Re: [OT] alternative to dsndynamic.com?

2014-11-24 Thread Howard Eisenberger
On 2014-11-24, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > It seems dsndynamic.com bit the dust this weekend of the 23 of November. > Is there an alternative of a free dsn server? I have been using dnsdynamic for a few years and saw that it was down over the weekend, but it is working again for me now. Try http:

iceweasel and dolphin

2014-11-24 Thread Matthias Bodenbinder
Hi, I am getting crazy with iceweasel not opening dolphin for "containing folders". I searched the web for hours and tried everything I found. Working with mimeTypes.rdf in personal iceweasel folder ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list /etc/gnome/defaults.list (I am running KDE but have g

Re: Purging a package............... (and apt-config processing order)

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/11/14 15:14, The Wanderer wrote: > On 11/24/2014 at 11:03 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> I don't know whether /etc/apt/apt.conf is processed before >> fragments in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d - but I'd be interested in >> learning. Anyone?? > > Now that you bring it up, I'd be interested in that m

Re: Purging a package............... (and apt-config processing order)

2014-11-24 Thread The Wanderer
On 11/24/2014 at 11:03 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > I don't know whether /etc/apt/apt.conf is processed before fragments > in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d - but I'd be interested in learning. > Anyone?? Now that you bring it up, I'd be interested in that myself. Fortunately, it's trivially discoverable:

Re: Purging a package............... (and apt-config processing order)

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
CORRECTION On 25/11/14 14:25, Charlie wrote: > On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:02:37 +1100 Scott Ferguson sent: > >> On 25/11/14 13:02, Charlie wrote: >>> On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:24:29 +0200 Andrei POPESCU sent: >>> >> Notes:- >> *Fragments are processed in alpha order (numbers, then the following >> lett

Re: Purging a package...............

2014-11-24 Thread Charlie
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:02:37 +1100 Scott Ferguson sent: > On 25/11/14 13:02, Charlie wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:24:29 +0200 Andrei POPESCU sent: > > > >> Because of this I set > >> > >> APT::AutoRemove::SuggestsImportant "false"; > >> > >> in apt.conf > > > > I have no apt.conf but I

Re: Purging a package...............

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/11/14 13:02, Charlie wrote: > On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:24:29 +0200 Andrei POPESCU sent: > >> Because of this I set >> >> APT::AutoRemove::SuggestsImportant "false"; >> >> in apt.conf > > I have no apt.conf but I do have an /etc/apt/apt.conf.d directory? > > Am I missing an apt.conf file

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-24 Thread Marty
On 11/24/2014 04:16 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 24 nov 14, 08:02:44, Marty wrote: It was a policy vote. The only "results" that matter are their effect on Debian Policy, right? The rest is academic. The vote invoked a clause in the TC init decision to allow modifying or overturning the po

Re: Purging a package...............

2014-11-24 Thread Charlie
On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:24:29 +0200 Andrei POPESCU sent: > Because of this I set > > APT::AutoRemove::SuggestsImportant "false"; > > in apt.conf I have no apt.conf but I do have an /etc/apt/apt.conf.d directory? Am I missing an apt.conf file and should one be added? Charlie -- Re

Xorg / vt blank-screen problem

2014-11-24 Thread Bill Brelsford
Since updating to kernel 3.16-1-686-pae (and with newer ones), when I start X I usually get a back-lit blank screen. Switching back to vt1 usually works (shows the X dialog); switching to vt7 a second time usually works (shows my X session), but sometimes not. Once X works, going back to vt1 almo

Fwd: Gnome/X/Display device issues since before Testing freeze

2014-11-24 Thread Peter Miller
I've had the "Oh no! Something went wrong" screen for a couple of weeks now, since just before Testing went into freeze. I've looked everywhere I can and tried all sorts of things, but nothing solves the problem. I recently upgraded to sid to see if that helped, but still no luck. In the included

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-24 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 24 nov 14, 08:02:44, Marty wrote: > > It was a policy vote. The only "results" that matter are their effect > on Debian Policy, right? The rest is academic. > > The vote invoked a clause in the TC init decision to allow modifying or > overturning the policy set by the TC init decision, in

Re: Purging a package...............

