. On Jul 14, 2017 12:16 PM, "Jason Cohen" wrote: > You might want to forward this to 868...@bugs.debian.org. I reported the > issue I found and received a reply indicating that they are building new > packages but I'm not sure if these iss

Gateway disappears on IPv6

2017-07-14 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Rainer Dorsch: > for me it looks a little weird that IPv4 gets configured via dhcp and IPv6 is > a static configuration It's not, though. Do not fall into the trap of thinking that because you've had ubiquitous NAT, stateful DHCP, and the like for IP version 4 that this carries over into IP ver

Re: systemd & postgresql - flooding system log

2017-07-14 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 14 Jul 2017, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > There's no way to actually turn the per-user instance off, for > accounts that should *never* have per-user service managers. Something like this (untested) in /etc/pam/common-session would do the trick: session [success=2 default=ignore] pa

Re: jesse->stretch for DYMO label printer

2017-07-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 14 July 2017 16:13:14 Brian wrote: > On Fri 14 Jul 2017 at 15:36:40 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 14 July 2017 13:09:00 Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > > > What is "a printer dialog"? What application? I have an alias > > > "label" that does "lpr -P label -o orientation-request

systemd & postgresql - flooding system log

2017-07-14 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Václav Ovsík: > How I should get rid of this session management the right way? I have seen this systemd problem myself. What is happening is that every time something SSHes in as user postgres, systemd-logind is starting up a per-user instance of systemd along with with a whole bunch of per-user

Re: Why does no one care that Brad Spengler of GRSecurity is blatantly violating the intention of the rightsholders to the Linux Kernel?

2017-07-14 Thread Bruce Perens
Hi Bradley, I was proceeding after others in the community had already made contact and were rebuffed. I have definitely looked at the principles of GPL-oriented enforcement that SFC is currently distributing. I have some issues with your current policy. Let's discuss the policy of forgiveness o

Re: jesse->stretch for DYMO label printer

2017-07-14 Thread Brian
On Fri 14 Jul 2017 at 15:36:40 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 14 July 2017 13:09:00 Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > > > What is "a printer dialog"? What application? I have an alias "label" > > that does "lpr -P label -o orientation-requested=5", and I print like > > this: > > > This is a

Re: jesse->stretch for DYMO label printer

2017-07-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 14 July 2017 13:09:00 Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > On 14-07-2017, at 17h 22'40", Brian wrote about "Re: jesse->stretch > for DYMO label printer" > > > On Fri 14 Jul 2017 at 16:26:30 +0200, Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > > > After jesse -> stretch upgrade my DYMO label printer is using

Re: Why does no one care that Brad Spengler of GRSecurity is blatantly violating the intention of the rightsholders to the Linux Kernel?

2017-07-14 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
[ I'm not on debian-user regularly but I was dragged into the thread by a large cc list that Bruce started. Removing individual email addresses of possible non-list members, other than Bruce. ] Bruce, if you haven't looked at the Principles of of Community-Oriented Enforcement

Re: ideas for linked in?

2017-07-14 Thread Karen Lewellen
In order to o get the garbled stuff in links, you would need to try logging into an account if you have one. Indeed otherwise its alternates that lead nowhere. Kare On Fri, 14 Jul 2017, Kent West wrote: On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 12:39 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi everyone, Is anyone successfu

Re: jesse->stretch for DYMO label printer

2017-07-14 Thread Brian
On Fri 14 Jul 2017 at 19:09:00 +0200, Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > On 14-07-2017, at 17h 22'40", Brian wrote about "Re: jesse->stretch for DYMO > label printer" > > On Fri 14 Jul 2017 at 16:26:30 +0200, Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > > > > > After jesse -> stretch upgrade my DYMO label printer

Re: ideas for linked in?

2017-07-14 Thread Kent West
On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 12:39 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi everyone, > Is anyone successfully using the linkedin site in either lynx, links, or > e-links since the changes? > While I have a discussion going with their accessibility staff person, I > would really like to get past all the garble

ideas for linked in?

2017-07-14 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi everyone, Is anyone successfully using the linkedin site in either lynx, links, or e-links since the changes? While I have a discussion going with their accessibility staff person, I would really like to get past all the garbled text I am getting. My guess is perhaps? a character set thing,

Stretch and Samba (since yesterday)

2017-07-14 Thread tony mollica
Hi. Did an update that indicated there were about 10 new samba related packages but when I tried the upgrade all of those packages are held back. It appears they're all security related going from 2:4.5.8+dfsg-2 to 2:4.5.8+dfsg-2+deb9u1 but they won't install. What's gone on since yesterday

Re: jesse->stretch for DYMO label printer

2017-07-14 Thread Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă
On 14-07-2017, at 17h 22'40", Brian wrote about "Re: jesse->stretch for DYMO label printer" > On Fri 14 Jul 2017 at 16:26:30 +0200, Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > > > After jesse -> stretch upgrade my DYMO label printer is using a > > different font. Before I could fit 6 lines on a label, each li

