Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

2017-03-20 Thread Catherine Gramze
> On Mar 20, 2017, at 10:02 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Tuesday 21 March 2017 00:19:52 Catherine Gramze wrote: >>> On Mar 20, 2017, at 7:51 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote >> > What I was asking is where you yourself have encountered it recently, not in > what circumstances you believe it to be true. >

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-20 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 20 March 2017 23:03:29 Brian wrote: > [1] I've given up on "agenda"; but not on "data". The World will > eventually see the error of its ways. Brian, I squirmed. "Data is" ... I can just about handle. I CANNOT (yes, I can shout too!) handle "agenda is". Agenda are always more tha

Re: claws-mail sending failure

2017-03-20 Thread David Wright
On Sat 18 Mar 2017 at 16:48:27 (-0500), Charles E. Blair wrote: >Thanks very much for your reply. > >I have an older machine running claws-mail 3.8.1 > and a newer machine running 3.11.1. Some but not > all correspondents stopped being able to receive > messages from my 3.8.1 machine, whi

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

2017-03-20 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 21 March 2017 00:38:36 Richard Owlett wrote: > With the installer from DVD 1 of 13 the first option in taskel is for > choosing to have a desktop - the default is yes. Thanks, Richard! This is as I expected - the default is to have a desktop. I must find a machine on which I can safe

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

2017-03-20 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 21 March 2017 00:19:52 Catherine Gramze wrote: > > On Mar 20, 2017, at 7:51 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > That sounds as though it is the message that is at fault, not the > > installer or installation method. It should perhaps mention that you > > have to carry on to get a desktop. I

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-20 Thread David Wright
On Mon 20 Mar 2017 at 23:03:29 (+), Brian wrote: > On Sun 19 Mar 2017 at 23:25:47 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > On Sun 19 Mar 2017 at 08:50:55 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > > > On 03/19/2017 08:08 AM, David Wright wrote: > > > >[snip ;] > > > > > > > >How's the other research coming alon

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

2017-03-20 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/20/2017 06:48 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 20 March 2017 20:29:31 Richard Owlett wrote: On 03/20/2017 03:06 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 20 March 2017 09:46:45 Jonathan Dowland wrote: I don't have an installation image locally to test this as I write, but your messages indicate tha

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

2017-03-20 Thread Catherine Gramze
> On Mar 20, 2017, at 7:51 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > That sounds as though it is the message that is at fault, not the installer > or > installation method. It should perhaps mention that you have to carry on to > get a desktop. Is this in the set of DVDs? > > Lisi > I have not done a dvd

Re: TTL expired in transit to qemu virtual machine.

2017-03-20 Thread davidson
On Mon, 20 Mar 2017, Mimiko wrote: On 18.03.2017 07:22, Igor Cicimov wrote: >uname -a Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.84-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux That's an really old kernel, I don't start anything virtual these days without at least 3.13.x kernel. I regularly do apt-get upgrade, but

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

2017-03-20 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 20 March 2017 20:54:29 Catherine Gramze wrote: > the misleading message that your base installation is complete and the > system will now reboot to Linux. You can't blame some beginners for > believing the installation is complete! That sounds as though it is the message that is at fault

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

2017-03-20 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 20 March 2017 20:29:31 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/20/2017 03:06 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 20 March 2017 09:46:45 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >> I don't have an installation image locally to test this as I write, but > >> your messages indicate that the graphical desktop options

Re: Memory Upgrade for Ancient Enspiron 2600

2017-03-20 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, March 20, 2017 01:52:16 PM Curt wrote: > On 2017-03-20, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > >>* 1 GB HDD ~$50 > > > > You're being ripped off for that size HDD! > > I think some zeros got lost in that gauzy electronic region between > the sender and the sendee. > > Or maybe a T.

Re: Memory Upgrade for Ancient Enspiron 2600

2017-03-20 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, March 20, 2017 01:19:54 PM cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 04:38:19PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > >* 8 MB RAM $40 to $50 > >* 1 GB HDD ~$50 > > You're being ripped off for that size HDD! Prices change--I haven't bought an HDD or any RAM in

Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?

2017-03-20 Thread Brian
On Sun 19 Mar 2017 at 23:25:47 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 19 Mar 2017 at 08:50:55 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > > On 03/19/2017 08:08 AM, David Wright wrote: > > >[snip ;] > > > > > >How's the other research coming along? > > >Did you see if there were files whose timestamps change? >

Re: No sound in Firefox

2017-03-20 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 03/20/2017 03:16 PM, songbird wrote: Marc Shapiro wrote: I recently upgraded my Firefox to v52 and immediately lost all sound in Firefox. Apparently Firefox now requires PulseAudio, which I had previously uninstalled due to issues which I no longer remember. I tried installing PulseAudio, b

Re: No sound in Firefox

2017-03-20 Thread songbird
Marc Shapiro wrote: > I recently upgraded my Firefox to v52 and immediately lost all sound in > Firefox. Apparently Firefox now requires PulseAudio, which I had > previously uninstalled due to issues which I no longer remember. I > tried installing PulseAudio, but still no sound in Firefox. A

Re: Need to upgrade claws-mail on debian 7.1

2017-03-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 19:44:40 + Joe wrote: > On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 09:13:11 -0700 > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 04:47:50 + "Blair, Charles E III" > > wrote: > > > > >I am using debian 7.11, which includes version > > > 3.8.1 of claws-mail. I have recently been ha

Re: Are there different Installer Packages between Server and Desktop?