2014-11-24 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 23 nov 14, 15:11:56, Bob Proulx wrote: > > That is expected. Because when you purged that package the tool > doesn't know if you were going to install an alternative tool or a > different version of that tool or something different. It shouldn't > remove the dependencies recursively. Aga

Re: Fetchmail; continually losing authentication with gmx.net

2014-11-24 Thread Frédéric Marchal
Le Monday 24 November 2014 20:27:25, Ron Leach a écrit : > List, good evening, > > I've looked through the man fetchmail pages and I'd like to get some > extra logging but I can't seem to pass the -vv parameter to fetchmail. > Fetchmail starts as a daemon, and I can stop it and start it again, b

Fetchmail; continually losing authentication with gmx.net

2014-11-24 Thread Ron Leach
List, good evening, We use Fetchmail to collect email from various addresses and providers. The incoming mail is passed to Exim for delivery to mailboxes, and served to local MUAs on the network using IMAP provided by Dovecot. We've had this architecture in place since Debian Etch (D4) and

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/24/2014 1:14 PM, Ric Moore wrote: > On 11/24/2014 08:18 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > >> And while Wheezy will still be supported for a couple of years, it's not >> necessarily the answer. While many people don't want the "latest and >> greatest", they also don't want the "oldest and baddest".

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/24/2014 1:08 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> On 11/24/2014 10:52 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>> On 25/11/14 01:57, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/24/2014 8:54 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/24/2014 1:00 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> On 11/24/2014 8:54 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: >>> Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> Yes, and while the Linux community continues, Debian will lose a >> lot of >> dedicated

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/24/2014 12:37 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 25/11/14 03:26, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> On 11/24/2014 10:52 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>> On 25/11/14 01:57, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/24/2014 8:54 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Fergu

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/24/2014 12:22 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 25/11/14 03:13, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> On 11/24/2014 10:05 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>> On 25/11/14 00:25, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> Yes, and while the Linux community continues, Debian will >

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Ric Moore
On 11/24/2014 08:18 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: And while Wheezy will still be supported for a couple of years, it's not necessarily the answer. While many people don't want the "latest and greatest", they also don't want the "oldest and baddest". Sounds like your customers need to either pay fo

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Miles Fidelman
Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/24/2014 10:52 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 25/11/14 01:57, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/24/2014 8:54 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: Yes, and while the Linux community continues, Debian will lose a lot of d

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Miles Fidelman
Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/24/2014 8:54 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: Yes, and while the Linux community continues, Debian will lose a lot of dedicated users due to this decision. Possibly another fork, or possibly another distro.

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/11/14 03:36, Curt wrote: > On 2014-11-24, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> >>> Some of them came to Debian because it was one of the last holdouts. >> >> Is that a reference to a term used in a television show about the >> fictitious "Wild West"? I can only apologise of my ignorance of "popular >> c

Re: [OT] alternative to dsndynamic.com?

2014-11-24 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 07:33:04AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hi, > > It seems dsndynamic.com bit the dust this weekend of the 23 of > November. Is there an alternative of a free dsn server? freedns.afraid.org works for me last several years. Requires a registration, as always. Reco

Re: moving from 3.16-3-486 to 686

2014-11-24 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:35:46PM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > Pascal Hambourg writes: > > > Harry Putnam a écrit : > >> > >> My question is whether continuing to use the 486 versions of kernels > >> has any down sides? > > > > The -486 kernel lacks support for multiprocessing/hyperthread

Debootstrap and Multistrap - instructional material?

