Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso

2017-03-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > > I used dd if=/dev/sdb of=usbfilename.iso > > The resulting image was the full size of the disk. That's the job of dd: Copying block by block. As David stated, the file usbfilename.iso will not be an ISO 9660 filesystem but rather a disk image. David Christensen wrot

Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso

2017-03-06 Thread David Christensen
On 03/06/2017 09:05 PM, David Christensen wrote: If you have an SSD, fstrim(8) will discard all unused blocks, regardless of file system. They should then read as zeros: https://manpages.debian.org/jessie/util-linux/fstrim.8.en.html I should qualify that: If you have an SSD, fstrim(8) wi

Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso

2017-03-06 Thread David Christensen
On 03/06/2017 04:11 PM, GiaThnYgeia wrote: I am not very confident I am doing this right and it seems wrong, I can't locate any documentation that results into proper options. I tried backing up an 8gb USB that has 2 partitions in it, one had 1.7gb of data on it. I used dd if=/dev/sdb of=usbfile

Re: procmail, when were the last rights administered?

2017-03-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 06 March 2017 21:54:26 Andy Smith wrote: > On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 02:47:42AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 09:29:37PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > And what replaces it in the MTA dept? > > Oh, and procmail is not an MTA (and neither is maildrop…), but more > c

Re: procmail, when were the last rights administered?

2017-03-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 06 March 2017 21:47:42 Andy Smith wrote: > Hi Gene, > > On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 09:29:37PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > And what replaces it in the MTA dept? > > procmail is still in Debian stretch and if it still works for you > then it should continue to work for you. > I wanted to a

Re: procmail, when were the last rights administered?

2017-03-06 Thread Andy Smith
On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 02:47:42AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 09:29:37PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > > And what replaces it in the MTA dept? Oh, and procmail is not an MTA (and neither is maildrop…), but more correctly a Mail Delivery Agent, but I got what you meant. Siev

Re: procmail, when were the last rights administered?

2017-03-06 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Gene, On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 09:29:37PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > And what replaces it in the MTA dept? procmail is still in Debian stretch and if it still works for you then it should continue to work for you. More modern alternatives include Sieve: http://sieve.info/clients and ma

procmail, when were the last rights administered?

2017-03-06 Thread Gene Heskett
And what replaces it in the MTA dept? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page

Re: Failing disk advice

2017-03-06 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 12:17:03PM +0100, Mirko Parthey wrote: > On Sun, Mar 05, 2017 at 08:38:27PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > > On 03/05/2017 01:02 PM, Gregory Seidman wrote: > > >I have a disk that is reporting SMART errors. It is an active disk in > > >a (kernel, not hardware) RAID1 confi

Re: Some help with dd backing up into an iso

2017-03-06 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Tue, 07 Mar 2017 00:11:00 + GiaThnYgeia wrote: > I am not very confident I am doing this right and it seems wrong, I > can't locate any documentation that results into proper options. > I tried backing up an 8gb USB that has 2 partitions in it, one had 1.7gb > of data on it. > I used

Some help with dd backing up into an iso

2017-03-06 Thread GiaThnYgeia
I am not very confident I am doing this right and it seems wrong, I can't locate any documentation that results into proper options. I tried backing up an 8gb USB that has 2 partitions in it, one had 1.7gb of data on it. I used dd if=/dev/sdb of=usbfilename.iso The resulting image was the full siz

Re: No network and update notifications on Gnome desktop

2017-03-06 Thread Stephen Allen
On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 07:53:57PM +0200, Mika Hanhijärvi wrote: > Hi > > I am using Debian Stretch on both of my laptops. I use Gnome desktop. I have > installedd all updates available. > > For some reason I do not get any network notifications. If I e.g connect to > wifi network, disconnect fro

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Security hole in LXDE?

2017-03-06 Thread Joe
On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 20:47:50 + (UTC) Curt wrote: > On 2017-03-06, Joe wrote: > > > > Who said anything about lpadmin? The question is about the wisdom of > > automatically including someone in the sudo group, which in a > > default Debian sudoers file, gives full root privileges to > > everyt

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Security hole in LXDE?