2017-03-20 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 08:38:59PM +, Brian wrote: > On Mon 20 Mar 2017 at 11:27:50 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > The differentiation in "server" and "desktop" only really made sense > > for commercial vendors, as a device to extract as muc

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

2017-03-20 Thread Catherine Gramze
> On Mar 20, 2017, at 4:29 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> On 03/20/2017 03:06 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: >>> On Monday 20 March 2017 09:46:45 Jonathan Dowland wrote: >>> I don't have an installation image locally to test this as I write, but >>> your messages indicate that the graphical desktop optio

Re: No sound in Firefox

2017-03-20 Thread Nicolas George
Le decadi 30 ventôse, an CCXXV, Marc Shapiro a écrit : > I recently upgraded my Firefox to v52 and immediately lost all sound in > Firefox. Apparently Firefox now requires PulseAudio, which I had previously > uninstalled due to issues which I no longer remember. I tried installing > PulseAudio, b

Re: No sound in Firefox

2017-03-20 Thread Václav Ovsík
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 01:53:04PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > I recently upgraded my Firefox to v52 and immediately lost all sound in > Firefox. Apparently Firefox now requires PulseAudio, which I had previously > uninstalled due to issues which I no longer remember. I tried installing > PulseA

No sound in Firefox

2017-03-20 Thread Marc Shapiro
I recently upgraded my Firefox to v52 and immediately lost all sound in Firefox. Apparently Firefox now requires PulseAudio, which I had previously uninstalled due to issues which I no longer remember. I tried installing PulseAudio, but still no sound in Firefox. Also, no sound anywhere else

Re: Are there different Installer Packages between Server and Desktop?

2017-03-20 Thread Brian
On Mon 20 Mar 2017 at 11:27:50 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > The differentiation in "server" and "desktop" only really made sense > for commercial vendors, as a device to extract as much money as > possible from their customers. For a free operating system this > device doesn't make that much s

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

2017-03-20 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/20/2017 03:06 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 20 March 2017 09:46:45 Jonathan Dowland wrote: I don't have an installation image locally to test this as I write, but your messages indicate that the graphical desktop options are by default not selected in the installer, regardless of which i

Re: Re: Wifi Drivers still not recognized by Debian, even when using Netinst

2017-03-20 Thread Brian
On Sun 19 Mar 2017 at 17:50:50 -0700, Dean wrote: > Thank you for your guys' help. I assumed that meant I had to download and > install the packages manually after installing through the live CD and went > that route. More or less. You only need firmware-atheros. You can get it through activating

Re: installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

2017-03-20 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 20 March 2017 09:46:45 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I don't have an installation image locally to test this as I write, but > your messages indicate that the graphical desktop options are by default > not selected in the installer, regardless of which installation medium > (netinst, CD, DVD)

Re: Need to upgrade claws-mail on debian 7.1

2017-03-20 Thread Joe
On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 09:13:11 -0700 Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 04:47:50 + "Blair, Charles E III" > wrote: > > >I am using debian 7.11, which includes version > > 3.8.1 of claws-mail. I have recently been having > > problems with this, and have been advised that I > > ne

[SOLVED] Re: [debian/stretch] problems playing zipped midi file on console

2017-03-20 Thread Ennio-Sr
* Ennio-Sr [130317, 17:21]: > [Duplicates a post to _debian/italian@..._] > > However, when I try to play a zipped midi file (from within _lynx_) the > two PCs behave differently: one plays it using timidity, whereas the > other asks to Download or Cancel the file. > Just for future on-lookers

Re: `Filter failed' no print error message

2017-03-20 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Brian writes: > Post the output of 'ls -l /usr/lib/cups/filter'. Here it is: $ ls -l /usr/lib/cups/filter total 1332 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 43168 Jan 19 13:44 bannertopdf -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1907 Jan 19 13:44 brftoembosser -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 10480 Feb 16 2016 commandtocanon -rwxr-xr

Re: Memory Upgrade for Ancient Enspiron 2600

2017-03-20 Thread Curt
On 2017-03-20, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: >>* 1 GB HDD ~$50 > > You're being ripped off for that size HDD! > I think some zeros got lost in that gauzy electronic region between the sender and the sendee. Or maybe a T. -- "It might be a vision--of a shell, of a wheelbarrow, of a fa