2014-11-24 Thread Richard Owlett
I attempting to do some heavily customized installs. It was suggested I investigate debootstrap. My initial attempts were only a partial success. While searching for more information I came across multistrap which appears more suitable for me. The man pages and tutorials I've found so far demo

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/11/14 03:26, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 11/24/2014 10:52 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 25/11/14 01:57, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> On 11/24/2014 8:54 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>> >>> Do you expect customers to build

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Martin Read
On 24/11/14 16:30, The Wanderer wrote: I do not have links to specific messages, since I don't habitually work with or enjoy browsing through Web archives of mailing lists, and since I've never understood (or even understood how to make practical use of) the "message links" - looking outwardly si

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/11/14 03:13, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 11/24/2014 10:05 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 25/11/14 00:25, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > Yes, and while the Linux community continues, Debian will > lose a lot of dedicated users due to this decis

Re: moving from 3.16-3-486 to 686

2014-11-24 Thread Harry Putnam
Pascal Hambourg writes: > Harry Putnam a écrit : >> >> My question is whether continuing to use the 486 versions of kernels >> has any down sides? > > The -486 kernel lacks support for multiprocessing/hyperthreading and PAE > (which is required for NX/XD bit). I see in my latest `full-upgrade'

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Curt
On 2014-11-24, Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> Some of them came to Debian because it was one of the last holdouts. > > Is that a reference to a term used in a television show about the > fictitious "Wild West"? I can only apologise of my ignorance of "popular > culture" (long story - I haven't watched

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/24/2014 11:01 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 25/11/14 02:01, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> On 11/24/2014 8:58 AM, Martin Read wrote: >>> On 24/11/14 13:25, Jerry Stuckle wrote: And exactly what is the "Debian way" to add custom (NOT customized pre-packaged) software to the system? >>> >>>

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread The Wanderer
On 11/24/2014 at 10:37 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 25/11/14 00:53, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 11/24/2014 at 02:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>> It's illogical to upgrade and not expect change - even when >>> electing (as Debian allows) to retain the same init system. >> >> It's illogical to

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/24/2014 10:52 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 25/11/14 01:57, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> On 11/24/2014 8:54 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: >>> Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> Yes, and while the Linux community continues, Debian will >> lose a lot of d

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/24/2014 10:05 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 25/11/14 00:25, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: Yes, and while the Linux community continues, Debian will lose a lot of dedicated users due to this decision. Possibly another fork, or possibly

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/11/14 02:01, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 11/24/2014 8:58 AM, Martin Read wrote: >> On 24/11/14 13:25, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> And exactly what is the "Debian way" to add custom (NOT customized >>> pre-packaged) software to the system? >> >> As far as I can tell, the obvious things that go into

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/11/14 01:57, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 11/24/2014 8:54 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: >> Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > Yes, and while the Linux community continues, Debian will > lose a lot of dedicated users due to this decision. Possibly >

Re: Headless server just got suspended by updating systemd

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/11/14 01:03, The Wanderer wrote: > On 11/24/2014 at 02:59 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >> On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 08:58:46PM -0800, Matt Ventura wrote: >> >>> I think the bug here IMO is that a system simply shouldn't *do* >>> things in general without me telling it to. If I close the lid

NFS homedirs and icon position

2014-11-24 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Hello, I have a strange problem with homedirs on NFS (Wheezy), using Gnome3 Classic. With "advanced settings" I configured the desktop so that users can place icons on it. The problem is that after ordening the icons and rebooting the machine, the position of the icons is the old position again..

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/11/14 00:53, The Wanderer wrote: > On 11/24/2014 at 02:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > >> On 24/11/14 13:20, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> >>> On 11/23/2014 8:42 PM, Ric Moore wrote: > Like what?? I first installed systemd back when it was announced. I have yet to have a single problem

Re: Headless server just got suspended by updating systemd

2014-11-24 Thread Christian Seiler
Am 2014-11-24 15:47, schrieb Patrick Wiseman: On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 06:01:45PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: 2014/11/24 17:18 "Jonathan Dowland" : > I guess your argument makes sense if you are talking about all source packages > from the

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/11/14 00:25, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>> Yes, and while the Linux community continues, Debian will lose a >>> lot of dedicated users due to this decision. Possibly another >>> fork, or possibly another distro. But Debian will lose users. >> >>

Re: [OT] alternative to dsndynamic.com?