2017-03-06 Thread Brian
On Mon 06 Mar 2017 at 19:57:25 +, Joe wrote: > On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 19:36:40 + > Brian wrote: > > > On Mon 06 Mar 2017 at 18:59:18 +, Joe wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 13:40:45 -0500 > > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 06:31:46PM +, Joe wrote

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Security hole in LXDE?

2017-03-06 Thread Curt
On 2017-03-06, Joe wrote: > > Who said anything about lpadmin? The question is about the wisdom of > automatically including someone in the sudo group, which in a default > Debian sudoers file, gives full root privileges to everything, using the > user's password. > > We have someone saying this h

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Security hole in LXDE?

2017-03-06 Thread Joe
On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 19:36:40 + Brian wrote: > On Mon 06 Mar 2017 at 18:59:18 +, Joe wrote: > > > On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 13:40:45 -0500 > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 06:31:46PM +, Joe wrote: > > > > Debian appears to use the group 'sudo' as an administrat

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Security hole in LXDE?

2017-03-06 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Greg Wooledge: > On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 06:31:46PM +, Joe wrote: >> Debian appears to use the group 'sudo' as an administrative group, >> where some other distributions use 'wheel'. >> >> I would not have thought that users would be added to it by default, >> there are no members on my sid/xfc

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Security hole in LXDE?

2017-03-06 Thread Brian
On Mon 06 Mar 2017 at 18:59:18 +, Joe wrote: > On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 13:40:45 -0500 > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 06:31:46PM +, Joe wrote: > > > Debian appears to use the group 'sudo' as an administrative group, > > > where some other distributions use 'wheel'. > > >

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Security hole in LXDE?

2017-03-06 Thread Joe
On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 13:40:45 -0500 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 06:31:46PM +, Joe wrote: > > Debian appears to use the group 'sudo' as an administrative group, > > where some other distributions use 'wheel'. > > > > I would not have thought that users would be added to it by

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Security hole in LXDE?

2017-03-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 06:31:46PM +, Joe wrote: > Debian appears to use the group 'sudo' as an administrative group, > where some other distributions use 'wheel'. > > I would not have thought that users would be added to it by default, > there are no members on my sid/xfce4 workstation. Indee

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Security hole in LXDE?

2017-03-06 Thread Joe
On Mon, 06 Mar 2017 18:28:25 +0100 Hans wrote: > Closing my first report. When I deleted the user from the group > "sudo", everything worked back as normal. > > Debian appears to use the group 'sudo' as an administrative group, where some other distributions use 'wheel'. I would not have thou

No network and update notifications on Gnome desktop

2017-03-06 Thread Mika Hanhijärvi
Hi I am using Debian Stretch on both of my laptops. I use Gnome desktop. I have installedd all updates available. For some reason I do not get any network notifications. If I e.g connect to wifi network, disconnect from it or if the connection just gets disconnected for some reason then I d

[SOLVED] Re: Security hole in LXDE?

2017-03-06 Thread Hans
Closing my first report. When I deleted the user from the group "sudo", everything worked back as normal. However, IMO the user must additionally be in /et/suders to get the described behaviour working. What is sure: Either KDE or LXDE gave me the opportunity (by using the root password), to

Re: upgraded config files in /lib/systemd/system

2017-03-06 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 14:25:44 + Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:25:52AM -0500, Marc Auslander wrote: > > IIRC in the "old" world, if you had a modified version of a config > > file and an update modified the original released version, you got > > a warning and

Installation issues - Synaptic/packaging bugs and/or confused operator

2017-03-06 Thread Richard Owlett
I don't have I would call a succinct problem description. I will list chronologically what I did with what DID NOT happen that "should" have happened. 1. I have been attempting to use multistrap. I have suspicions that I have configuration problems. This is not the subject of this thread, bu

