Re: WebRTC - was Re: no microphone in skype

2014-12-09 Thread Bret Busby
On 08/12/2014, Bret Busby wrote: > On 08/12/2014, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: >> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Andreas Weber >> wrote: >>> On 2014-12-06 22:31, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Andreas Weber wrote: > On 2014-12-06 05:28, Gary Dale w

Testing needed for xorg-server security update

2014-12-09 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
Hi, there's been a new release of xorg-server fixing multiple security vulnerabilities: http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-announce/2014-December/002500.html The update is ready for Wheezy/stable and has been successfully tested on an Intel graphics adapter. But since different hardware will exer

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-09 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
On 10/12/2014 09:30, Frédéric Marchal wrote: Le Tuesday 09 December 2014 16:36:53, The Wanderer a écrit : On 12/09/2014 at 10:09 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 09:48:58AM +0100, Frédéric Marchal wrote: Now, is it possible to run fsck during shutdown? Users have been asking

How to guess how to add the key of a repo (GPG, apt-key add,...)

2014-12-09 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
Hi all I have to use a repo: http://open.iabsis.com/debian/ When adding it in my sources, apt complains about not having GPG key about it. Would you know how to guess the gpg invocation (server, key,...) in order to import it to apt? Thank you.

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-09 Thread Frédéric Marchal
Le Tuesday 09 December 2014 16:36:53, The Wanderer a écrit : > On 12/09/2014 at 10:09 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 09:48:58AM +0100, Frédéric Marchal wrote: > >> Now, is it possible to run fsck during shutdown? Users have been > >> asking for this for at least 10 years. Is

RE: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-09 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi John, >Brian writes: >> I see ideas being examined and criticised. I see no attacks on anyone. > > I did. Well, I am one of the participants in the discussion and did not see any attacks. We are merely discussing why it is a good idea to have the option to cancel a running fsck. Others are a

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-09 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
On 09/12/2014 22:11, Brian wrote: On Tue 09 Dec 2014 at 10:11:45 +0300, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: Brian you seem to miss a point here, your roundabout solution to systemd introduced regression implies that when you boot your computer you get to know in advance if you can afford a fsck to

Re: Debian7.7でUSB HDDの書込不可の不具合 (problems writing to HDD)

2014-12-09 Thread Joel Rees
I think I saw something like this on d-u recently, I'll practice my translating on the post: 2014/12/09 14:27 "Jun Itou" : > > Jun Itouです。 > > お世話になります。 "Hello", etc. > Debian7.6から7.7に変更してからUSB HDDが書込不可の症状に直面しています。 Jun is having problems writing to USB HDD after installing Debian 7.7. > (7.6でも

NFS troubles on Suspend

2014-12-09 Thread Ryan Barber
I'm having an issue where NFS hangs after my laptop resumes after suspended from closing the lid. The scenario is a fresh Debian Jessie install, which is host to a Debian 7.4 VM using VirtualBox, which is managed by Vagrant. I'm hoping to get some advice on debugging this. I realize the Vagrant/V

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

2014-12-09 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 07 Dec 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 06 dec 14, 13:56:34, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Sat, 06 Dec 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > On Lu, 01 dec 14, 23:05:09, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > > > > > Well, we already know what a lot of Debian server admins think > > > > of syst

Re: Debian7.7でUSB HDDの書込不可の不具合

2014-12-09 Thread Joel Rees
Thanks, Lisi. I think they didn't notice it wasn't the Japanese list. I didn't either, or I would have said something earlier. Jun did post his questions to the Japanese list yesterday, I don't see a response yet. (It's not a question I can answer easily.) 2014/12/09 23:04 "Lisi Reisz" : > > On Tu

unable to install librecad in wheezy amd64

2014-12-09 Thread Tad Bak
Hi, The subject says all: after issuing the command: apt-get install librecad I am getting: [...] The following packages have unmet dependencies: librecad : Depends: libqt4-help (>= 4:4.5.3) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libqt4-qt3support (>= 4:4.5.3) but it is not