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/11/14 00:33, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hi, > > It seems dsndynamic.com bit the dust this weekend of the 23 of November. > Is there an alternative of a free dsn server? > > Hugo > > noip.com is one of many - it's possible to use it with the debian package "ddclient" Do I use it? Yes. Is

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/24/2014 8:58 AM, Martin Read wrote: > On 24/11/14 13:25, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> And exactly what is the "Debian way" to add custom (NOT customized >> pre-packaged) software to the system? > > As far as I can tell, the obvious things that go into the "Debian way" > for installing custom soft

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/24/2014 8:54 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> Yes, and while the Linux community continues, Debian will lose a lot of dedicated users due to this decision. Possibly another fork, or possibly another distro. B

Re: ntpd confusion

2014-11-24 Thread Chen Wei
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:58:29AM +0100, mad wrote: > mentioned, other Debian installations not on my home network, with the > same configuration show as expected four clock sources. Even starting > ntpd on the command line doesn't show any more data and ntpd is compiled > without debugging. Proba

Re: [OT] alternative to dnsdynamic.com?

2014-11-24 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Paul Scott wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 07:40:42AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, It seems dsndynamic.com bit the dust this weekend of the 23 of November. Is there an alternative of a free dsn server? I meant dnsdynamic of course... You give no description but f

Re: [OT] alternative to dnsdynamic.com?

2014-11-24 Thread Ron Leach
On 24/11/2014 14:23, Ron Leach wrote: First, If you are looking for (1) a free domain name with (2) the capability to automatically update the dns record whenever the IP address of a host changes, such as the dyndns free service previously did, then I wonder if it may be possible to 1. use a f

Re: Headless server just got suspended by updating systemd

2014-11-24 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 06:01:45PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: >> 2014/11/24 17:18 "Jonathan Dowland" : >> > I guess your argument makes sense if you are talking about all source >> packages >> > from the systemd stable, including logind; it's

Re: Headless server just got suspended by updating systemd

2014-11-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 09:03:31AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > Personally, I suspect that the only reason "suspend on lid close" is > thought of as a sensible default is because so many other (non-*nix) > systems already do it, not because of anything inherent to the behavior > or to lid-close the

Re: Headless server just got suspended by updating systemd

2014-11-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 07:38:34AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > It isn't just ideal. It's Debian policy to respect configuration > changes on upgrade. That isn't the case, I'm afraid. At least if you are referring to [1], this section refers specifically to *configuration files*, in the context

Re: Headless server just got suspended by updating systemd

2014-11-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 06:01:45PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > 2014/11/24 17:18 "Jonathan Dowland" : > > I guess your argument makes sense if you are talking about all source > packages > > from the systemd stable, including logind; it's unlikely Patrick's init > system > > was switched to systemd-as

Re: [OT] alternative to dnsdynamic.com?

2014-11-24 Thread Ron Leach
On 24/11/2014 13:40, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, It seems dsndynamic.com bit the dust this weekend of the 23 of November. Is there an alternative of a free dsn server? Two ideas: First, If you are looking for (1) a free domain name with (2) the capability to automat

Re: Headless server just got suspended by updating systemd

2014-11-24 Thread The Wanderer
On 11/24/2014 at 02:59 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 08:58:46PM -0800, Matt Ventura wrote: > >> I think the bug here IMO is that a system simply shouldn't *do* >> things in general without me telling it to. If I close the lid of >> my laptop, unless I have told it to susp

Re: EXT4-fr error, ext4_find_entry: reading directory...