Re: Recomended tutoial(s) on doing arithmetic in Bash scripts

2017-03-06 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 03:50:06PM +0100, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > Greg Wooledge wrote on 03/06/17 14:38: > > On Sun, Mar 05, 2017 at 05:25:49PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >> If you need floating point numbers, bc (or dc) are your next stops. >

Re: upgraded config files in /lib/systemd/system

2017-03-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:25:52AM -0500, Marc Auslander wrote: > IIRC in the "old" world, if you had a modified version of a config > file and an update modified the original released version, you got > a warning and a dialog which let you decide how to proceed. This is still the case on Debian s

Re: Recomended tutoial(s) on doing arithmetic in Bash scripts

2017-03-06 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Greg Wooledge wrote on 03/06/17 14:38: > On Sun, Mar 05, 2017 at 05:25:49PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> If you need floating point numbers, bc (or dc) are your next stops. > > Or awk. For some problems, awk is fantastic. > Yes, it helps to sample the number of "bytes" like so: owl1=$(awk

Re: Recomended tutoial(s) on doing arithmetic in Bash scripts

2017-03-06 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 08:38:05AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Mar 05, 2017 at 05:25:49PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > If you need floating point numbers, bc (or dc) are your next stops. > > Or awk. For some problems, awk is fantastic

Re: Recomended tutoial(s) on doing arithmetic in Bash scripts

2017-03-06 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Mar 05, 2017 at 05:25:49PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > If you need floating point numbers, bc (or dc) are your next stops. Or awk. For some problems, awk is fantastic. On Sun, Mar 05, 2017 at 06:14:00PM +, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > I see your 2 and raise you > nosuchagency@bottomoft

Re: Failing disk advice

2017-03-06 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Mar 05, 2017 at 08:38:27PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 03/05/2017 01:02 PM, Gregory Seidman wrote: > >I have a disk that is reporting SMART errors. What are the errors? Some are more serious, some less so. > >It is an active disk in a (kernel, not hardware) RAID1 > >confi

Re: Recomended tutoial(s) on doing arithmetic in Bash scripts

2017-03-06 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Mar 06, 2017 at 05:13:36AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/05/2017 04:12 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: > >Another external tool at least as good as bc is wcalc and once that > >package gets installed just run wcalc at the command prompt and you

Re: Failing disk advice

2017-03-06 Thread Mirko Parthey
On Sun, Mar 05, 2017 at 08:38:27PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 03/05/2017 01:02 PM, Gregory Seidman wrote: > >I have a disk that is reporting SMART errors. It is an active disk in a > >(kernel, not hardware) RAID1 configuration. I also have a hot spare in the > >RAID1, and md hasn't decide

Re: Recomended tutoial(s) on doing arithmetic in Bash scripts

2017-03-06 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/05/2017 04:12 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Another external tool at least as good as bc is wcalc and once that package gets installed just run wcalc at the command prompt and you'll have quite a load of examples show up. For my current project I think dc, rather than expr or bc, is the bette

Re: confusion in /etc/network/interfaces

2017-03-06 Thread Dominik George
>> "ifconfig" can not handle multiple IPv4 addresses on one interface >and >> needs this kind of crutch. >> >> The far more modern command "ip" has no such limitations. > >I've found my own brain to have a similar limitation, and find >interface >aliases useful for clarity even when I have ip(8)

Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd?

2017-03-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 09:42:10AM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote: > All that's why I consider systemd so insidious. It forces you to use it > whether you want to or not. Something Microsoft has been doing to > their users for decades. ;-) You started this thread with > I don't like systemd (why

Re: confusion in /etc/network/interfaces

2017-03-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Mar 04, 2017 at 09:10:16PM +0100, Sven Hartge wrote: > Worth noting: the interface:alias notation was introduced because > "ifconfig" can not handle multiple IPv4 addresses on one interface and > needs this kind of crutch. > > The far more modern command "ip" has no such limitations. I'v