Re: aptitude view filter

2014-12-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 00:56:02, George Shuklin wrote: > Hello. > > I'm trying to view only installed and not 'A'uto packages. I limit view in > aptititude to ~i&(!~A). > > It shows empty list. Why? Short answer: you want '~i!~M' (you don't need the quotes in interactive mode). Long answer: 1. '&'

aptitude view filter

2014-12-09 Thread George Shuklin
Hello. I'm trying to view only installed and not 'A'uto packages. I limit view in aptititude to ~i&(!~A). It shows empty list. Why? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https:

Re: About Testing Freeze and KDE

2014-12-09 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2014-12-09, B. M. wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm using Debian since about a year now, so this is my first freeze > :-) > > How does the freeze work in regard to KDE: currently, many packages > are at 4.14.2, PIM is at 4.14.1 and the latest 4.14 release is 4.14.3 > > Is it true that the packages will

Re: Image cloning software

2014-12-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 09 dec 14, 20:05:54, Miroslav Skoric wrote: > > Btw, when I mentioned 'cloning' an image on the other machines, I meant > including those with different hardware (CPU, GPU, HDD & RAM size). Would it > be possible? It depends: - CPU: matters only if different architecture - GPU: might matte

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-09 Thread Brian
On Mon 08 Dec 2014 at 23:13:45 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 08 December 2014 19:00:36 Brian wrote: > > On Mon 08 Dec 2014 at 17:14:58 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Monday 08 December 2014 16:25:51 Brian wrote: > > > "Remedial action is not needed because the right choice was made from

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-09 Thread Brian
On Tue 09 Dec 2014 at 10:11:45 +0300, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: > Brian you seem to miss a point here, your roundabout solution to > systemd introduced regression implies that when you boot your > computer you get to know in advance if you can afford a fsck to run > on those big data drives.

Re: [OT] was Re: rather OT - was - Re: Latin "joke", was Re: running two CPU's in parallel with e.g. Beowulf in the same box.....

2014-12-09 Thread Bret Busby
On 09/12/2014, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 11:23:04PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> On Monday 08 December 2014 17:41:57 Michael Fothergill wrote: >> > Perhaps the fun to be got out of it is to try doing it with different >> > phrases and then those of us who don't know Latin tak

Re: Image cloning software

2014-12-09 Thread Miroslav Skoric
Is there a good software for Debian 7.7 as well as for Debian 6.10 that is capable to produce a multi DVD/CD image of a working system, in a way that such image can be used later as a DVD/CD installation media for 'cloning' on the other comps (or on itself, in case of an irreparable failure of a w

Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE

2014-12-09 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Harry Putnam wrote: Running jessie Using an lxde desktop... for a long time now (Note: for lack of a fuller vocabulary, the word icon is used to cover a few different things below:) (Attached at bottom is a screen grab showing what I'm talking about) Running uptodate sid with lxde. I se

Re: Maildrop - howto deliver email that contains the word "systemd" directly to trash with .mailfilter?

2014-12-09 Thread Dan Ritter
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 03:40:38PM +0100, Toby wrote: > Hello, > > the subject says it all. I'm starting to have problems finding > useful mails from this list. > They are hiding somewhere between all systemd arguments. > > Since I'm not interested in what init system that will be the > default a

Re: File & folder clean up

2014-12-09 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
On 09/12/2014 20:24, Bob Proulx wrote: B. M. wrote: Short Summary: How can I find files which parent folders have the same name? ... Assuming that at least some of these files are in parent folders with the same name, do you know any tool which can help in finding them and moving them around?