2014-11-24 Thread linuxmasterjedi
- Mail original - > > > It could even be a power issue - lack of sufficient voltage can > > have > > all sorts of weird and counter-intuitive results. And > > inconsistently > > so. > Gonna change the power supply & SATA cables. > At the boot, the BIOS take ages to detect HDs now, that's

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Martin Read
On 24/11/14 13:25, Jerry Stuckle wrote: And exactly what is the "Debian way" to add custom (NOT customized pre-packaged) software to the system? As far as I can tell, the obvious things that go into the "Debian way" for installing custom software are: 1) If your software isn't installed via

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Miles Fidelman
Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: Yes, and while the Linux community continues, Debian will lose a lot of dedicated users due to this decision. Possibly another fork, or possibly another distro. But Debian will lose users. 1. At best that's pure speculation. W

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread The Wanderer
On 11/24/2014 at 02:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 24/11/14 13:20, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > >> On 11/23/2014 8:42 PM, Ric Moore wrote: >>> Like what?? I first installed systemd back when it was announced. >>> I have yet to have a single problem with it. >> >> What about all of those people wit

Re: Headless server just got suspended by updating systemd

2014-11-24 Thread John Hasler
Jonathan Dowland writes: > The other issue here is that if you've told your system how you want > it to behave once, it would be ideal if you didn't have to tell it the > same thing again. It isn't just ideal. It's Debian policy to respect configuration changes on upgrade. -- John Hasler jhas

Re: [OT] alternative to dnsdynamic.com?

2014-11-24 Thread Paul Scott
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 07:40:42AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > >Hi, > > > >It seems dsndynamic.com bit the dust this weekend of the 23 of November. > >Is there an alternative of a free dsn server? > > > > I meant dnsdynamic of course... You give no description but fro

Re: Headless server just got suspended by updating systemd

2014-11-24 Thread John Hasler
Matt Ventura writes: > I think the bug here IMO is that a system simply shouldn't *do* things > in general without me telling it to. If I close the lid of my laptop, > unless I have told it to suspend when I do so, then it shouldn't > suspend. I should be telling my machine to do the things I want

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/24/2014 2:56 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> Yes, and while the Linux community continues, Debian will lose a lot of >> dedicated users due to this decision. Possibly another fork, or >> possibly another distro. But Debian will lose users. > > 1. At best that's pure speculation. With all due

Re: [OT] alternative to dnsdynamic.com?

2014-11-24 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, It seems dsndynamic.com bit the dust this weekend of the 23 of November. Is there an alternative of a free dsn server? I meant dnsdynamic of course... Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troub

Re: EXT4-fr error, ext4_find_entry: reading directory...

2014-11-24 Thread linuxmasterjedi
- Mail original - > De: "Karl E. Jorgensen" > À: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Envoyé: Lundi 24 Novembre 2014 13:23:13 > Objet: Re: EXT4-fr error, ext4_find_entry: reading directory... > > Hi > > On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 01:17:29PM +0100, linuxmasterj...@free.fr > wrote: > > Hi, > > >

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/23/2014 11:25 PM, Ric Moore wrote: > On 11/23/2014 09:20 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> On 11/23/2014 8:42 PM, Ric Moore wrote: >>> On 11/23/2014 12:17 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> That is the huge majority of Debian users. Some will get a rude surprise when they upgrade and things don't

[OT] alternative to dsndynamic.com?

2014-11-24 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi, It seems dsndynamic.com bit the dust this weekend of the 23 of November. Is there an alternative of a free dsn server? Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://li

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-11-24 Thread Marty
On 11/24/2014 02:14 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: Le dimanche, 23 novembre 2014, 18.09:58 Marty a écrit : Did I miss something? Yes. Option 1: init policy stands *won by default* [1] Option 2: change init policy *LOST* Option 3: ask nicely to follow init policy *lost* Option 4: policy stan

Re: EXT4-fr error, ext4_find_entry: reading directory...

2014-11-24 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 01:17:29PM +0100, linuxmasterj...@free.fr wrote: > Hi, > > Since a couple of days, I have a bunch of "EXT4-fr error device > ... ext4_find_entry: reading directory" errors. Sounds like stuff in the kernel log? > For me, that's only a disk issue, I booted on a s

EXT4-fr error, ext4_find_entry: reading directory...