Re: jesse->stretch for DYMO label printer

2017-07-14 Thread Brian
On Fri 14 Jul 2017 at 16:26:30 +0200, Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă wrote: > Hi All, > > After jesse -> stretch upgrade my DYMO label printer is using a > different font. Before I could fit 6 lines on a label, each line with > 18 characters. Knowing the printer model is always useful. > Now it fits on

Re: Samba security updates held back on Jessie server

2017-07-14 Thread Jason Cohen
You might want to forward this to 868...@bugs.debian.org. I reported the issue I found and received a reply indicating that they are building new packages but I'm not sure if these issues were also caught. On 07/14/2017 12:13 PM, Guy Marcenac wrote: > Le 14/07/2017 à 16:40, Jason Cohen a écrit :

Re: Samba security updates held back on Jessie server

2017-07-14 Thread Guy Marcenac
Le 14/07/2017 à 16:40, Jason Cohen a écrit : Yup, the issue appears to be that python-samba requires python-talloc 2.1.6 and only 2.1.2 is available in Jessie. This was probably a typo. The prior python-samba package only required 2.0.6. I've reported this to the bug tracker. hi, It lo

Updated Informix users list.

2017-07-14 Thread helene . turner
Hi,   Do you have new projects coming up in this quarter? We have updated our list of Informix users and have added new contacts to our list. The best way to popularize your product is through email campaign.   We also have other technology users lists like Sybase, Oracle Corporation, Informat

Re: Samba security updates held back on Jessie server

2017-07-14 Thread Jason Cohen
Yup, the issue appears to be that python-samba requires python-talloc 2.1.6 and only 2.1.2 is available in Jessie. This was probably a typo. The prior python-samba package only required 2.0.6. I've reported this to the bug tracker. jason@storage-server:~$ apt show python-samba -a Package: pytho

jesse->stretch for DYMO label printer

2017-07-14 Thread Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă
Hi All, After jesse -> stretch upgrade my DYMO label printer is using a different font. Before I could fit 6 lines on a label, each line with 18 characters. Now it fits only 5 and a half lines and 16.25 characters in a funny way. The first 3.25 characters do not show up, only the following ones.

Samba security updates held back on Jessie server

2017-07-14 Thread Jason Cohen
Hello everyone, I attempted to update my Jessie server this morning after seeing the Samba DSA. However, it appears that there are unmet dependencies that are causing several of the samba packages to be held back. Anyone seeing this or know of a resolution? 12 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt

Re: Ik moet je vragen om dit te beoordelen, omdat anderen zeggen dat ik fout ben. Elli

2017-07-14 Thread tsc61509
Hello, Someone in Belgium has sent this "fake mail" to my address. When looking at the origin of this address I can see that someone has "hacked" your email address and is using it under . Could you please see to it that this does not happen again. Fri, 14 Jul 2017 11:09:54 -,

Re: How to use Garmin Connect with Debian 7?

2017-07-14 Thread rhkramer
> Am 13.07.17 12:13 nachm., schrieb Jörg-Volker Peetz: > >there's this nice blog in German: > >https://blog.dafb-o.de/neue-firmware-fuer-garmin-devices-unter-linux/ > >where the firmware update procedure from Linux is detailed and a link to > >the firmware files for your device is given http://gawi

Re: PulseAudio (Some users get sound, orthers do not)

2017-07-14 Thread Wellington Terumi Uemura
Some error related. Try to create another user and see if this user has sound or not, if it has you can migrate the account so you avoid all this mess. Em 13/07/2017 17:57, Marc Shapiro escreveu: > What should I be looking for in the logs? I did not see anything that > looked relevant in dmesg.

Re: madam scrubbing?

2017-07-14 Thread Boyan Penkov
Hey Dan, After a not-insignificant delay, I played around with this (now my postfix sends mail to my gmail), and I wanted to think you for the pointer here. FWIW, about the only strange thing is that I cannot specify “root” or “boyan” directly in the MAILADDR, I have to specify my email address

Re: PulseAudio (Some users get sound, orthers do not)

2017-07-14 Thread Curt
On 2017-07-09, Marc Shapiro wrote: > At some point in the past I was having sound issues which I traced to > pulseaudio. I uninstalled pulseaudio and everything was fine. Then > Firefox decided to require pulseaudio and my sound (in Firefox) went away. > > I reinstalled pulseaudio and eventual

Re: Laptop hangs after wake up in stretch

2017-07-14 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 01:42:01AM +0200, Tobias Bengfort wrote: Hi, since updating to stretch I have a weird issue with my Lenovo X201 laptop: Sometimes when waking up from suspend it "hangs". The symptoms are somewhat strange: - All open programs still work fine. - I can open a new tab inside