Re: About Testing Freeze and KDE

2014-12-09 Thread Bob Proulx
B. M. wrote: > I'm using Debian since about a year now, so this is my first freeze :-) When you say "using Debian" that is not sufficient to really describe what you are doing. I use Debian Stable on production servers. I also run Debian Unstable for testing and reporting bugs before the next re

Re: [minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE

2014-12-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 09 dec 14, 11:05:23, Harry Putnam wrote: > > Further, some indicators still show the regular icon. One I notice is > iceweasel. > > I'd like the old behavior back but have no idea how to start digging > into it. I'm guessing the icon is set by the application, in this case your termina

Re: About Testing Freeze and KDE

2014-12-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 09 dec 14, 16:11:30, B. M. wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm using Debian since about a year now, so this is my first freeze :-) > > How does the freeze work in regard to KDE: currently, many packages > are at 4.14.2, PIM is at 4.14.1 and the latest 4.14 release is 4.14.3 Are there any significa

Re: File & folder clean up

2014-12-09 Thread Bob Proulx
B. M. wrote: > Short Summary: > How can I find files which parent folders have the same name? > ... > Assuming that at least some of these files are in parent folders with > the same name, do you know any tool which can help in finding them and > moving them around? The 'find' program is the stand

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-09 Thread Marty
On 12/09/2014 04:55 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 09 December 2014 08:59:34 Curt wrote: On 2014-12-09, Bret Busby wrote: > So, what "up to date" operating system is, now? You cut his link to plan9; maybe that's it. Which is going to be so "up-to-date" that it can't use "anachronisms" like

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 09:48:58AM +0100, Frédéric Marchal wrote: > > Now, is it possible to run fsck during shutdown? Users have been asking for > > this for at least 10 years. Is it now acceptable, possible, tolerated? It was proposed that we do thi

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-09 Thread Curt
On 2014-12-09, Chris Bannister wrote: >> >> from what I understand, "most people" who "use computers" do not use >> Linux as the operating system, and, most people who "use computers", >> do not know what is Linux. > > Some use computers to trim their posts while, sadly, others do not. > Yes, a

Re: LVM RAID5 with missing disk?

2014-12-09 Thread Bob Proulx
Hello Pascal, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Bob Proulx a écrit : > > I favor RAID6's extra redundancy for more safety but I > > still use RAID1 too. > > RAID 1 can provide as much or more redundancy than RAID 6. > RAID 1 on 3 disks provides as much redundancy as RAID 6. > RAID 1 on 4 disks provides mo

[minor bitch] about the panel (taskbar) LXDE

2014-12-09 Thread Harry Putnam
Running jessie Using an lxde desktop... for a long time now (Note: for lack of a fuller vocabulary, the word icon is used to cover a few different things below:) (Attached at bottom is a screen grab showing what I'm talking about) Some mnths ago (not sure how many) the icons (running program

File & folder clean up

2014-12-09 Thread B. M.
Hi all, Short Summary: How can I find files which parent folders have the same name? Long version: For a friend of mine I'm helping with tidying up his files and folders. What he basically did in the past was copying folders several times like for (bad) backups... So many files have been copied

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-09 Thread The Wanderer
On 12/09/2014 at 10:09 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 09:48:58AM +0100, Frédéric Marchal wrote: > >> Now, is it possible to run fsck during shutdown? Users have been >> asking for this for at least 10 years. Is it now acceptable, >> possible, tolerated? > > That sounds like

Re: [OT] was Re: rather OT - was - Re: Latin "joke", was Re: running two CPU's in parallel with e.g. Beowulf in the same box.....

2014-12-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 11:23:04PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 08 December 2014 17:41:57 Michael Fothergill wrote: > > Perhaps the fun to be got out of it is to try doing it with different > > phrases and then those of us who don't know Latin take bets on how good or > > bad a translation

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 09:48:58AM +0100, Frédéric Marchal wrote: > > Now, is it possible to run fsck during shutdown? Users have been asking for > this for at least 10 years. Is it now acceptable, possible, tolerated? That sounds like a recipe for disaster. Do you mean *before* shutdown? -- "

Re: rather OT - was - Re: Latin "joke", was Re: running two CPU's in parallel with e.g. Beowulf in the same box.....