2014-11-24 Thread linuxmasterjedi
Hi, Since a couple of days, I have a bunch of "EXT4-fr error device ... ext4_find_entry: reading directory" errors. For me, that's only a disk issue, I booted on a sysresccd and did a e2fsck. Everything was OK. Then, I rebooted and I still had those errors. I bought another hard drive and

Re: Jessie B2 Installer Not booting in Macbook Air

2014-11-24 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 09:17:09PM -0700, john.tiger wrote: > Have followed both guided partitioning as well as trying manual partitions > with efi boot as first partition. Install works fine but after completion > does not boot (get ? folder image) - tried to boot into rescue mode but > target

Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
Thanks for the replies. On 24/11/14 05:12, Marc Shapiro wrote: > On 11/23/2014 12:23 AM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> Briefly as it's been 40 degrees Celsius here and I've been outside >> working all day (almost beer o'clock) >> >> On 23/11/14 18:27, Marc Shapiro wrote: >>> On 11/22/2014 04:09 PM, Sco

Re: How to mount an iPod Touch

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 24/11/14 11:36, Marc Shapiro wrote: > ERROR: Pairing with device ea1f2a0800d76f91f9bc0d50d6620151d249e6a9 > failed with unhandled error code -3 That's a plist error. What is the output of "idevicepair -d pair" (you may need to paste the output to paste.debian.net and provide a link to it in you

Re: ntpd confusion

2014-11-24 Thread mad
Am 24.11.2014 um 06:13 schrieb Chen Wei: > On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 09:57:50PM +0100, mad wrote: >> # ntpq -p >> remote refidst t when poll reach delay offset jitter >> >> fritz.box X.Y.Z.A 3 u-

Re: Headless server just got suspended by updating systemd

2014-11-24 Thread Joel Rees
2014/11/24 17:18 "Jonathan Dowland" : > > On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 02:29:28PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > > I don't mind having yet another reason for telling the developers they > > should have made the systemd based debian a parallel internal fork > > with an independent release schedule. > > > > Bu

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 08:16:29AM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: systemd supports sysvinit init scripts (that have the LSB headers which are already mandatory in wheezy) just fine. Not doing so would be a bug, of course. I have initscripts without LSB headers working just fine. There are

Re: Headless server just got suspended by updating systemd

2014-11-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 02:29:28PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > I don't mind having yet another reason for telling the developers they > should have made the systemd based debian a parallel internal fork > with an independent release schedule. > > But since they chose not to, this kind of bug is just

Re: Headless server just got suspended by updating systemd

2014-11-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 08:58:46PM -0800, Matt Ventura wrote: > I think the bug here IMO is that a system simply shouldn't *do* > things in general without me telling it to. If I close the lid of my > laptop, unless I have told it to suspend when I do so, then it > shouldn't suspend. I should be te

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 24/11/14 13:20, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 11/23/2014 8:42 PM, Ric Moore wrote: >> On 11/23/2014 12:17 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> That is the huge majority of Debian users. >>> Some will get a rude surprise when they upgrade and things don't work as >>> expected. Apropos of what? That "surpris

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 09:20:52PM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > What about all of those people with custom software running which relies > on sysv init for starting? There are a lot of those systems out there - > and every one of them will need work to conform to systemd. Some may well work with

Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.

2014-11-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 06:20:42PM -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > This isn't only about patches to Debian packages. This is also about > custom code many people have installed and set up to work with sysv > init. These will fail with systemd, These *might* fail with systemd. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

i915 disable framebuffer, not X

2014-11-24 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Hello, I have laptop with intel graphics chipset, and I would like to prevent it from using framebuffer, while allow X intel driver. I'm using wheezy+backports, kernel 3.16.5 (linux-image-3.16-0.bpo.3-686-pae) When I disabled mode switching by kernel option i915.modeset=0 or nomodeset, framebuf