Re: Memory Upgrade for Ancient Enspiron 2600

2017-03-20 Thread cbannister
On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 04:38:19PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, January 18, 2017 04:08:09 PM Doug wrote: > > Whether or not this is all economically worth while, or you should throw > > the machine out and buy a new one is up to you. > > I typically build replacement computers

Re: Need to upgrade claws-mail on debian 7.1

2017-03-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 04:47:50 + "Blair, Charles E III" wrote: >I am using debian 7.11, which includes version > 3.8.1 of claws-mail. I have recently been having > problems with this, and have been advised that I > need to upgrade to 3.11.1. It didn't seem possible > to do this with aptit

Re: Getting clock_gettime() with CLOCK_TAI to give the right answer

2017-03-20 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017, at 08:09, Edmund Grimley Evans wrote: > What's the easiest way of getting a Debian system to know about the > offset between TAI and UTC? > > Presumably something like what's described here for SUSE would work: > > https://superuser.com/questions/1156693/is-there-a-way-of-ge

Re: problems after installing Debian

2017-03-20 Thread rhkramer
I'm not the OP, but: good / helpful post--thanks! On Monday, March 20, 2017 05:15:19 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 08:52:14PM -0500, Michael Milliman wrote: > > [...] > > > As an addendum to my previous post on this topic, the reason this > > library is not included in the

Re: [Stable] Trouble with openvpn

2017-03-20 Thread Paul Wise
Try looking at the openvpn logs or systemd journal while you start openvpn via the three different methods. If you compare the logs, you might get a hint about what is happening. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

Re: Need to upgrade claws-mail on debian 7.1

2017-03-20 Thread francesco scaglione
On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 04:47:50 + "Blair, Charles E III" wrote: >I am using debian 7.11, which includes version > 3.8.1 of claws-mail. I have recently been having > problems with this, and have been advised that I > need to upgrade to 3.11.1. It didn't seem possible > to do this with aptit

Re: Are there different Installer Packages between Server and Desktop?

2017-03-20 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 10:10:16AM +0100, aorlikow...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hello > > I'm interested in installing Debia _SERVER_, not Desktop, but on your > Website, there is just offering Debian. > > Are there different Installer Packages between S

Re: Are there different Installer Packages between Server and Desktop?

2017-03-20 Thread DdB
Hello Achim, Desktop or Server? Is a photo without colors black OR white? Language can be misleading at times. I reckon, your expectation might come from the Ubuntu world, as they are in fact offering somthing more preconfigured, that lacks the flexibility to match users needs as finegrained as d

Re: Are there different Installer Packages between Server and Desktop?

2017-03-20 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 10:10:16AM +0100, aorlikow...@gmail.com wrote: > I'm interested in installing Debia _SERVER_, not Desktop, but on your > Website, there is just offering Debian. > > Are there different Installer Packages between Server and Desktop? If > the SERVER package different where ca

Re: Are there different Installer Packages between Server and Desktop?

2017-03-20 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 20-03-17, aorlikow...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hello > > I'm interested in installing Debia _SERVER_, not Desktop, but on your > Website, there is just offering Debian. > > Are there different Installer Packages between Server and Desktop? If > the SERVER package different where can I get it. Wha

Re: Suggested edit

2017-03-20 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 04:57:19PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 17 March 2017 16:45:31 Catherine Gramze wrote: > > It is more important to not intimidate the beginner. > > Not, it isn't. Debian is for experts, or would-be experts, or those who will > never be experts but like to pretend

installer defaults for desktops (was Re: Suggested edit)

2017-03-20 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 11:18:57AM -0400, Catherine Gramze wrote: > Cc: Jonathan Dowland Please do not mail me directly, I am subscribed to the list. I put this prominently in my email signature. I also set Mail-Followup-To (MFT[1]) accordingly. Consider switching to a mailer that supports MFT (

Are there different Installer Packages between Server and Desktop?

2017-03-20 Thread aorlikow...@gmail.com
Hello I'm interested in installing Debia _SERVER_, not Desktop, but on your Website, there is just offering Debian. Are there different Installer Packages between Server and Desktop? If the SERVER package different where can I get it. What is the Internet link? It would be helpful when you ment

Re: problems after installing Debian

2017-03-20 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 08:52:14PM -0500, Michael Milliman wrote: [...] > As an addendum to my previous post on this topic, the reason this > library is not included in the Debian repositories is that there are > legal issues in some jurisdictions as

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QEMU doesn't open?

2017-03-20 Thread Fjfj109
More to the point, QEMU (more specifically, QtEmu) itself does open, but when I try to open a virtual machine, nothing happens. I use an ISO for the cd rom option and set it to boot from CD-ROM; surveying the various options is giving me no luck as to how to solve this