2014-12-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 04:26:42PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 08 December 2014 15:44:59 Michael Fothergill wrote: > > > > A novus fuscinulam Debian - Devuan pulsantes apparuit absque ulla > > > > logicas rationem omnino > > > > > > "A new (way of doing impolite things to, or, an impo

About Testing Freeze and KDE

2014-12-09 Thread B. M.
Hi all, I'm using Debian since about a year now, so this is my first freeze :-) How does the freeze work in regard to KDE: currently, many packages are at 4.14.2, PIM is at 4.14.1 and the latest 4.14 release is 4.14.3 Is it true that the packages will stay at these version numbers, also after t

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 03:51:49AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > > Oh, and, from what I understand, unless the statistics have changed, > regarding the > > " > consider thinking about how most people uses their > >>> computers ;) > " > > from what I understand, "most people" who "use computers" do

Re: Debian7.7でUSB HDDの書込不可の不具合

2014-12-09 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 09 December 2014 04:44:25 Jun Itou wrote, mostly in Japanese: [snip] This is the English language list. You might find these more helpful: https://lists.debian.org/debian-japanese/ http://www.debian.or.jp/community/ml/ HTH Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists

jessie: dpkg-bug #768599

2014-12-09 Thread Felix Natter
hi, I get an error when configuring packages during "apt-get dist-upgrade" [1]: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768599 (which is fixed in dpkg 1.17.22 which is currently in unstable). The error does not re-occur when doing a "apt-get -f install" followed by a "apt-get dist-upgra

Re: LVM RAID5 with missing disk?

2014-12-09 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Bob Proulx a écrit : > > I favor RAID6's extra redundancy for more safety but I > still use RAID1 too. RAID 1 can provide as much or more redundancy than RAID 6. RAID 1 on 3 disks provides as much redundancy as RAID 6. RAID 1 on 4 disks provides more redundancy than RAID 6 (but half the usable sp

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-09 Thread Joel Rees
2014/12/09 18:06 "Frédéric Marchal" : > > [...] > > That procedure seems perfectly fine to me unless i completely forget about running fsck. To this the mountinfo script ( http://nwalsh.com/hacks/mountinfo/) was proposed by Curt. It is a solution but I would prefer a desktop widget for this purpose

HP M125nw printer and debian

2014-12-09 Thread Erwan David
Did someone try this combo scanner/printer in network with debian ? openprinting.org does not list it, but hplip does, thus the question. Thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debia

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-09 Thread Curt
On 2014-12-09, Frédéric Marchal wrote: > > This thread is about using one's computer quickly after turning it on. An=20 > unexpected un-interruptible fsck is seen as an obstacle to this. > > To summarize the best solution proposed so far, I have to > > 1) adjust automatic fsck to my taste: tune2fs

Re: Fwd: Re: Failed to install VLC from wheezy backports

2014-12-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 09 dec 14, 11:06:35, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > I've tried adding those further depends onto the apt-get line, but it > simply fails on further dependencies, eventually failing on > > Package libavcodec-extra-54 is not available, but is referred to by > another package. > This may mean t

Re: Fwd: Re: Failed to install VLC from wheezy backports

2014-12-09 Thread Tony van der Hoff
Thanks very much for the explanation, Anderei, On 09/12/14 10:42, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > I can't spot anything wrong in here. A "bigger hammer" approach would be > to do this > > apt-get install -t wheezy-backports vlc vlc-nox libvlccore7 > > If this works it might be worth reporting it

[HITB-Announce] #HITB2015AMS Call for Papers is Open

2014-12-09 Thread Hafez Kamal
Happy December everyone - It's that time of the year again when we ask you to submit your latest and greatest research papers for HITB Security Conference in Amsterdam! Our 6th annual event in The Netherlands takes place at the Beurs van Berlage from the 26th - 29th of May 2014. Event Website: ht

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-09 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 09 December 2014 08:59:34 Curt wrote: > On 2014-12-09, Bret Busby wrote: > > So, what "up to date" operating system is, now? > > You cut his link to plan9; maybe that's it. Which is going to be so "up-to-date" that it can't use "anachronisms" like multi-seat, which are widely and curr

debian on hp probook 640

2014-12-09 Thread Hleb Valoshka
Hallo everybody. Has anybody any experience with Debian (I'm thinking about Jessy) installation on HP ProBook 640? I was unable to google anything helpful about this book and GNU/Linux, except that HP provides option to install SUSE on it. So, I hope, there sh'ld be no great problems with Debian

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-09 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 08 December 2014 20:46:56 Richard Owlett wrote: > Bret Busby wrote: > > On 09/12/2014, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> In a thread titled "Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?" > >> berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > >> [https://lists.debian.org/3d6a00a1c8bddc88b517b4e19cc68...@neutralite.or

Re: Fwd: Re: Failed to install VLC from wheezy backports

2014-12-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 09 dec 14, 10:28:01, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > tony@tony-fr:~$ sudo apt-cache policy > [sudo] password for tony: Note: apt-cache doesn't require root privileges, since it only provides information > Package files: > 100 http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-backports/main amd64 Pac

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-09 Thread Bret Busby
On 09/12/2014, Richard Owlett wrote: > Bret Busby wrote: >> On 09/12/2014, Richard Owlett wrote: >>> In a thread titled "Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?" >>> berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: >>> [https://lists.debian.org/3d6a00a1c8bddc88b517b4e19cc68...@neutralite.org]> >>> >>> Le

Fwd: Re: Failed to install VLC from wheezy backports

2014-12-09 Thread Tony van der Hoff
Apologies to Andrei -- inadvertently sent by mail: Original Message Subject: Re: Failed to install VLC from wheezy backports Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 10:16:47 +0100 From: Tony van der Hoff To: Andrei POPESCU On 09/12/14 00:04, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 08 dec 14, 17:30:44,

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-09 Thread Curt
On 2014-12-09, Bret Busby wrote: > > I just object to such sweeping statements of male ovine faeces. > Well, you're manifestly an authority in the matter, whereas this Rob Pike guy formerly from Bell Labs is some sort of newbie on whose opinion most of us wouldn't want to waste our pompous latina

Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-09 Thread Frédéric Marchal
Le Monday 08 December 2014 15:40:03, The Wanderer a écrit : > This thread is about complaints about not being able to interrupt / > abort / cancel an already-started boot-time fsck. This thread is about using one's computer quickly after turning it on. An unexpected un-interruptible fsck is seen

Re: How is typical home computer used today?

2014-12-09 Thread Curt
On 2014-12-09, Bret Busby wrote: > > So, what "up to date" operating system is, now? > You cut his link to plan9; maybe that's it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://li

Debian 6 with Sudden GTK application crash @ libGDK

2014-12-09 Thread venkat
Very recently, we migrated from DEBIAN 5(Lenny) to DEBAIN 6(Squeeze). Since, our application is based on GTK 2.0 we thought migrating from GTK app is pretty easy. So, as a first step we compiled our application and ran some regressions on the system. Suddenly, we noticed application getting

Re: user permission inconsistency

2014-12-09 Thread alex
Ok, I made a big mess in the email: I edited the text (manually) to change alex to user. Shame on me. running the "id" command without any parameters should show you the group memberships of your shell. I *suspect* this is somehow related to systemd-logind (while systemd is not running as

Re: [OT] was Re: rather OT - was - Re: Latin "joke", was Re: running two CPU's in parallel with e.g. Beowulf in the same box.....

2014-12-09 Thread Curt
On 2014-12-08, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > When I was at school we had a rhyme which went: > > Caeser adsum iam forte > Pompey aderat; > Caeser sic in omnibus > Pompey sic in at. Canis Latinicus. > ;-) I spoke fluent Porcus Latinicus as a child by the way, not to flatter myself or anything. > Lisi >